WDW Monorail
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And I think it looks pretty ugly. I can tolerate it though.
It would be a mistake to stray from the solid white with a single colored stripe. It is much simpler and looks generally good anywhere on the beam.
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And I think it looks pretty ugly. I can tolerate it though.
It would be a mistake to stray from the solid white with a single colored stripe. It is much simpler and looks generally good anywhere on the beam.
Tigerace81
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Since we're talking about colors, How about Royal Blue? 
That would look great, then just get Wall, Cousins, and Orton somewhere on it haha.
That would look great, then just get Wall, Cousins, and Orton somewhere on it haha.
Timon
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The Mark VI is the only Disney monorail model designed and built by a rail transportation company. One would expect that kind of experience would let them last longer. The some Hitachi monorails in Japan have lasted much longer than 20 years. The Mark VI's could go through a rebuild/rehab and update all the technology while still looking the same. Lots of other mass transit companies update their rolling stock this way. As for a new design from scratch I would think that's unlikely for the next 10 to 15 years.
Although....
Although....
TimNRA757
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First, monorail Tron is Coral.
Now we also have to remember the ones Disneyland has are rebuilds of the chasis stripped down. The ones we have now serve their purpsose, the only thing that you could really ask for is for the doors to be at the level of the station but then they won't be flush with the exterior when closed so I like it as it is personally.
And speaking as a purist, I would much rather see Pink and Purple be back once again but that's just me...
Now we also have to remember the ones Disneyland has are rebuilds of the chasis stripped down. The ones we have now serve their purpsose, the only thing that you could really ask for is for the doors to be at the level of the station but then they won't be flush with the exterior when closed so I like it as it is personally.
And speaking as a purist, I would much rather see Pink and Purple be back once again but that's just me...
WDITrent
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I think so too, actually. DLR's monorails are designed that way to fit into Tomorrowland, while the WDW monorail never enters even the Magic Kingdom. It does, however, enter Epcot, and the design now is perfect for the park. Not to mention it also complements the Contemporary very well.
Mr.EPCOT
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I don't think that is quite correct. The Mark VI was built by Bombardier, but the design was mostly Disney. It was, after all, a continuation of the Mark IV line.
That's a cool picture, but it needs a better stripe and the correct nose shape.
I appreciate the touch of the original logo "Florida Project" font along the skirt!
Mr.EPCOT
Active Member
If I understand how the Las Vegas system works correctly, there would need to be major changes to our stations in the forms of the platform doors they use. I could be completely wrong about that, though.
Tigerace81
New Member
The Mark VI is the only Disney monorail model designed and built by a rail transportation company. One would expect that kind of experience would let them last longer. The some Hitachi monorails in Japan have lasted much longer than 20 years. The Mark VI's could go through a rebuild/rehab and update all the technology while still looking the same. Lots of other mass transit companies update their rolling stock this way. As for a new design from scratch I would think that's unlikely for the next 10 to 15 years.
Although....
Thats pretty nice, I would love to see that at Disney. Maybe with a full strip around it but that fade out stripe is pretty nice to.
Timon
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As I understand it Disney sold the monorail Mark IV patents to Bombardier who now markets a version of the Mark VI called the MVI (they are a creative bunch). I had heard there are significant mechanical changes between the the Mark IV and VI and that the MVI is even more advanced. They obvious change is that the trains are entirely automated and have no pilots.
The reason the station floors and the car floors are not level at WDW is because the doors drop down and then up to seal flush with the body. The MVI Las Vegas doors stick out and while they aren't as cool as the Mark VI they have level floors.
Bombardier also has a bigger monorail on the drawing boards which allows walking between cars like Hitachi monorails. Unfortunately these would be wider and would never fit thru the WDW stations and may require a wider beam.
Tigerace81
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Well I dont see why they cant modify the existing trains to allow for a walk through.
Timon
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As you can see there isn't any room in the currently sized MVI or Mark VI trains. In the photo you can see the motor and drive equipment hang on the left of the tire. When attached to another car, the motor for it's tire hangs on the right filling all the space.
The current MVI design seats five people across, the proposed wide body design seats 6 people (and is longer,too) thereby creating the space needed to pass between trains. I'm guessing there is also some drive train redesign, too.
Having pass thru cars can even out crowds if too many people pile into one car. LVM cars have no dividing bench like the WDW Mark VI and only one set of doors on each side which encourages more standing.
Tigerace81
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Ah I didnt notice the walkway at the joint. I thought you was referring to the aisle in the center of the trains.
Timon
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True the Mark VI's could have the center bench removed or modified to allow walking the length of the car like the LVM MVI monorails.
I'm talking about being able to walk car to car like the Haitachi monorails in Japan.
Tigerace81
New Member
That would be a nice little feature. I dont beleive the beams would need to be larger, but the stations would obviously need to be. Those trains would definitely help during peak months.
Tigerace81
New Member
Just noticed this during a look through of the back lot of MK, but did the monorail get new beams?
http://www.bing.com/maps/?v=2&cp=nr3r3p861krn&scene=55452641&lvl=2&sty=b&where1=Magic Kingdom
The transfer beams look new. Thought that was interesting
http://www.bing.com/maps/?v=2&cp=nr3r3p861krn&scene=55452641&lvl=2&sty=b&where1=Magic Kingdom
The transfer beams look new. Thought that was interesting
s8film40
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If you are talking about the different color of the switch beams this is because the beams are steel not concrete and are painted white.
Tigerace81
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That would make sense. Just from the top down view it looks like fresh concrete.
Also I would assume this bombardier monorail is the one Timon was reffering to:
http://www.bombardier.com/en/transp...es/automated-monorails?docID=0901260d8000a7e4
The beam seems to be the same width as the current ones. But does look slightly wider than the current Mark VI's
Also I would assume this bombardier monorail is the one Timon was reffering to:
http://www.bombardier.com/en/transp...es/automated-monorails?docID=0901260d8000a7e4
The beam seems to be the same width as the current ones. But does look slightly wider than the current Mark VI's
s8film40
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Yes it is, however I didn't realize they had changed the name. It appears to now be called "INNOVIA" it used to be called "MVI", and yes this monorail can be configured in the Las Vegas style or Walkthrough Seattle style.