Disney CMs calling guests " Friends"?

[crazy4disney]

Good morning ladies and gentlemen boys and girls!

 

[John park hopper]

Until the presence of aliens from another world has been established "Good morning humans" couldn't possible offend any one

 

[Mr Ferret 75]

Until the presence of aliens from another world has been established "Good morning humans" couldn't possible offend any one

As a non human I am offended

 

[Mr Ferret 75]

Good morning ladies and gentleman boys and girls!

Morning friend.

 

[LittleBuford]

I know I am unique. As I see the world, I see males that have traits which are more common in females and there are females that have traits more commonly found in males, I just do not associate these as gender specific just because it works for most. -- but it seems, to better fit in with the times, I should see traits as boxed into gender specificities because the box fits the majority? (which omits a good number of folks as they do not fit the box 100% ) believe that is the path my mind takes in seeing things as traits and not as pronouns.

I’m not suggesting that men can’t have traits normatively associated with women (and vice versa). Indeed, I myself am such a man. But that doesn’t mean that I would take kindly to being called “princess” except in very specific circumstances by very specific people. As a general rule, one shouldn’t misgender people, particularly if that act of misgendering, no matter how well intentioned, is likely to come across as a homophobic slur.

 

[LittleBuford]

I have to admit that it makes me chuckle that you are having to explain that calling a man "princess" is not likely to be interpreted as a compliment!

It’s a very surreal discussion, I have to say!

 

[MisterPenguin]

I have to admit that it makes me chuckle that you are having to explain that calling a man "princess" is not likely to be interpreted as a compliment!

Not to mention it's problematic that it's considered an insult for a man be called by feminine names as if there was something inherently inferior to being female or having a stereotypical female trait.

"I'm not a woman! ... Not that there's anything wrong with that."

 

[MisterPenguin]

Good morning ladies and gentleman boys and girls!

Who's that one gentleman you're saying 'good morning' to, friend?

 

[MisterPenguin]

Until the presence of aliens from another world has been established "Good morning humans" couldn't possible offend any one

Works for Laugh Factory!

 

[MisterPenguin]

As a non human I am offended

It should be, "Welcome to all hominids, procryonids, and spheniscids!"

 

[Goofyernmost]

Good morning ladies and gentleman boys and girls!

Tell me why saying ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls do not align with whatever anyone defines themselves as other then Eunuch? The only other way to describe the human race that is universal is carbon-based life form. Which doesn't exactly roll of the carbon based tongue, does it? But again that is for a wide range, larger gathering of mixed identities, not individuals. That is also when Friends would be appropriate, not for individual stranger identity.

 

[Mr Ferret 75]

Tell me why saying ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls do not align with whatever anyone defines themselves as other then Eunuch? The only other way to describe the human race that is universal is carbon-based life form. Which doesn't exactly roll of the carbon based tongue, does it? But again that is for a wide range, larger gathering of mixed identities, not individuals. That is also when Friends would be appropriate, not for individual stranger identity.

Well said friend.

 

[mkt]

Until the presence of aliens from another world has been established "Good morning humans" couldn't possible offend any one

You rang?

 

[crazy4disney]

Who's that one gentleman you're saying 'good morning' to, friend?

best you have picking on a spelling error? got it let me correct now thanks!

 

[crazy4disney]

Tell me why saying ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls do not align with whatever anyone defines themselves as other then Eunuch? The only other way to describe the human race that is universal is carbon-based life form. Which doesn't exactly roll of the carbon based tongue, does it? But again that is for a wide range, larger gathering of mixed identities, not individuals. That is also when Friends would be appropriate, not for individual stranger identity.

so are you saying that the removal of this phrase was way over the top like i feel & believe or are suggesting something else?

 

[Goofyernmost]

so are you saying that the removal of this phrase was way over the top like i feel & believe or are suggesting something else?

Yes, that is what I'm saying. The phrase Ladies and Gentlemen, boys and girls covers every possibility other then such a small number that it really isn't worth the effort. If, for example a man (transitions) and identifies as a woman then whatever one he/she identifies with is covered, non-judgmentally. So yes, they did go unnecessarily overboard if they have changed that. But, saying "Friends" in that group announcement isn't offensive or incorrect either. But keeping with the title of this thread, it does not fit individually. And it's not necessary to even try to get the attention or address any individual with friend unless the really are friends.

 

[crazy4disney]

Yes, that is what I'm saying. The phrase Ladies and Gentlemen, boys and girls covers every possibility other then such a small number that it really isn't worth the effort. If, for example a man (transitions) and identifies as a woman then whatever one he/she identifies with is covered, non-judgmentally. So yes, they did go unnecessarily overboard if they have changed that. But, saying "Friends" in that group announcement isn't offensive or incorrect either. But keeping with the title of this thread, it does not fit individually. And it not necessary to even try to get the attention or address any individual with friend unless the really are friends.

So i found another in agreement . We should start a club lol

 

[MickeyLuv'r]

Other varieties of English (including British) also use "princess" in that way. It's still gendered, because it's based on the idea of a supposedly female brand of entitlement. But I don't see what any of this has to do with the topic at hand. We're talking about how one should address strangers in a courteous manner. Surely we can agree that "friend" is a safer way to address a man you don't know than "princess".

Huh? I did not start the sidebar on the word princess.

person you do not know =stranger
In some places friend ONLY =someone you know have known your entire life.
stranger and friend are antonyms.
Calling a stranger a friend is double-speak, an inversion of language. Double-speak is a form of lying. It is done to manipulate emotions, and it is dangerous, because it makes lies sound truthful.

Surely, we all agree that doublespeak is dangerous, and that we should call it out when we see it.

 

[MisterPenguin]

Calling a stranger a friend is double-speak, an inversion of language.

And yet Shakespeare, Walt Disney, and Mitt Romney did so.

So cringe!!!!!1!

 

[MickeyLuv'r]

I have to admit that it makes me chuckle that you are having to explain that calling a man "princess" is not likely to be interpreted as a compliment!

I'm sorry, but who claimed that?
All I can find is someone saying they did not mind their daughter being addressed as princess while visiting WDW. -post #395