TrainsOfDisney
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That could have been any new years prior to covid.
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News Disney CEO Bob Chapek reiterates his belief that park reservations are now an essential part of Disney's theme parks business
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peter11435
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And it could even happen this New Years since cast members are not blocked out of Epcot
2017
Disstevefan1
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I say with great sadness, we are not in 2017 anymore. The party is over.
The place to be on NYE in Epcot was outside China. The DJ, the flaming dragon , makeshift dance floor etc made for an intense experience.
Disstevefan1
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I was at EPCOT for NYE once. Never again. Way too intense for me. But that was pre PPR. I never experienced NYE at a Disneyparks post PPR.
As much as I hate PPRs, it must result in a better experience I presume.
UNCgolf
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It didn't cost Disney $500m to build a roller coaster in the 70s-90s.
TrainsOfDisney
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It doesn’t have to cost that now either.
Phil12
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That's entirely correct. Besides, roller coasters are old school and Disney should let the second rate parks deal with those attractions. Disney needs to look to the future. The future is in screens.
TrainsOfDisney
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Well…. It looks like those second rate parks are quickly becoming the 1st rate parks thanks to new coasters!
Casper Gutman
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If EU is as successful as many of us hope it will be, there's going to be pressure on Disney to make a theme-park-size addition. I agree that all of the Disney parks need several new rides, but that may not bring the splash they're going to be looking for. Besides a fifth gate means demonstrable ROI while new rides don't.
Doing both is the only real way forward, but...
(And if Uni acquires WB, the pressure on Disney to respond grows even more).
Phil12
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The old time parks using forced perspective, Pepper's ghost and other such illusions will remain popular. The new parks will use lasers with phase guide screens to make images indistinguishable from the real thing. Think how smart phones changed plain old telephone service. The reservation system will be absolutely needed because the demand will exceed the supply for many years to come. And, to a lesser degree, the new technologies will find their way into the old parks as well.Well…. It looks like those second rate parks are quickly becoming the 1st rate parks thanks to new coasters!
UNCgolf
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You mean it shouldn't, which is accurate, but it does.
I can't even imagine how much money it would cost for them to build a whole new park. $10 billion?
UNCgolf
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I don't know if building a fifth gate would provide much ROI, especially considering how much it would cost to build and the ongoing operational costs.
The other parks already lag behind MK in attendance -- are we sure a new park would really change anything? It might just lower attendance even further for the other parks without actually creating longer trips or any significant increase in overall business.
Plus, a new park under current management would probably consist of 5 or 6 attractions total.
erasure fan1
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Yup. Epic U could overtake magic kingdom for attendance and Disney would still not entertain a new park. It would go against every cost cutting strategy they have.
This is exactly what would happen. A 5th gate solves zero problems in your other 3 parks. The only thing it might accomplish is selling more park hoppers. The only thing Disney might do if EU is a huge success is green light a couple things for AK and the studios. And the likely candidates are expansions for star wars and avatar.
I would almost want them to make a 5th gate just because of this. Current management is so lacking that I would love to see just how bad a park conceived under this clown show would be. The long and short of this is that Disney is content resting on what they used to be. If Disney cared about universal, we would have already had a rebuttal from them.
doctornick
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Yeah, just building three new (not replacement) rides at each of DAK and DHS would make each of those parks so much more enjoyable for guests. The highlights are already there, they just need more stuff to do.
doctornick
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I don’t see how Comcast acquiring WB could possibly get past anti-trust regulators.
UNCgolf
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Oh definitely -- even one new attraction would be a big help.
I just think they need 5-6 (if not more) to be where they actually should be.
Perhaps the biggest hit for WDW in particular is the CP reputation has not been the best over the last decade either. A slight decline. Still high numbers of course but it is not what it once was because word has gotten out that there is less promise with remaining with the company in any better capacity than before. Seasonal Employment gets better pay and such elsewhere and Covid 19really brought awareness to it and put another dent in trying to get the right functional numbers back. WDW can't function like it wants to without it.
CP did not keep up enough with the typical pay people want. So even its numbers are harder to get the die hard fans of the company line to work compared to before.
As you point out, there are simply too many other employers paying a dollar or more for hourly and more importantly, treating others a lot better.