RandomPrincess
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I agree there are creeps EVERYWHERE and truthfully your child is more likely to be preyed on by someone they know well not a theme park employee they don't know.
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Disney emplyees arrested in under age sex stings
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wdwgreek
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A time article from last year says up to 4% percent of the US population could have pedophilic tendencies, so are they out there in the ranks of the cast members, statistically yes, as they are in the ranks of fellow church goers, shoppers, or classmates. We have to be vigilant and educated our children about what to look out for, what we cannot do is tar and feather the rest of the cast members.
raven
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300,000 employees?!!!! WDW has an estimate of 70,000 CMs.
I'm definately not defending any of the theme parks here. But given the number of employees arrested, over a span of 8 years, this is a very small amount of people. That same percentage can be applied to any corporation or job across this country.
We really don't know who is and who isn't a child preditor until they are caught, if they are caught. They are probably everywhere and we just don't know it. So I feel this story is using the employment-that-caters-to-children factor to bring negative attention to these parks when in fact there are most likely child preditors near them at this very moment but they refuse to believe it. Check out "In A Town This Size" on Netflix.
We all know that Disney, Univeral and Sea World don't just cater to children but to families of all ages. And there are thousands of jobs within these companies that don't have any contact with guests at all.
tahqa
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That number takes into account 'churn'. That's how many employees Disney has had since 2006. I think currently they are somewhere around 67k.
Obi
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statistically speaking a child would be sexually abused by someone the child knows, and trusts, versus a stranger. however, the #'s given are the ones that have been caught. there are many out there that haven't.
society still is in a phase of not wanting these stories to get out there. child sexual abuse is still very taboo and generally speaking it's still hush hush. it's about time that the light got shown on these dark areas. doesn't matter if it's disney or anyplace else. these stories need to be out there. society needs to make this a high priority instead of keeping it quiet.. that's how the abusers/predators continue to thrive. they thrive on people wanting to keep this quiet.
in 2013 there is an estimated 155,000,000 males in the united states. it is also estimated that 1 out of every 6 males are sexually abused before they are 18 years of age. that averages about 25 million males have been sexually abused in the US. now, it's also known that predators/abusers tend to have multiple victims. so, i'm going to ballpark it low and say that there is, at least, 500,000 abusers/predators in the US. wouldn't you agree that is a staggering # just in the US alone to want to bring this subject to light to help put an end to child sexual abuse?
society still is in a phase of not wanting these stories to get out there. child sexual abuse is still very taboo and generally speaking it's still hush hush. it's about time that the light got shown on these dark areas. doesn't matter if it's disney or anyplace else. these stories need to be out there. society needs to make this a high priority instead of keeping it quiet.. that's how the abusers/predators continue to thrive. they thrive on people wanting to keep this quiet.
in 2013 there is an estimated 155,000,000 males in the united states. it is also estimated that 1 out of every 6 males are sexually abused before they are 18 years of age. that averages about 25 million males have been sexually abused in the US. now, it's also known that predators/abusers tend to have multiple victims. so, i'm going to ballpark it low and say that there is, at least, 500,000 abusers/predators in the US. wouldn't you agree that is a staggering # just in the US alone to want to bring this subject to light to help put an end to child sexual abuse?
DGRYAN1977
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A Disney employee was involved therefore it involves Disney. They represent the park. Just like when an athelete does something wrong it reflects negatively on the players team.
Im sure there is a good chance this person was up to some sort of no good while at work.
TRONorail12
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What Raven said is absolutely true, you DO NOT KNOW who is a child predator until they've been caught and put on record. The entire story is based on things that took place outside of the workplace. These people broke the law, therefore I have no sympathy for them. However, I did not agree with the end of the story about how legislation is trying to be introduced to allow lie-detectors to be used for employment screening.
I think there is a fine line between what you do in your personal life and what you do at work. If you break the rules at work, you get fired. If you break the law in your personal life, you go to jail. However, you still have a right to a private life separate from that of your workplace. Introducing lie-detectors into the hiring process of employees opens up a whole new can of worms for not just theme parks, but every private employer in the country. I think a lot of people's lives would dramatically change if they were given a lie-detector test and asked about things that have no bearing on how they would perform their job within the company.
dgp602
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I agree. Unfortunately, the law of averages dictate that a certain percentage will be "bad apples". And that goes with doctors, nurses, teachers, cops, politicians, etc....
