Disney (and others) at the Box Office - Current State of Affairs

[Vegas Disney Fan]

And yet I’m an apologist for a lot of the projects from those time periods. The early 2000s is the worst one but I like most of the movies they made in that time even some of the direct to dvd sequels.

I’ve enjoyed probably 95% of what Disney animations done over the years, the vast majority have only been viewed a couple times though, the exceptions are movies like Stitch, Moana, Tangled, Robin Hood, Aladdin, the Lion King, Encanto, etc that are my go to’s I seem to watch a few times every year.

 

[DKampy]

Yes I mentioned them in terms of potentially having SW landing the same level as the other two in terms of box office returns.


Eternals and Cap 4 didn’t do well either. ETA Thor love and Thunder? A quick read says that needed up pulling a profit.

DC is an odd duck. I think there was some good ideas in SS just badly executed. Same with Justice League. Then again I’ve never been a big fan of DC relative

I did not mention Eternals because I felt that happen during Covid… so there was a bit of an asterisk with that…. Though I thought it was an awful movie either way

Cap 4 … I left it alone for the time being as it is still in theaters…. Though in my mind it looks like a disappointment rather than an outright disaster

I am not the biggest superhero movie fan…but as a film fan(any genre)I have seen many…. The Thor franchise is one that I have not seen much of… But as far as I can tell it was on par with the other Thor movies

I did like The James Gunn SS

 

[Tony the Tigger]

Well now I'm feeling like a real coward. You had a backbone at age 4 and could handle Jaws, one of the most terrifying films in history.
Meanwhile at several years older, I still couldn't handle Large Marge and the clown doctor from Pee Wee's Big Adventure.

I had no choice, mom had no sitter!

I love that movie to this day. If I’m flipping through the channels and it’s on, I’m probably watching it.

But I have never been able to watch truly gory stuff. I prefer scary/suspenseful rather than gross.

I think I empathize too much and just see injury and pain, and turn away, wincing. So much for backbone!

 

[TP2000]

I honestly forgot chicken little existed until just now and by extension I also remembered this abomination.View attachment 849685

Wait, I thought you were 17 years old? You would have been Minus 3 years old when that happened at DCA 1.0.

Perhaps your parents hadn't even gone on their first date in 2005.

Or are you just remembering it vicariously through the Internet? That wouldn't be the first time that happened on these boards.

 

[DKampy]

Wait, I thought you were 17 years old? You would have been Minus 3 years old when that happened at DCA 1.0.

Perhaps your parents hadn't even gone on their first date in 2005.

Or are you just remembering it vicariously through the Internet? That wouldn't be the first time that happened on these boards.

Because people can not go back and watch older movies

 

[LittleBuford]

Because people can not go back and watch older movies

I think he's referring to that monstrosity erected in California Adventure. But yes, one doesn't have to have seen such a thing to have knowledge of it.

 

[DKampy]

I think he's referring to that monstrosity erected in California Adventure. But yes, one doesn't have to have seen such a thing to have knowledge of it.

Ahhh…. Yes… never mind… It’s still early here… I did not see the DCA mention

 

[Agent H]

Wait, I thought you were 17 years old? You would have been Minus 3 years old when that happened at DCA 1.0.

Perhaps your parents hadn't even gone on their first date in 2005.

Or are you just remembering it vicariously through the Internet? That wouldn't be the first time that happened on these boards.

It’s the latter. I’ve never been to Disneyland.

 

[Disney Irish]

Wait, I thought you were 17 years old? You would have been Minus 3 years old when that happened at DCA 1.0.

Perhaps your parents hadn't even gone on their first date in 2005.

Or are you just remembering it vicariously through the Internet? That wouldn't be the first time that happened on these boards.

One does not have to have personally experienced something in order to have learned about that thing and know it, and thus be reminded of it later in conversation.

I mean you're proof of that, you've never seen like 99.9% of the movies discussed on this board and yet you can talk about their box office endlessly and have opinions on them.

 

[TP2000]

Because people can not go back and watch older movies

No, I get that. It was just the specific reference to the giant Chicken Little inflatable balloon at the entrance to DCA in '05.

That surprised me that a 17 year old kid would know that was a thing for one month in 2005. It probably just showed up in his 8 second Google search though. It just threw me for a loop because I had forgotten about it myself, but then it all came flooding back how stupid that tacky stunt was at the time.

 

[Agent H]

No, I get that. It was just the specific reference to the giant Chicken Little inflatable balloon at the entrance to DCA in '05.

That surprised me that a 17 year old kid would know that was a thing for one month in 2005. It probably just showed up in his 8 second Google search though. It just threw me for a loop because I had forgotten about it myself, but then it all came flooding back how stupid that tacky stunt was at the time.

I learned about it in a yesterworld entertainment video.

 

[TP2000]

I learned about it in a yesterworld entertainment video.

