Disney considering VIP and other add-on options to their tickets....

fosse76

Well-Known Member
I was referring to access to VIP fastpasses. Were they to become reality they will be well publicized and available to anyone willing to purchase them--just like hard ticket party tickets. Again, day guests would not be deprived of anything by others who are willing to pay get other perks.

Most defintiely they will be advertising them. You'll see signage in the queues (or near the entrances to the attractions at the very least). But you seem to be missing the point. Guests who choose not to purchase are being negatively affected with longer waits. This is especially true if the system works like Express Pass at Universal. Instead of virtually standing in line, they are simply cutting in line.

In my opinion (and that's all any if us can go by) I think that in the somewhat near future we will see VIP FP's and some of the "all inclusive" options. I think the least likely of all of the options is the holiday ticket. But then again what do any of us know?

I agree that some of these options seem like real possibilities. And I agree that charging more for holidays is unlikely. As I stated, they would be eliminating a substantial portion of their guests, who might pick that day to visit Universal or Sea World.
 

Susan Savia

Well-Known Member
So if someone has a half day ticket which expires at 3:00pm, who's to know they actually left the park then or stayed on enjoying the day???

If a lot of folks did buy the Fast Pass unlimited use option, wouldn't that clog up the Fast Pass idea, making it not so 'fast'?
 

the-reason14

Well-Known Member
So if someone has a half day ticket which expires at 3:00pm, who's to know they actually left the park then or stayed on enjoying the day???

If a lot of folks did buy the Fast Pass unlimited use option, wouldn't that clog up the Fast Pass idea, making it not so 'fast'?


Thats what I'm thinking. I know it's just "blue sky" but I think these should be really thought out before and it they're implemented.
 

CaptainWinter

Active Member
So if someone has a half day ticket which expires at 3:00pm, who's to know they actually left the park then or stayed on enjoying the day???

That's been discussed earlier in this thread. There have been various speculations about this, but the consensus seems to be that you could stay in the park as a non-rider after 3. No one knows for sure.

If a lot of folks did buy the Fast Pass unlimited use option, wouldn't that clog up the Fast Pass idea, making it not so 'fast'?

Hotly debated. Lots of back-and-forth on both sides of this question. See above.
 

thewhitequeen

New Member
This board doesn't mirror the opinions of the public at large. And, as I've mentioned in other posts in this thread, Disney is currently underserving a very lucrative market. They've realized it and are likely going to aggressively pursue it. It's extremely unlikely that the pursuit of this market is going to noticeably impact their other markets, if at all.

In fact, what Disney is probably realizing is that they've catered too extensively to those of modest means and it's hurting them with their premium, and more potentially lucrative, customers. Time to turn that Walmart-ization trend around.

Bingo. I don't have an issue with this either because quite frankly, life isn't fair. If people want to drop 10k on a few days at the GF, they can go ahead - it's not my money. I would enjoy sitting in a restaurant without tons of free diners though. :p
 

thewhitequeen

New Member
Doesn't that kinda defeat the purpose? :shrug:

Fastpass is the one thing I think should be left alone. It really isn't a hard system to figure out. Why add another option to make it more confusing for people?


Not if they make everyone pay for the pass. Plus, they could just decrease the amount of passes that the machines push out on a given day.

Personally, I think they are planning on making the off site crowd pay for the passes like Universal does (it only makes sense). I'm not sure how many people stay off site and use the system though.

If I were Disney I would do the following:

1) Make fastpasses available for on-site guests only.
2) Allow off-site guests to pay a premium for the pass.
3) Create some type of VIP fastpass that allows on-site guests to ride the rides all day without having to get many different passes. I'd pay for this.

Sounds easy enough, but I'm not a fastpass expert. :lol:
 

David S.

Member
Not if they make everyone pay for the pass. Plus, they could just decrease the amount of passes that the machines push out on a given day.

Personally, I think they are planning on making the off site crowd pay for the passes like Universal does (it only makes sense). I'm not sure how many people stay off site and use the system though.

If I were Disney I would do the following:

1) Make fastpasses available for on-site guests only.
2) Allow off-site guests to pay a premium for the pass.

Yeah, screw the local Annual Passholders like me who are too "cheap" to stay at a resort because we don't NEED a bloody hotel, right!

I am so sick of the idea that EVERYONE at WDW is a TOURIST!