WDWDad13
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maybe so... but that doesn't put Disney at any sort of responsibility or at blame for anything
that's like saying this person lived in Florida and used a MacBook, so all who live in Florida and use MacBooks are involved
unfortunately this stuff happens...(it's sad)... but because these people worked for theme parks, specifically Disney is why it is making big headlines
I would venture a guess that more crimes like this have been committed by pastors or in a church type setting... but that doesn't mean people will stop going to church or put "churches" at any fault ya know
point being... because the word Disney came up... it is making big headlines... but regardless, this stuff (the crime) makes me sick
yellowstone7123
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That sounds pretty strange. I would get up and leave as well.
Obi
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seascape is more correct than you realize or care to accept. I can give you true horror stories of what I, and many of my male survivor friends, have gone through that would make most people vomit and how much pure evil does exist in this world and how prevalent it is. Even right under your own nose.
I'm very passionate about this topic, and also educated on it, because I have survived through that hell.
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PhotoDave219
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I never strayed from the script.
cw1982
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I don't mean any disrespect, but how do you know what any other person in the situation Dave was describing might have been thinking? I can certainly see that your scenario is just as plausible as what Dave was implying, but I can tell you from experience that there are certainly several possibilities there, and not all of them are as innocent as what you describe. I'm 31 years old, but I am constantly told that I look much younger (no joke... a janitor who did not know me at my last job back in May yelled at me because she thought I was a student in an unauthorized area before school one day... and I constantly had kids in the hallway who didn't know me who tried to talk to me like I was one of their peers because they didn't know who I was), and I have certainly felt very uncomfortable before when certain people have given me stare downs. In fact, there used to be an older man who would frequent the gym where I go, and he used to make a point to approach me every time he saw me and inform me that I was "the prettiest one in there." It got to the point where I would avoid whatever area of the gym he was in so that I could avoid his comments and the creepy looks. I wasn't the only one he did that to, either. I have friends who wouldn't go in the gym at all if they saw his car in the parking lot.
I'm not trying to say that I doubt that you, or even most, old men are thinking more innocent thoughts when they watch kids like that, but there are definitely those out there who appear to cross the line into creepy, so I can definitely see why it would be easy to think that some of those men he was talking about were thinking less than pure thoughts.
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Ranch Dressing
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Does anyone know the percentages of child predators working in the automotive industry? Retail? Food service? Public schools?
I think while trying to make a point in the nature of over dramatic journalism you might have the same or even higher percentages within other sectors of employment. It won't bring in the ratings like Disney of course, but what makes the world go around?
I think while trying to make a point in the nature of over dramatic journalism you might have the same or even higher percentages within other sectors of employment. It won't bring in the ratings like Disney of course, but what makes the world go around?
RandomPrincess
Keep Moving Forward
Here are the USA statistics for children from RAINN - note only 7% of the children were abused by strangers. Also in another stat (97% of abusers/rapists will never see jail time - most because no on reports them. Look at the family in the article no one wants to believe their father was trying to have sex with a 15 year old. They would rather believe he was trying to "help the girl".
https://www.rainn.org/get-information/statistics/sexual-assault-victims
15% of sexual assault and rape victims are under age 12.3
https://www.rainn.org/get-information/statistics/sexual-assault-victims
15% of sexual assault and rape victims are under age 12.3
- 29% are age 12-17.
- 44% are under age 18.3
- 80% are under age 30.3
- 12-34 are the highest risk years.
- Girls ages 16-19 are 4 times more likely than the general population to be victims of rape, attempted rape, or sexual assault.
- 3% of boys grades 5-8 and 5% of boys in grades 9-12 said they had been sexually abused.
- Of these, 75% were girls.
- Nearly 30% of child victims were between the age of 4 and 7.
- 34.2% of attackers were family members.
- 58.7% were acquaintances.
- Only 7% of the perpetrators were strangers to the victim.
Tonka's Skipper
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I don't believe so........if you take 70,000 X .05% that is 3,500 not 35.
I believe I am correct.
BTW..........it has been reported that the actual number of CM over the 8 years is 300,000 so the % is more like .0001%
AKK
Tonka's Skipper
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I am not sure I agree with the amount of people, but I do totally agree if you check the online lists you will be amazed who is listed and where they are.
Creepy and scary!
AKK
cw1982
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But by making it a percent, that means you have to move the decimal two places to the right (hence the multiplying by 100).