bwr827
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Disney (and others) at the Box Office - Current State of Affairs
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Dranth
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What variety of hits?
Unless I am missing one of theirs, the only movies they have released so far this year to do much more than break even are Despicable Me 4 and Kung Fu Panda 4.
Maybe we are defining hits differently or you are talking longer term?
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Willmark
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easyrowrdw
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I think this makes sense. It really does seem to vary depending on the movie/studio/audience. I know people who have boycotted Disney over some of these cultural issues. But I think more people take it on a case-by-case basis.Or…
The success of “woke” narratives in films varies with the target market. The Barbie movie resonates well with its core audience of young girls and women, aligning with themes of empowerment and diversity.
In contrast, franchises like Marvel and Star Wars have historically male-dominated fanbases, making it more challenging to integrate progressive themes without facing resistance from a wide part of their audience.
Ultimately, understanding and appealing to the target market, managing audience expectations, and authentically weaving themes into the story are key factors in the success of any film narrative.
Hugh Jackman, Ryan Reynolds, and the entire Deadpool movie provided a warm, loving embrace for the Marvel male target audience. Similarly, Robert Downey Jr. as Dr. Doom will also excite and engage that target market.
Deadpool's Audience Under The Microscope
Movio’s data scientists have analyzed the evolution of the audience of one of 2016’s biggest hits, Deadpool.vistagroup.co.nz
I think it was more than just DeSantis. Around the same time you had statements from more than one Disney exec about their plans to have more gay characters in Disney media. Lightyear was released shortly after these events and then Strange World a few months later. But it's been two years and both "sides" seem to have backed off. I saw this article (NY Times, reprinted on Yahoo) and it seems relevant.
What is wrong with having more representation?…,despite what the Disney ranters say straight white males is still the most represented demographic in film and it is not even close
easyrowrdw
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I didn't think the discussion was about the validity of the opinions or the people who hold them, but about how they may have impacted the box office.
BrianLo
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We’re watching the dying breath of the fanboys in withdrawal/staged recovery that we said would disappear the moment there were a string of hits. Proving true. Now they are hitching their wagons to the stock price or whatever other barometer of revenge.
Of course, Comcast just had an abysmal report too…
Wasn't expecting IO2 to be as big as of a hit as it is, felt like it would underperform, Deadpool and Wolverine doing well isn't surprising though (only other film this year that had this sure bet of a performance is DM4).
Similarly with Iger, there was a lot of doubt last year after nothing at the box office worked, though if he pushed back the date that he was leaving again, maybe there would be calls to step down outside of the usuals on this forum. I hate the "make 2019 happen via science or magic strategy" that he's using, but Wall Street won't push him out. As for the complaints about LGBT people in their movies, those who are complaining are cowards. Lightyear and Strange World bombed because they were bad movies, simple as that.
Something I have learned from following WBD is that investors surprisingly don't care that much about stock price as you would think, Zaslav has tanked WB's value to almost penny stock status and there's no chance he will get pushed out (though there are investor groups now pressuring him to sell off as many assets as possible and split the company).
Similarly with Iger, there was a lot of doubt last year after nothing at the box office worked, though if he pushed back the date that he was leaving again, maybe there would be calls to step down outside of the usuals on this forum. I hate the "make 2019 happen via science or magic strategy" that he's using, but Wall Street won't push him out. As for the complaints about LGBT people in their movies, those who are complaining are cowards. Lightyear and Strange World bombed because they were bad movies, simple as that.
My apologies if I read the context of what you wrote incorrect… I thought you were pointing out Disney was the issue for wanting more representation in the film
I still don’t think failing or succeeding has as much to do with any so called “woke” material as people think… even if I was starting to believe that people were falling for the YouTube ragers agendas… this year is showing that was not the case myself. They were just going after easy targets that would not have succeeded either way… shows like The Boys showed it was not the case… there was some pushback against that show…but when the show was still a hit….all was quiet as it did not fit their narrative
I believe people would. of twisted things to fit their ideology agenda if Inside Out 2 was not a success… heck we had someone in this very thread complaining that the hockey coach was a black female
Vegas Disney Fan
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“shockingly good viewership” feels generous but I agree that they were solid performers, not money printers like old Marvel but solid performers.
Bringing back RDJ does feel a bit “break glass in case of emergency” but it’s working, I can’t wait to see what he does with that character, I haven’t been this excited about Marvel since Endgame.
BrianLo
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Very subjective commentary because I thought it was very bad and it’s the only Marvel series I’ve actually not completed. So my shock is that it had a generous renewal level viewership.
It is interesting how some have quietly disappeared with some successful hits
Hawkeye_2018
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2026 could be a record year for Disney at the Box office
TP2000
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Hiya gang! I apologize this box office info is so late, as I had a very busy weekend. 
But here's the Box Office nitty gritty on the bonzo boffo weekend that Deadpool & Wolverine just did! Assuming it has the usual $200 Million budget for Marvel, it will need $600 or Million or so globally to break even. That's going to be pretty much a given at this point!
Meanwhile, in Anaheim, I have no idea what this is about but this is happening...
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www.the-numbers.com
But here's the Box Office nitty gritty on the bonzo boffo weekend that Deadpool & Wolverine just did! Assuming it has the usual $200 Million budget for Marvel, it will need $600 or Million or so globally to break even. That's going to be pretty much a given at this point!
Meanwhile, in Anaheim, I have no idea what this is about but this is happening...
The Numbers - Weekend Box Office Chart for August 2, 2024
Weekend Domestic Box Office Chart for the weekend of August 2, 2024
www.the-numbers.com
TP2000
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For about 60 years actually. I was hoping Elemental would have been a bit more real in its rehash of Guess Who's Coming To Dinner (one of my all time favorites!), instead of the fire folks just being automatically accepting and happy. Pixar seemed to take the least conflictual way through that plot, which could have been a funny/thoughtful way to play the story to adults if it had some more friction among characters.
Even the pro-marriage Katherine Hepburn had to sit down when she first met Dr. Prentice in her living room.
TP2000
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Disney certainly learned a few lessons at the Box Office the past two years.
It seems the course correction has already begun for them. But we'll likely need to wait to see non-sequel stuff come out for the family audience demographic from Pixar and WDAS through 2025 that isn't woke before we can all relax again.
TP2000
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I'm here, I'm here!
I've just been very busy the past few weeks; I almost bit off more than I can chew in hosting a bigger than usual sociable. Thank God for the kids from The Mobile Intoxicologists and their hilarious bar car, which I highly recommend for folks in San Diego County who plan a bigger 'do than they can handle with just a helper or two.
But I'm here! I will double down and play catchup this week before I get busy again with family in August.
easyrowrdw
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I was trying to say that it wasn't just DeSantis but people also responding to some of Disney's actions/statements.
I've never seen The Boys, but it's not a Disney show, is it? I think some people have different standards or expectations when it comes to Disney, particularly Disney animated/family movies.
TP2000
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Bingo!
Disney execs had their own Alissa Heinerscheid moments several times the past few years. They weren't flattering.
And people who historically bought Disney's products noticed and talked about it.