from Drudge... the film is making its debut in the Cannes film festival... the article is from when they first announced its funding...
http://www.drudgereport.com/mdisney.htm
http://www.drudgereport.com/mdisney.htm
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Disney Funds Michael Moore documentary bashing President Bush...
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Testtrack321
Well-Known Member
Get over it. The same freedome you have to say you don't like it he has to say negative things against Bush. But what I love is that those who bashed Clinton for years and years all of a sudden think that bashing the president is some god awful thing only terrorists and people who hate the US do.
H Y P R O C R I T
H Y P R O C R I T
I didn't say anything about his RIGHT to say or do ANYTHING... I was simply posting an article that may be of interest to some people... Michael Moore can say and do anything he likes... I don't like what he says or does, but I will strongly defend his right to do it...
The article is about Disney funding the project... don't get your shorts in a twist.... It wasn't my intention to start some political debate about the differences between the Clinton and the Bush administration...
The article is about Disney funding the project... don't get your shorts in a twist.... It wasn't my intention to start some political debate about the differences between the Clinton and the Bush administration...
To be so "anti-corporation", Michael Moore, sure takes advantage of them when it benefits him. Such as Harper Collins publishing his books, Disney/Miramax funding his new project, and MGM distributing is movies.
If he hates large corporations so much, then he needs to stop being hypocritical and start funding them himself.
Jason
If he hates large corporations so much, then he needs to stop being hypocritical and start funding them himself.
Jason
lebernadin
New Member
1) This thread will most likely be closed because the mods don't want political debates on these boards, and i agree.
2) Take a look at the amounts of money that the WDC gives to Republicans versus Democrats, like most corporations, its a 3-to-1 split in favor of the Republicans.
3) Matt Drudge is the "Jim Hill" of politics, although this analogy only has merit on a board like this.
He's a Republican loyalist, his seesaw doesn't balance.
4) Cobra, my advice would be to quit while you're behind by a little. If you would have bothered to rent any of his films or read any of his books prior to posting that drool you would realize he isn't "anti-corporation" in the broad sense that you'd love to paint him as ,from your Republican talking points.
He brings to light the darker sides of globalization and free trade and how it affects American workers. He grew up in Flint, MI. He doesn't live a lavish lifestyle with the moneys taken in from his books/films. He donates far more to charity than the CEO's of the corporations he focuses on, despite not being anywhere near their tax bracket.
5) The Weinsteins are about the $$$. They know that this film is going to be bigger than the Oscar'd "Bowling For Columbine" due to its timing and content. So they made the best pitch, knowing it will gross a ton vis a vis most documentaries. If it wasn't Miramax, it would have been another studio.
2) Take a look at the amounts of money that the WDC gives to Republicans versus Democrats, like most corporations, its a 3-to-1 split in favor of the Republicans.
3) Matt Drudge is the "Jim Hill" of politics, although this analogy only has merit on a board like this.
He's a Republican loyalist, his seesaw doesn't balance.
4) Cobra, my advice would be to quit while you're behind by a little. If you would have bothered to rent any of his films or read any of his books prior to posting that drool you would realize he isn't "anti-corporation" in the broad sense that you'd love to paint him as ,from your Republican talking points.
He brings to light the darker sides of globalization and free trade and how it affects American workers. He grew up in Flint, MI. He doesn't live a lavish lifestyle with the moneys taken in from his books/films. He donates far more to charity than the CEO's of the corporations he focuses on, despite not being anywhere near their tax bracket.
5) The Weinsteins are about the $$$. They know that this film is going to be bigger than the Oscar'd "Bowling For Columbine" due to its timing and content. So they made the best pitch, knowing it will gross a ton vis a vis most documentaries. If it wasn't Miramax, it would have been another studio.
Firstly, I have seen his movies and I still don't agree with him. Secondly, if he is so anti-globalization and is against outsourcing, then why is his website designed by a Canadian company, and hosted by another Canadian company.
I don't agree with Mr. Moore...I do however believe that because he lives in the greatest country in the world, he has every right to believe what he wishes and say whatever he wants.
That is all I will say on the subject, because like you, I agree that politcal viewpoints have no place on this forum.
Now, back to your regularly scheduled program!
Jason
I don't agree with Mr. Moore...I do however believe that because he lives in the greatest country in the world, he has every right to believe what he wishes and say whatever he wants.
That is all I will say on the subject, because like you, I agree that politcal viewpoints have no place on this forum.
Now, back to your regularly scheduled program!
Jason
ACE
New Member
Hey Missy,
Don't let these folks get to you. Some folks are just looking for a reason to start an argument. The article you posted is DISNEY related and you did not express your political views. You simply posted an article, so if others don't like it then they can "get over it".
Take care,
:wave: ACE
Don't let these folks get to you. Some folks are just looking for a reason to start an argument. The article you posted is DISNEY related and you did not express your political views. You simply posted an article, so if others don't like it then they can "get over it".
Take care,
:wave: ACE
DDuckFan130
Well-Known Member
I think the thumbs down smiley thingy or whatever was what did it :lol: because like ACE said, missy has only put up a Disney-related article without giving any political views (well, except for the thumbs down). I don't see anything wrong with what you posted though :wave:
thanks guys...
