Disney (and others) at the Box Office - Current State of Affairs

LittleBuford

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Mostly the comments from Rachel Zegler and Gal Gadot.
Their comments basically added up to saying that Snow White wasn’t going to be a helpless lovesick damsel. Which she isn’t—just as many Disney princesses before her haven’t been. You’ve claimed multiple times that you don’t comment on the plots of films you haven’t seen, yet here you are speaking with feigned authority (and inaccurately) about the storyline of a movie you’re never going to watch.
 

Vegas Disney Fan

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Well good news. They have only released 2 films this year and only one is a flop. So there’s plenty of time for them to have a big hit or two or 3.
Agree, looking at Disneys lineup for the year they should be fine, likely very profitable as well, I still think all involved would prefer if they made $3 billion in profit this year rather than $2.5 billion though.

The other good news is most 2025 predictions I saw had both Snow and Stitch in the $400-$600 million box office range, early excitement over Stitch has bumped most prediction up a couple hundred million so the couple hundred million Snow (likely) loses should (🤞) be made up by Stitch, I hope so for the sake of the people who rely on studios for work at least.
 

TP2000

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Well good news. They have only released 2 films this year and only one is a flop. So there’s plenty of time for them to have a big hit or two or 3.

Neither will break even. Captain America 4 is currently running a loss of $70 Million, and Snow White appears to be heading to about a $300 Million global box office which will rack up a loss around $200 Million.

Captain America 4: Production $180, Marketing $90, Domestic $116, Overseas $84 = $70 Million Loss
Snow White:
Production $250, Marketing $100, Domestic $90???, Overseas $60??? = $200 Million Loss???

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WorldExplorer

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"She's not going to be saved by the Prince!"

From what I've heard she does, in fact, end up being saved by the male love interest, which just emphasizes how totally inconsequential and acceptable Disney found the backlash.

("But it's not a prince!" We all know the point of that comment was that a dude wasn't going to save her, not specifically the social standing of the dude.)
 

TP2000

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Not really. The stench of this production forced a recalibration of this film, as well as Disney’s entire “live action” adaptation pipeline. How many more “live action” adaptations are to come in the coming years? The studio’s champion of these films, Sean Bailey, was forced out in 2024:

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Well, that would seem to be very good news for Burbank's box office in the latter half of the 2020's.

Bob Iger was right to order a course correct, but I hope the correction goes far enough to fix the damage already done.
 

DKampy

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Every film can't be a blockbuster. But a big studio should be able to get a majority of its movies to at least break even.

And when you are spending north of $300 Million to remake the famous icon movie that created your studio in the first place, you can't screw that one up. You need to be better than what Burbank is doing now. The company depends on it.

Heck, even this young 21st century theme park waiter owes his job to that princess named Snow White.

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So tell me again how Disney was at a loss due to the film slate in 2024

Also my comment was more referring to people citing that the Hollywood craft services were in trouble due to the box office results of one movie… as if Hollywood has not had a failure ever in it’s over 100 years of existence
 
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Tha Realest

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People were bound to understand it as problematic swipe at Gadot. I myself can’t help suspecting it was.
Of course it was. When the trailer dropped there were the predictable outrage given Gadot’s association with this film and a bunch of vile anti-Semitic and anti-Israeli comments flooding social media. Zegler chose that moment to demonstrate her alliance with those expressing their disgust and dismay at Gadot’s involvement in the film.
 

Disney Irish

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NYT piece on WB and Zaslav mentions Snow White production/marketing cost was “at least $350 million.”
There is a lot of context missing there. As it just spouts off a number without actually saying if that is before or after reshoots, before or after the tax breaks, etc.

So just like every other media outlet that spouts off a number without any further details, take it with a huge grain of salt and don’t rely on it.
 

Vegas Disney Fan

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There is a lot of context missing there. As it just spouts off a number without actually saying if that is before or after reshoots, before or after the tax breaks, etc.

