Disney California Adventure - Remodel or Refurb?

spacemt354

spacemt354

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With the influx of change coming to Disney California Adventure, many of them have fans of the park conflicted.

With a park supposed to be themed around California, Disney seems to prefer to go in a different direction entirely - loosely tying Marvel and Pixar properties into California 'themes' While the new attractions have been state of the art and will be sure to please the masses....it begs the question

Does Disney California Adventure need to just be completely remodeled? Or can we come up with alternative plans for the future that keep the theme of California in tact?

Either direction we choose - it might be a fun topic to brainstorm together and see where it leads us.
 
spacemt354

spacemt354

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AceAstro said:
I’d vote remodel. Sure there’s parts that keep the California theme but I don’t see that sticking together as well when Pixar Pier and Marvel come.
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So I agree that with Pixar and Marvel - the California theme makes no sense anymore so it needs to be redone.

For the refurb option though, it was more of an alternative future where these new projects wouldn't come and we'd try to better ways to 'plus' the lands.

It just seems so odd to me that Disney invested so much money into Buena Vista Street and Grizzly Airfield (both beautiful lands too) only to go in the completely opposite direction with Pixar Pier and Marvel:p
 
AceAstro

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I agree. Grizzly Peak Airfield is one of my favourite lands in any Disney park and now I feel like it will just get lost in the mess of the IP's. I am thinking Disney will try to hold onto the Californian theme as long as they can so they don't have to re-theme the Grand Californian in any way too. I feel like if the rest of the park is no longer Californian they'd have to change that too since it is another entrance into the park.
 
spacemt354

spacemt354

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AceAstro said:
I agree. Grizzly Peak Airfield is one of my favourite lands in any Disney park and now I feel like it will just get lost in the mess of the IP's. I am thinking Disney will try to hold onto the Californian theme as long as they can so they don't have to re-theme the Grand Californian in any way too. I feel like if the rest of the park is no longer Californian they'd have to change that too since it is another entrance into the park.
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From a business standpoint I can see why they want to capitalize on Marvel -- but it comes at the price of sacrificing consistency. And Pixar Pier I just don't get that at all. :hilarious:

California is so rich in history that DCA 1.0 didn't fail because of the theme, imo it was because it was done on the cheap and was tacky like Superstar Limo.

If you transformed Pacific Wharf to @D Hindley 's version of Pacific Wharf used for Sydney Disneyland -- those are the kind of lands you can make with a California theme!
 
AceAstro

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spacemt354 said:
From a business standpoint I can see why they want to capitalize on Marvel -- but it comes at the price of sacrificing consistency. And Pixar Pier I just don't get that at all. :hilarious:

California is so rich in history that DCA 1.0 didn't fail because of the theme, imo it was because it was done on the cheap and was tacky like Superstar Limo.

If you transformed Pacific Wharf to @D Hindley 's version of Pacific Wharf used for Sydney Disneyland -- those are the kind of lands you can make with a California theme!
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Agreed. To me, the worst part of the park right now is Hollywood Land. It is stuck in limbo on what it wants to be. It has Monsters Inc. in one corner with then a lot of empty space around it in Stage 17 and an empty Muppets Theatre and then the other corner has GotG.

I think if Hollywood Land had a direction to go, we would know what to do with the rest of the park.
 
kmbmw777

kmbmw777

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I would argue that they already voted on the refurbishment philosophy when the beautiful land that is "Cars Land" came out.

However, @Imagineerland wrote once that the park should embody the Californian spirit of life, adventure, and creation:
http://imagineerland.blogspot.com/search/label/Disneyland Phases
His creation manages to add Pixar and Marvel to the park (in slightly different ways) and still keep it consistent with its themes.
 
kmbmw777

kmbmw777

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disneyforever101396 said:
You make a good point. If California Adventure is changing, the name has got to go. We need to name it to something that doesn't sound like a IP Park.
Probably, Disney's Portals of Fantasy. Just my suggestion.
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I don’t think the question is what will happen, but rather what we want to happen. I think our goal is to redesign California Adventure into something that represents what the collective wishes the Park was (within reason).

For me, I think keeping the park themed to the beauties of California is great. Especially with Buena Vista Street and Grizzly Peak. My Blue Sky Park would have no IP lands (including Cars Land; no matter how beautiful it is).

There’s a lot of interesting debates to be had.
 
disneyforever101396

disneyforever101396

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I understand from your pint of view. But, apparently theme parks today are trying to make success off popular IPs. It's working with Harry Potter and Avatar and soon, Star Wars will be the next big thing. So, if California Adventure wants to go away from it's theme and just try to profit off IPs to make it more exciting, why not? Yes, we need more orginial attractions. But, what if people who grew up with Disney won't like them?
 
spacemt354

spacemt354

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So for me I'm okay with Cars Land because of Route 66 and the canyon rockwork (even though Radiator Springs is technically in Arizona)

What Disney does best is when it puts the guests into eras and places you can't visit yourself. Imo that's why DCA 1.0 wasn't received well. It focused too much on places California residents could simply drive to in order to see the real thing.

But you can't drive to 1930s Hollywood and Buena Vista Street, or to an old fashioned Boardwalk, or to even Radiator Springs.

So I don't mind IPs as long as they fit with California. The problem I find with the new Marvel and Pixar additions is there is no natural connection with California, it's really forced. Rocket saying 'oh look Disneyland' on Mission Breakout is just a slap in the face to true theme in my view. Disney can do better.
 
spacemt354

spacemt354

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I was thinking a fun exercise could be trying to take the park as is now, even with Mission Breakout, and edit the new plans Disney has for both Pixar Pier and Marvel and the rest of the park while we are at it!

Mission Breakout is gonna make it tough - but one of my ideas to counter that was to simply wall off that side of the park into a 'Marvel Studios' backlot area - where you step underneath an archway, transitioning similar to how you go from London to Diagon Alley in Universal.

There you don't need the 'California tie' because the Studio is the California tie.
 

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