Ah, okay! There was the whole era in the early to mid 2000's when Pressler and Harriss and their TDA holdouts were just throwing anything at DCA to see if it could fix it. Nothing worked. And often, it further damaged an already failing product. It seems impossible, but the gimmicks often made DCA feel even cheaper and tackier than it already was.

I think the tackiest and cheapest thing they did was the X Games summer. That was very poorly designed and implemented. About the best thing was the Rockin' The Bay concert series in '02, because that actually had some good bands as I remember. But even then, it was a County Fair concert type setup and vibe.

 

[Agent H]

Ah, okay! There was the whole era in the early to mid 2000's when Pressler and Harriss and their TDA holdouts were just throwing anything at DCA to see if it could fix it. Nothing worked. And often, it further damaged an already failing product. And it seems impossible, but it often made DCA feel even cheaper and tackier than it already was.

I think the tackiest and cheapest thing they did was the X Games summer. That was very poorly designed and implemented. About the best thing was the Rockin' The Bay concert series in '02, because that actually had some good bands as I remember. But even then, it was a County Fair concert type setup and vibe.

The x-games are real?! I just thought they were from an extremely goofy movie.

 

[TP2000]

Speaking of DCA, since it was fixed and rebranded in 2012, they've had movie premieres there using the 2,000 seat Hyperion Theater as the venue, with associated parties in the Hollywood Backlot. Buena Vista Street has been the placement of the Red Carpet, leading up to the Carthay Circle Restaurant complex.

Here's pics from The Lone Ranger (a huge flop!) movie premiere at DCA in 2013, which included live horses and a giant 1880's steam locomotive parked on Hollywood Blvd for the party for no apparent reason than Instagrammable Moments.

Why the heck they didn't use this location and event footprint for the Snow White premiere with the iconic Carthay Circle as the backdrop is beyond me!

 

[TP2000]

The x-games are real?! I just thought they were from an extremely goofy movie.

It was real. And tacky. And dusty. And shadeless. And it could only happen at DCA when Cynthia Harriss was in full panic mode.

Yesterland: X Games Xperience at Yester California Adventure

www.yesterland.com

Then about six months later, Cynthia resigned suddenly to "spend more time with family" (They actually used that line! How embarrassing!) as a childless single woman who a month later announced she was taking a job with The Gap up in San Francisco. Apparently the "family" only needed about 30 days of her time, then she moved out of town.

 

[Phroobar]

The x-games are real?! I just thought they were from an extremely goofy movie.

I went to it. They threw a bunch of dirt in the parking lot and setup a few chairs. It was out the gate next to the tortilla factory where Carsland is now. No shade and very dusty. Just a guy on a megaphone announcing each trick. It was very county fair feeling. The stores next to Golden Dreams had snowboarding video games.

Yesterland: X Games Xperience at Yester California Adventure

yesterland.com

 

[brideck]

The x-games are real?! I just thought they were from an extremely goofy movie.

The X Games are still a thing. (Generally speaking, not in a DCA context.) A lot of those sports have found acceptance in one way or another in the Olympics because of the influence the X Games have had over the last 30 years.

Total aside, but one of my favorite X Games tie-ins is the PlayStation game that came out alongside the initial iteration (back when they were the Extreme Games). Then ESPN reporter Suzy Kolber has all of these hilarious in-game videos where she more or less mocks the player for being terrible at the game.

 

[TP2000]

Hollywood industry media is now doing post-mortems on Snow White. They fall into two basic camps, as per usual in the mid 2020's; a hoping against hope things will turn around suddenly camp, and a Go Woke, Go Broke camp.

Articles today where Maybe There's A Silver Lining And Box Office Can Turn Around And Things Aren't That Bad?

Box Office: How ‘Snow White’ Landed in Potential Bomb Territory

Disney's tentpole opened to near-disastrous numbers considering its megabudget. Is there still a chance for a fairy tale ending?

www.hollywoodreporter.com

Rachel Zegler responds to "Snow White" box office performance

Zegler celebrated the new Disney movie's opening on Instagram.

www.newsweek.com

The Lesson ‘Snow White’ Should Teach Disney

The studio’s latest live-action remake shows hints of courage—but only hints.

www.theatlantic.com

Did Snow White crash at box office because it's too woke? Experts weigh in

While these critiques played a role, experts said there are several other factors that contributed to its soft box office debut.

www.newsweek.com

 

[Farerb]

Inside Disney’s ‘Snow White’ Fiasco: Death Threats, Beefed-Up Security and a Social Media Guru for Rachel Zegler

From beefing up security for Gal Gadot to hiring a social media guru for Rachel Zegler, go inside the fiasco that is Disney's "Snow White" remake.

variety.com

 

[Vegas Disney Fan]

Inside Disney’s ‘Snow White’ Fiasco: Death Threats, Beefed-Up Security and a Social Media Guru for Rachel Zegler

From beefing up security for Gal Gadot to hiring a social media guru for Rachel Zegler, go inside the fiasco that is Disney's "Snow White" remake.

variety.com

A fair summary.