So just like every other media outlet that spouts off a number without any further details, take it with a huge grain of salt and don’t rely on it.
I’ve seen so many conflicting reports I’ll be shocked if we ever know. All we know for sure is what England reported as part of the tax incentives, which I believe was $255 million before the rebate.

I think it’s safe to speculate the breakeven point is somewhere between $500-600 million but even that is speculation.
 

Casper Gutman

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Of course it was. When the trailer dropped there were the predictable outrage given Gadot’s association with this film and a bunch of vile anti-Semitic and anti-Israeli comments flooding social media. Zegler chose that moment to demonstrate her alliance with those expressing their disgust and dismay at Gadot’s involvement in the film.
Zegler should not have said what she said. It probably was a dig at Gadot. She should have been reprimanded. A lot of unfair, ugly hatred was directed at Gadot.

People are going out of their way to put the worst imaginable spin on Zegler’s comments while putting absurdly positive spin on the two years of hateful comments directed at Zegler or ignoring them altogether. She was not “allying” herself with anti-semitism.

This issue ties into a much larger and more relevant one. I won’t go into my own thoughts on the conflict other than to say they are not Zegler’s. Having said that, a great deal of speech sympathetic to Palestine is being aggressively and unconstitutionally suppressed right now. As part of this, legitimate comments are being labeled anti-Semitic (which helps to mask real and growing anti-Semitism). I disagree with an overwhelming majority of this speech, but its repression strikes at the heart of this nation’s ideals.
 

TalkingHead

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There is a lot of context missing there. As it just spouts off a number without actually saying if that is before or after reshoots, before or after the tax breaks, etc.

So just like every other media outlet that spouts off a number without any further details, take it with a huge grain of salt and don’t rely on it.
It’s Brooks Barnes who Burbank has called on before. The “at least” is him doing Disney a favor.
 

Disney Irish

Premium Member
I’ve seen so many conflicting reports I’ll be shocked if we ever know. All we know for sure is what England reported as part of the tax incentives, which I believe was $255 million before the rebate.

I think it’s safe to speculate the breakeven point is somewhere between $500-600 million but even that is speculation.
I agree, which is why for better or worse you just have to take what the recognized trades say is the budget which is $269.4M.
 

Disney Irish

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It’s Brooks Barnes who Burbank has called on before. The “at least” is him doing Disney a favor.
I read the article, I'm aware.

But that still doesn't make what they put into the article any less out of context. Again its not listed as being before or after reshoots and before or after tax breaks.

For example if we say its after reshoots but before tax breaks, that brings it down to less than $300M.
 

Disney Irish

Premium Member
* By the end of 2023.

Or are you of the belief another year of production (reshoots, SFX) was relatively minimal?
I don't know how much the reshoots and post-production was, and neither does anyone here. There have been so many numbers floated out there for this movie that they all contradict either other. So in order to cut through all the noise we just use a number reported by the trades we use the $269.4M number.

And at this point the actual number doesn't matter anyways as its very likely not breaking even anyways. So why does it matter if we use a lower number than what NYT reports.
 

TP2000

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So tell me again how Disney was at a loss due to the film slate in 2024

Also my comment was more referring to people citing that the Hollywood craft services were in trouble due to the box office results of one movie… as if Hollywood has not had a failure ever in it’s over 100 years of existence

You realize that the Hollywood "industry" in SoCal is in an economic recession, dragging down the entire region, right?

You realize that multiple news sources, who are nothing but left-wing, keep talking about how dire the economic situation is for low level support workers, blue collar workers in the trades, and white collar cubicle drones in the movie industry, right?

The economy of greater Los Angeles is weakened and getting weaker, and the specific industry of show business is at the heart of that weakness. Which has led to Billion dollar budget deficits from LA to Sacramento. But sure, write off yet another mega-million Disney flop and pretend it doesn't matter to the little people. But it matters, and Hollywood's working class is paying the price.

 

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