Right which is why I said it's tougher on Locals/APs but I don't have that experience.
Person A probably doesn't have any children.I wasn’t literally talking about the rich and famous…good catch there
What you’re describing is what in days of yore was the “lower upper class”. The Disney clientele was more the “upper middle class”
Now those archetypes have kinda “merged into one”…but the problem is there’s an invisible “ceiling” on it.
Huh? Simple - the demographic Disney draws hasn’t really shifted…it’s the money structure has changed who they are and what they have. And there’s fewer of them that won’t get bored. There really hasn’t been “upward mobility” in this country into that bracket in 50 years. It’s harder to find enough for Disney parks to meet quotas and is gonna keep moving that direction.
Examples question:
What is better for Disney business:
A. 10,000 people in the parks with an annual income of $500,000 and a “worth” of say $3-4 mil?
B. 10,000 people in the parks with about $250,000 in income and comfortable - but more traditional means?
Easy question, right?
All of the bobs moves for at least 8-10 years have been the exact OPPOSITE of encouraging people to return with the notable exception of timeshare construction.
Wait…people overpower their 4 billion year old biological instinct to procreate with money?
Frankly - if you weren't at Disneyland in the 50s you have absolutely zero reference of the spirit of Walt's parks and you want to talk late 90s?
…you were holding the rail until this…
Oh, I completely agree that this appears to be their strategy. The thing I find curious is that Disney seems so unbothered about the prospect this could happen and they increasingly become the add-on for a day or two of a vacation based at Uni. Who knows, maybe Disney's ultimately going to be proven right in largely ignoring this challenge and just doing their own thing. At least Disney's behaviour suggests that they don't feel EU is really going to move the needle much for them, presumably either just attracting entirely new travellers to Orlando who weren't going to Disney or cannibalising Uni's attendance rather than Disney's.
Yes, their recent investments in Epcot (with GotG chief among them) would seem to be among the worst they have made in WDW in terms of really changing the game in terms of the operation of the parks. Some of the updates like Connections and Creations were sorely needed and, IMHO, very much improve the park. Most of that is just refreshing (or demolishing and rebuilding) old facilities left to rot, however. GotG does give the park a headline thrill ride, but for all that money I would be curious to know how many additional people it is attracting to the park. Out of everything they've added, I kind of think Ratatouille most addressed a big flaw in the park by giving WS a much-needed extra ride on the opposite side from the existing two and a rare, good family ride for the park.
You think I'm being serious? The majority of the statements in this thread are over the top.
When I worked in fast food as a teenager the district mgrs were always pushing the store more with getting faster drive thru wait times . We would be staffed heavy during lunch rush to accomplish this. Increased sales and gave more bigger bonuses to mgrs.
No…they care about revenue and profit margins.
Does the sarcasm try to hide the complete lack of response whatsoever?Oh right…because it has Mickey Mouse then the rich and famous will “slum”…give in…buy dvc….show up every year for boo bash and a bad buffet at ohana in a meat market.
And no turndown service or concierge…
Right
Is it Supe’s day off or something?
Well since a small fraction of people who like high end with small kids actually are in wdw at any given time…to say there are no other alternatives is a bit aloof. Cruises, beach resort towns, cities, regional areas.
I (and everyone else) hope you are right.
No doubt there’s a lot of that.
It was catastrophic to the people
