Disney buys Fox for $52 Billion

Ismael Flores

Ismael Flores

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phruby said:
Here is what they need to do. Forget Marvel. Move the Great Movie Ride to the DCA "backlot" and add 20th Century Fox IPs to it. It would replace Muppets, Millionaire building and Monsters inc in one giant building and be a omnimover instead of a giant car. Now they can really do an Alien scene.
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A year after all the annual pass holders have been on it, it would be a walk on and run empty omnimover cars constantly.
I think an attraction using a passive omniover system like that would be to much of an investment for little return.
 
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PB Watermelon

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brb1006 said:
Although there are times when he's correct.
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I stopped reading his stuff when he went on his crusade to prove Disney paid too much for Pixar, and tried to use the box office for CARS as proof, and also talked trash about Roy Disney and his Save Disney campaign. That was over a decade ago. Someone remind me -- how much CARS merchandise has sold by now? He was also selling his own private tours of Disneyland until he was found out and Disney shut it down. I love the annual Unauthorized Guide to Disneyland / Disney World, but I grind my teeth when I see his blurbs in the book complete with a little drawing of himself holding a pair of binoculars, like he's some sort of spy.
 
Phroobar

Phroobar

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Ismael Flores said:
A year after all the annual pass holders have been on it, it would be a walk on and run empty omnimover cars constantly.
I think an attraction using a passive omniover system like that would be to much of an investment for little return.
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Isn't that the point of an omnimover? To move as many people as possible thru the ride. Lines are suppose to be short or none existant with it. The HM would never have a line if the stretching room wasn't there.
 
Hatbox Ghostbuster

Hatbox Ghostbuster

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phruby said:
Isn't that the point of an omnimover? To move as many people as possible thru the ride. Lines are suppose to be short or none existant with it. The HM would never have a line if the stretching room wasn't there.
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Also, I highly doubt the public would lost interest in The Great Movie Ride v2. It was one of the main reasons to visit MGM back in the day, and kept packing guests in until it closed.
 
flynnibus

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phruby said:
It also had a larger capacity than the other ones. It's in a park with very little to ride.
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A capacity not used.... and in a park with less rides should normally mean MORE demand not less. GMR was not packing them in. It ran under utilized far more often than not.

That's what happens when you don't update attractions... even the TCM refresh was minimal
 
Phroobar

Phroobar

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flynnibus said:
A capacity not used.... and in a park with less rides should normally mean MORE demand not less. GMR was not packing them in. It ran under utilized far more often than not.

That's what happens when you don't update attractions... even the TCM refresh was minimal
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Maybe no one knew it was there with that giant hat in the way? ;) It also was very dated and offered no thrills. If I went to Disneyworld every year I would skip it too. It was their equivalent to Mr. Lincoln or the Universe of Energy.
 
Hatbox Ghostbuster

Hatbox Ghostbuster

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flynnibus said:
There is a reason it didn't show the second live action scene all the time. They didn't run it at capacity and usually ran below the wait times of the other three headliners.
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OK, I'll give you that it's later years might not have shown it being filled to capacity, but I highly doubt that if it were to come to DCA, it would have a one-year length of popularity like the other poster alluded to.
 
flynnibus

flynnibus

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Hatbox Ghostbuster said:
OK, I'll give you that it's later years might not have shown it being filled to capacity, but I highly doubt that if it were to come to DCA, it would have a one-year length of popularity like the other poster alluded to.
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GMR was a Disney masterpiece... the problem is it idolized a period the new generations don't give a hoot about and represents an industry that has evolved to granduer that now only exists in a digital world.

The golden age of hollywood isn't something millennials could even identify as a thing... It needed to evolve, along with the whole studio concept of the park.. but instead Disney chose to ride it all the way into the dirt.
 
Phroobar

Phroobar

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flynnibus said:
GMR was a Disney masterpiece... the problem is it idolized a period the new generations don't give a hoot about and represents an industry that has evolved to granduer that now only exists in a digital world.

The golden age of hollywood isn't something millennials could even identify as a thing... It needed to evolve, along with the whole studio concept of the park.. but instead Disney chose to ride it all the way into the dirt.
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Darn millennials. Why did we have them? Wasn't a diet of video games and ipads enough for them?
 
George Lucas on a Bench

George Lucas on a Bench

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GMR was very obviously a repurposed EPCOT Center ride. A slow moving dark ride through elaborate scenes filled with robots, some of them very awkward looking in that charming 80s Disney style. Don't worry, for now you can still see robots like that in the American Adventure show, the stately manor which contains the lobby resembling an original concept for the WDW HM. I loved GMR, but that style of ride just isn't in fashion anymore. It's a wonder they even did the Avatar boat ride.
 
Hatbox Ghostbuster

Hatbox Ghostbuster

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flynnibus said:
GMR was a Disney masterpiece... the problem is it idolized a period the new generations don't give a hoot about and represents an industry that has evolved to granduer that now only exists in a digital world.

The golden age of hollywood isn't something millennials could even identify as a thing... It needed to evolve, along with the whole studio concept of the park.. but instead Disney chose to ride it all the way into the dirt.
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Same can be said of Epcot.
One of Disney's biggest P&R issues is that of upkeep and refreshing. They seem to love letting things suffer and rot rather than regular upgrades and innovations.
 
Disney Irish

Disney Irish

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WDWBigEd said:
So I tried to look around before I posted. I was in the lunch room today to hear on the news about the Disney / Fox deal again. They caught my attention when the news mention Marvel. To sum it up with the current deal Comcast would now have to pay Disney for Marvel and Simpsons. Disney is going to try and trade Simpsons for Marvel.

http://www.wftv.com/news/local/simpsons-could-be-bargaining-tool-between-disney-fox/696531159
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This has been discussed previously in this thread. Its unknown at this point, but this deal is beyond just the theme parks.

So I would venture to say at least in the immediate to medium term (think 5 years out) I just don't see a trade happening. Comcast has invested too much money in both Simpsons and Marvel at the Orlando parks. So they will want to milk that for awhile to get a return on investment. 10+ years down the line, who knows.
 

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