Disney confirms 'Frozen' makeover coming to Epcot's Norway Pavilion

Mr Anderson

Mr Anderson

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Lee said:
Bingo.
That's EXACTLY how it was pitched, and sold, to the suits.
Pitched by Imagineers who should be unemployed as a result.
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Boy, that sure makes sense. The movie grosses $1.2 billion (with a B) and they pitch the quick, easy, cheap sell?!
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Lee

Lee

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Matt_Black said:
That's like saying it's all on a network to provide TV programs, totally discounting the importance of paid advertisers.
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No, it isn't.
Disney is like HBO, not network TV. You pay a premium price for high quality, commercial-free entertainment.
Networks are free to watch, you just have to put up with the ads.

Who's sponsoring Pirates? Mansion? Splash? Tower? Everest? Peter Pan?

Disney parks run just fine without sponsors.
 
Mike S

Mike S

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Lee said:
No, it isn't.
Disney is like HBO, not network TV. You pay a premium price for high quality, commercial-free entertainment.
Networks are free to watch, you just have to put up with the ads.

Who's sponsoring Pirates? Mansion? Splash? Tower? Everest? Peter Pan?

Disney parks run just fine without sponsors.
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EPCOT Center needed sponsors to be built and Magic Kingdom too right? Now Disney is absolutely big enough to do it on its own.
 
misterID

misterID

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Mike S said:
Makes me wonder if becoming an Imagineer would even be worth it.
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Depending on what projects you're assigned. There's one Imganineer who said there has never been a better time to be an Imagineer ......(if you're working on the Asia parks)

The pitch for Frozen isn't surprising. There have always been Imagineers like that. They don't really care about the park (usually WDW, not DLR) as long as their idea gets realized. Ambition and drive are nice, but when it comes to compromising the integrity of the park, it can be really obnoxious.
 
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lazyboy97o

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misterID said:
Depending on what projects you're assigned. There's one Imganineer who said there has never been a better time to be an Imagineer ......(if you're working on the Asia parks)

The pitch for Frozen isn't surprising. There have always been Imagineers like that. They don't really care about the park (usually WDW, not DLR) as long as their idea gets realized. Ambition and drive are nice, but when it comes to the compromising the integrity of the park, it can be really obnoxious.
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Even better, they are probably one of the ones that brags about not liking and visiting theme parks. Could you imagine a film director who does not like movies? Or even self-named film fans who constantly talk about how unimportant movies are?
 
Magenta Panther

Magenta Panther

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FutureCEO said:
so to renew debate, sorry, but take a look at this
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But industry watchers say that replacing the 26-year-old Maelstrom will help Walt Disney Co. capitalize on "Frozen" fever relatively quickly and inexpensively and make Epcot more appealing to youngsters.

What really ticks me off about that statement is that it's framed as if everything it describes is a good thing.

Who are these "industry watchers"?

This guy?

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misterID

misterID

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lazyboy97o said:
Even better, they are probably one of the ones that brags about not liking and visiting theme parks. Could you imagine a film director who does not like movies? Or even self-named film fans who constantly talk about how unimportant movies are?
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Oh, it happens. I had a friend who saw two Imagineers speaking at USC years ago bragging how they sandbagged Horizons, how they can skew guest feedback and surveys, and criticized the "choose your own ending" finale of the ride because good storytelling for an attraction should have a solid ending.

You know, ignoring the fact that Horizons was YEARS -- Make that DECADES ahead of its time in being one of the FIRST interactive experiences for an attraction in a theme park.
 
misterID

misterID

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Magenta Panther said:
One thing we can all take away from the Maelstrom/Frozen debacle is this: You guys salivating over a Star Wars Land better be prepared for a letdown. TDO will probably put a Star Wars show in the Muppet Theater and be done with it, AND think it's a good fit. After all, Yoda was a puppet, right?
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Yup, and I've always been under the impression from everything I've read is Star Wars Land will be a new Star Wars Jedi "training" center, a restaurant, gift shop and a launch coaster -- a coaster planned for TRON, Avatar and Iron Man at different times.

I'm really not expecting the massive expansion people have been building up for themselves.
 
Captain Chaos

Captain Chaos

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FutureCEO said:
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But it really wasn't. As I said in an above post, despite the characters being tossed in, Gran Fiesta Tour didn't change drastically from El Rio del Tiempo. The ride didn't become a ride through the Three Cabelleros animated movie. You still took a boat ride through Mexico. You still got to see REAL Mexican landscapes. You still saw REAL Mexican culture in those screen shots. And the show scenes with the AA's depicts Mexican culture/heritage. WDI didn't just do a retelling of Three Cabelleros. Frozen in Maelstrom will NOT be depicting REAL landscapes in a REAL country. Thus, Frozen truly compromises what World Showcase was meant to be.
 

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