(my sarcasm isn't directed at you personally - I just hate the idea of YET ANOTHER THING where locals who moved there precisely to be "closer to the Magic" could get left out of the loop and get LESS Magic because they live there.

If Disney took my free Fastpass priveledges away after all these years, and yet they would still be free ONLY for their oh so precious "resort guests", I would seriously consider not renewing my AP! I have not complained once in this thread about the idea of people being allowed to pay for unlimited FPs, but that was under the assumption the system as it is now would still be available to everyone else.

I wish WDW had an Al Lutz type figure for the local APs to rally around! ;)
 

CaptainWinter

Active Member
I got it, Disney's profits were a tad more than 1 billion this last quarter according to forbes on the web, I googled it.

Actually $1.3B. That rate comes out to between $14M - $15M per day. That's for the whole company, of course, not just the parks.

Still that means $109M is within two weeks' profit for them. Yikes.
 

fosse76

Well-Known Member
Yeah, screw the local Annual Passholders like me who are too "cheap" to stay at a resort because we don't NEED a bloody hotel, right!

I am so sick of the idea that EVERYONE at WDW is a TOURIST!

This was my biggest complaint about DCA's Aladdin show. The "front orchestra" section was reserved for guests who purchased vacations through a travel agent. It discriminates against locals who don't need travel agents for obvious reasons, and it discriminates against people who book their own travel.

(my sarcasm isn't directed at you personally - I just hate the idea of YET ANOTHER THING where locals who moved there precisely to be "closer to the Magic" could get left out of the loop and get LESS Magic because they live there.

If Disney took my free Fastpass priveledges away after all these years, and yet they would still be free ONLY for their oh so precious "resort guests", I would seriously consider not renewing my AP! I have not complained once in this thread about the idea of people being allowed to pay for unlimited FPs, but that was under the assumption the system as it is now would still be available to everyone else.

I wish WDW had an Al Lutz type figure for the local APs to rally around! ;)

Charging for the FP DOES adversely affect guests who choose not to pay. And it does give the impression that in order to have a fun day, you need to buy the pass. I certainly felt that way at Universal. While I was good without it at IOA, when I went to Universal Studios I felt that the only way to actually enjoy my day was to buy the express pass.
 

thewhitequeen

New Member
Yeah, screw the local Annual Passholders like me who are too "cheap" to stay at a resort because we don't NEED a bloody hotel, right!

I am so sick of the idea that EVERYONE at WDW is a TOURIST!

(my sarcasm isn't directed at you personally - I just hate the idea of YET ANOTHER THING where locals who moved there precisely to be "closer to the Magic" could get left out of the loop and get LESS Magic because they live there.

If Disney took my free Fastpass priveledges away after all these years, and yet they would still be free ONLY for their oh so precious "resort guests", I would seriously consider not renewing my AP! I have not complained once in this thread about the idea of people being allowed to pay for unlimited FPs, but that was under the assumption the system as it is now would still be available to everyone else.

I wish WDW had an Al Lutz type figure for the local APs to rally around! ;)

I didn't even consider AP holders and I'm not even sure how that would work because I'm sure there are many ap's purchased every year. Hmmmm......This is why I'm not a decision maker at Disney. :lol:

I say screw it all and make everyone wait in line. :lol:
 

the-reason14

Well-Known Member
I know a few times on here a lot of people quote Walt Disney and his philosophy and try to say what he would do. I'm not sure what he would do in this current decade/year/recession or whatever, but i do remember reading that he wanted ALL his guest to be treated as VIP. Meaning every person who walked through the turnstiles at Disneyland were treated equal. In a way, the introduction of fastpass a decade ago somewhat killed this philosophy, as well as a few other things. The only redeeming thing about fastpass is that it was/is free and available for everyone. But imo, all this paying extra sounds pretty good for some, but it kills Walt's philosophy. I understand that things are indeed different, and Disney considering this makes sense. But I know I can't be the only one who would refuse to pay more for something that was once free. Instead of several trips from Texas a year, it would be none. This is just one poster's thoughts. But I know there are a few who may feel similarly.
 

DVCOwner

A Long Time DVC Member
Not everyone was treated equal from the first day the Disneyland opened. For those of us that have been going to years all remember the "E" tickets. The more tickets you purchased the more fun you had. Getting in the gate did not get you on the attactions without a ticket A-E. Money always talks at Disney and always will.
 

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