Mickeyboof
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I beg anyone to never pay for these “services.”
MaxPass was the same as fastpass, the only difference was the convenience of booking them from your phone, instead of walking to the attraction itself. Completely digital.
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Disney Genie/Genie+ On Their Way to Anaheim
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I beg anyone to never pay for these “services.”
MaxPass was the same as fastpass, the only difference was the convenience of booking them from your phone, instead of walking to the attraction itself. Completely digital.
smooch
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I know people say this a lot but I haven't said it much in the past personally, but if they charge $50 for RotR I might move on from visiting Disney (I rarely went anyways, once every other year or so) for the most part. I want to experience RotR because I love Star Wars and Disney theme parks and have heard how impressive it is, I don't want to spend anywhere close to $50 to ride ONE RIDE on top of the ticket price to enter the park. And if I wanna do anything else Star Wars related I have to spend $100-200 on experiences, a ton on food or drinks to experience the cantina, etc. If this is how their new lands run, and they're changing systems across the park to include things like paying to ride a ride after you already paid hundreds for a ticket to get in then I can't keep supporting Disney while they diminish the enjoyment of the park-going experience at the expense of making a ton of extra money, it's a lose-lose for the consumer. This is just modern businesses in general I admit, it's not a Disney specific practice / way of operating, and I hate it all to pad shareholders pockets.
That and MAXpass cost and fastpass was free.
Stevek
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Correct. All fastpasses will be digital based. It really depends on how many of these passes they allocate each day but I'd guess that standby lines will be long.
EPCOTCenterLover
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This move is pure greed and the continuation of Disney creating an elitist caste system for its guests. BOO, Disney, BOO!
Mickeyboof
Well-Known Member
This move is boring and predicable. I prefer to keep my phone far away from Disneyland. Once food ordering returns as normal, I’m going to keep on with that and ignore this convoluted Genie system.
britain
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I've read the official description a few times now, and I'm STILL not clear about the difference between "regular" Genie+ Lightning Lane and "premium" Genie+ Lightning Lane.
If you're going to have three tiers, just use three names. Not just a nuanced difference between #2 and #3 being "when available" and "schedule yourself".
If you're going to have three tiers, just use three names. Not just a nuanced difference between #2 and #3 being "when available" and "schedule yourself".
waltography
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I was gonna buy a Magic Key the day the passes dropped, but now I'm going to wait until I see how Lightning Lane affects park wait patterns. Too many confounding variables right now.
On the upside, there's more dislikes than likes on the announcement video so it's clear even regulars are mad.
On the upside, there's more dislikes than likes on the announcement video so it's clear even regulars are mad.
SSH
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especially feel for the MANY guests for whom English is not their first language. Not sure about DLR, but so many WDW guests do not speak or understand English too well. Something (or many things) are bound to get lost in the translation - along with their sanity and patience.
Mickeyboof
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it’s absolutely absurd and ridiculous. I don’t understand how this system is going to be explained to guests who aren’t already familiar with the particulars of Disney theme parks.
All of this will be built into the existing Disneyland App, I believe.
Genie - Free “concierge” planning algorithm. I suspect it will attempt to push people to various experiences as a way of AI crowd control. People don’t need to follow it’s advice, however. It is merely suggestion and does NOT grant access to any experiences or attractions.
Genie+ $20 - Free “concierge” planning algorithm PLUS the ability to digitally reserve Lightning Lane return times to LOWER TIER attractions. This is an echo of MaxPass, however this time you can only hold ONE Lightning Lane pass at a time. Photo pass is included for that day.
Individual Experiences Lightning Lane - This is completely separate from Genie and Genie+. You can pay for individual experiences (UP TO TWO PER DAY) for top tier attractions like Radiator Racers or Rise of the Resistance. Prices will be dynamically priced.
Virtual Queue / Boarding Groups - Also completely separate from Genie and Lightning Lane. Will be limited, and possibly ONLY available to join once per day? We’ll see.
SoCalDisneyLover
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Prediction:
1. Indiana Jones
2. Splash Mountain
3. Big Thunder Mountain
4. Millennium Falcon
5. Roger Rabbit
6. Matterhorn
7. Space Mountain
8. Buzz Lightyear
9. Guardians
10. Web Slingers
11. CA Screamin'
12. Toy Story Midway Mania
13. Mickey's Sky School
14. Grizzly Peak
15. Soarin'
???? - Haunted Mansion Holiday, Small World Holiday, Star Tours.
1. Indiana Jones
2. Splash Mountain
3. Big Thunder Mountain
4. Millennium Falcon
5. Roger Rabbit
6. Matterhorn
7. Space Mountain
8. Buzz Lightyear
9. Guardians
10. Web Slingers
11. CA Screamin'
12. Toy Story Midway Mania
13. Mickey's Sky School
14. Grizzly Peak
15. Soarin'
???? - Haunted Mansion Holiday, Small World Holiday, Star Tours.
britain
Well-Known Member
Yes it's not INCLUDED with Genie+, but doesn't the transaction happen WITHIN Genie+ ?
Ugh... I'm not going to the parks for awhile now. Ghibli, take me away...
Mickeyboof
Well-Known Member
I don’t believe it does- the verbiage on the the website makes it seem isolated. But we’ll see! I wouldn’t be surprised, seeing as you have to pay for Disney+ to pay for Disney+ Premier Acess.
BuzzedPotatoHead89
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It’s not really supposed to be easily understood. It’s like the penny slot machines in Vegas that pay out vastly more the more $$ you put in.
The goal is to bilk the guests into “throwing more money at the problem” to make it easier; hence more upselling. Make the process unnecessarily cumbersome and hope the consumers give up and eat the cost.
It’s all about the transition in the business model to increasing per guest spending over increasing guest satisfaction.