I honestly wasn't trying to start some big debate (although I *do* love a good debate...) ... I just thought it was an interesting article, because Michael Moore is so polarizing...
everyone has an opinion of him one way or the other... I thought it was interesting that Disney would get involved with such a polarizing figure, especially with all the other stuff they have going on!
I honestly wasn't trying to start some big debate (although I *do* love a good debate...) ... I just thought it was an interesting article, because Michael Moore is so polarizing...
everyone has an opinion of him one way or the other... I thought it was interesting that Disney would get involved with such a polarizing figure, especially with all the other stuff they have going on!
lebernadin
New Member
Yes, the thumbs down symbol is the poster's obvious acknowledgement of where they stand on the subject. But the more blatent one is the source of the "article."
Drudge is a partisan muckraker who is far more polarizing than Michael Moore has ever been. Moore was just as critical in his prior films/books of the previous administration. But that fact is lost on people of Drudge's breed.
So don't give me the "they just posted a link guys" argument. If i "just posted a link" to a neo-Nazi hate-spreaders site that had an article with re to Disney i wouldn't expect to be immune to anyone who thought i shared the same mindset of those who put together the content of such a site.
An article from an actual news source would be closer to non-partisan for a start. But its still revealing political leanings since its not going to ruffle the feathers of those who are eagerly awaiting this film, while those who wish it was never made are the ones who feel its newsworthy as to who is backing it, ie witchhunt, boycott etc.
Drudge is a partisan muckraker who is far more polarizing than Michael Moore has ever been. Moore was just as critical in his prior films/books of the previous administration. But that fact is lost on people of Drudge's breed.
So don't give me the "they just posted a link guys" argument. If i "just posted a link" to a neo-Nazi hate-spreaders site that had an article with re to Disney i wouldn't expect to be immune to anyone who thought i shared the same mindset of those who put together the content of such a site.
An article from an actual news source would be closer to non-partisan for a start. But its still revealing political leanings since its not going to ruffle the feathers of those who are eagerly awaiting this film, while those who wish it was never made are the ones who feel its newsworthy as to who is backing it, ie witchhunt, boycott etc.
wdwmaniac
Member
the the problem I see with is it is not that if ones rep. or dem. but Disney is taking on a project like this. I feel that it takes away from the Disney name. Even if Miramax produces maybe we should put some money towards family films or withhold more money from Miramax ( they haven't been a bright spot in disney's world they let the Lord of the Rings go.)
lebernadin
New Member
:Yawn:
adding to DMC's tally....
journalism.org
AFP
accuracy.org
Inter Press
BBC
to name a few...
We'll wait while you go google these to figure out what they are.
not Ace
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Blair
New Member
Well funny you should mention that:
http://www.salon.com/june97/media/media970606.html
While I have no problem with people espousing interesting political views like socialism, libertarianism, liberals or conservatives, many people have issues with Michael Moore because he makes HUGE factual errors in order to propagandize whatever his current issue is.
So while I may not be voting for Bush (Kerry in 04) I will not endorse someone like Michael Moore who makes a profit off of tricking viewers into believing false facts to sell his political brand of snake oil.
For more in depth: http://www.mooreexposed.com/
I wish Disney had considered the ethics of this decision far more carefully before chasing the quick buck on a surefire controversy
Testtrack321
Well-Known Member
On behalf of all my internet personas and myself, I wish to appoligize to Missy. Sorry I went off. It just wasn't intended just for you. Sorry.
Shaman
Well-Known Member
Umm...whats the point of this thread exactly??
Personally, if the title to the thread weren't politcal enough, the site linked...SURE IS....
I'm not going to comment on this issue...cause well most of you know which way I'm going to go in this debate...
So...see ya at the box office...:wave:
(you know I keep thinking that a political debate forum wouldn't be bad on magic...it would sure get politics out of the other forums on here; although, the threads wouldn't last very long..ohh well)
Personally, if the title to the thread weren't politcal enough, the site linked...SURE IS....
I'm not going to comment on this issue...cause well most of you know which way I'm going to go in this debate...
So...see ya at the box office...:wave:
(you know I keep thinking that a political debate forum wouldn't be bad on magic...it would sure get politics out of the other forums on here; although, the threads wouldn't last very long..ohh well)
MouseMadness
Well-Known Member
Originally posted by objr
(you know I keep thinking that a political debate forum wouldn't be bad on magic...it would sure get politics out of the other forums on here; although, the threads wouldn't last very long..ohh well)
The "No name calling" rule automatically makes "no discussion of politics" a rule. :lol:
ACE
New Member
The laughing smiley meant I was making a joke more or less, you know like when folks make crooked lawyer jokes. We know there are good lawyers out there but we still like the jokes. I apologize if you and DMC-12 didn't pick up on that.
Kinda like I'm assuming you were making a joke with the google remark since I know you really don't have any reason to insult me.
But I guess only you know what you meant by that remark.
Take care,
:wave: ACE
P.S. Why can't we just read the article that someone post without commenting one way or the other if it's a political type article(Disney related). I personally don't mind reading other points of view but I agree there's no need to argue on a Disney board especially about politics.
Shaman
Well-Known Member
Originally posted by MouseMadness
The "No name calling" rule automatically makes "no discussion of politics" a rule. :lol:
You know...you're right...never thought of it that way....oh well...I guess that was my love of politics and debate speaking more than reason...haha
:wave: