Disney confirms 'Frozen' makeover coming to Epcot's Norway Pavilion

Kman101

Kman101

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flynnibus said:
Decorum

And challenging what you say is part of the discussion... Not 'and who are you?' Posts.

Common sense says when someone is discussing insider info... 'Who are you' posts aren't going to result in a direct answer. Understand if they are parroting or posting their own info.

Many times you'll learn more by just listening vs challenging. Timing snd tact seem to be lost here
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I don't disagree with you on that.

Thank you for the well explained response.
 
Cesar R M

Cesar R M

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spiritofNorway said:

From what I know theres not going to be any expansion of the building itself.

The Norway Club (conference center) is staying. Its now used as a break area and office for the workers along with the regular management team offices.

The expansion will be done in what used to be the load room and possibly into the North Sea-scene to expand que area, which will be in the old theater. Its sad that they wont use the old theater as a preshow room with a great new movie of Norway before the ride ala the Great Movie Ride.

Norway offered this movie to Disney for free. Disney wouldnt take it unless they got the full rights to it. So Norway offered Disney to get all the raw material from the filming to edit as they wanted, Disney still said no...
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to resume, disney wanted money.
 
MarkTwain

MarkTwain

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lazyboy97o said:
It's not "Disney."
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Even so. If the Norway offered to lend Disney the footage so that they could mix it into a new film as needed, then Disney could take the existing footage and "Disnefy" it as necessary. Inject some unnecessary animation of Olaf jabbering, overlay the footage with the obligatory movie soundtrack, and bam, instant Frozen-themed Norway documentary.

Sometimes I wonder if they just like being difficult :confused:
 
Kman101

Kman101

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Sounds like it. I never understood that either, why the turned it down, then turned around and more or less demanded money. LOL. Disney has to get out of the "corporate sponsor" mind-frame at this point, IMO. It's time to suck it up. Disney doesn't need sponsors. I mean, I get why, it often benefits both parties, and if it does, great, but I feel like they're stuck on that concept and they shouldn't be.
 
Matt_Black

Matt_Black

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Well, heck, why don't they just get rid of commercials on all their networks? They don't need that ad revenue, as they've already got plenty of money!
 
Victor Kelly

Victor Kelly

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Pure an simple for Disney. Corporate greed. But let's be honest, they are a for profit company, and that is how things are and it is understandable they want to maximize profit. But at times, I believe some people's motivations are more than just making money, it is about flat out greed.

Norway has every right to tell Disney to pound sand. Why should Norway do all the work, then Disney come along and fiddle with it?

I have a story about this third party nonsense. When I was doing wedding videos, a couple contacted me, then decided "Uncle Bob" would shoot the video because he would do it for free. Now I am not that expensive I did three locations for a total of $750 because I loved the work. But they went with their family member instead who had a minicam. No sweat, I booked for that weekend anyway a week after they contacted me. But a few weeks after their wedding they contacted me and asked if I would edit the video because they were not happy with it. I refused because I did not take the video, AND because I did not want my name on a shoddy product.

I did another wedding video for a friend, they wanted the original tapes. I refused, because the contract states I never give up originals, period. No photographer does. And again, I did not want someone butchering my work and having it come back on me, whatever their good intentions were.

Now if you were Norway, would you have given this product over so Disney could butcher it up, and potentially give people the wrong idea about your entire country? I am not saying Disney would have done this, but the potential is there.
 
PorterRedkey

PorterRedkey

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MarkTwain said:
Why on earth they would turn down that offer is beyond me. I don't know why they feel they need the rights to a film like that, I can't imagine what else they would plan on doing with it.
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I think it was because Norway had stopped paying for the upkeep of the pavillion. The movie is obviously not up to Disney standards, so why would they go to the trouble of editing a new acceptable film out of the footage that Norway gathered. Once Norway stopped paying for the pavillion, unfortunately Disney felt they should only do the bare minimum as far as upkeep. When Norway wanted to put in a new movie to promote Norway in a better light, Disney said no because Norway lost the right to say what goes into the pavillion when they stopped sponsering the pavillion. It really is that simple.

I know Disney could have refurbished the Norway pavillion and made improvement to the Maelstrom attraction once it lost its sponser, but we all know that is how Disney operates (see Horizons). The sad truth is, if Norway had kept their sponsership of the pavillion, we wouldn't be having this conversation.
 
flynnibus

flynnibus

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PorterRedkey said:
The sad truth is, if Norway had kept their sponsership of the pavillion, we wouldn't be having this conversation.
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... because we saw all those updates while they were a sponsor didn't we??? :rolleyes:

History proves... the only updates that come are with a lump sum change.. not just ongoing sponsorship. They'd have to fund an overhaul PLUS their ongoing sponsorship (see Imagination)
 

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