Disney (and others) at the Box Office - Current State of Affairs

[LittleBuford]

No one here claimed it was for everyone, or compared it to Barbie that I’m aware. It is certainly an arthouse film and you are entitled to your opinion but would not label it depraved.

I’ve seen comparisons with Barbie in commentaries that discuss them both as feminist films.

“Depraved” seems a curious description to me also (though at least he’s actually watched it).

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Irrelevant to what Buddy just posted. He claimed Poor things did not get a bump because it is available on streaming.

The fact that people don't have to leave their couch, but people still did for Oppenheimer and The Holdovers back says that people are watching it from both sources.

Peacock actually gets you two Oscar bump movies we are discussing here. And both had huge theater increase. If people don't get off their couches much anymore, but still did even when they can just watch both on a streaming service...that tells you how Poor things did not benefit theatrically as.kuch from this.

Oppenheimer today snuck just below Poor Things as it grew since yesterday's amount.(An amazing 299 percent from the bump it already has Monday and Tuesday post Oscars) I suspect there is a chance by weekend it will stay right below it or pass Poor Things. Also take into account even more impressive as before The Oscars, Oppenheimer was one of the top seen films of the year and grossed over three times it's budget domestically and towards a billion internationally.

I think the fact poor things is a recent release would hurt its bump to a certain degree…

But beyond that…it’s bizarre. A 10 second google search may turn off potential theater goers who may not appreciate the “unique” quite so much?

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Oh, is she? From which century?

I'm fairly positive she wasn't on the Mickey Mouse Club in my day, because most of those Mouseketeers are dead now.

She was high school musical…so 2010 issue Disney child actress

I have to admit…I had ZERO clue who she was when she did the red carpet thing last week…was surprised when I saw it later

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

I’m sorry…I have to admit this song is still a guilty pleasure

 

[DKampy]

I watched Poor Things (that movie that people here have been talking about all the time). I love Emma Stone, but this movie was atrocious, the only word that describes this movie perfectly that I can think about is DEPRAVED. Mark Ruffalo is annoying, I can't see him on my screen anymore.
For some odd reason people compared this film to Barbie. One thing that should be clear to anyone by merely watching the two is that Barbie was made by a woman and Poor Things was clearly not. Barbie should have won Costumes and Production Design.

I am not going to criticize you, as you at least watched it…and we are all entitled to opinions… all film is subjective… but IMO I did not find Poor Things depraved… I also thought it earned it’s production design Oscar( although I would not have been upset if Barbie won)

 

[DKampy]

I’ve seen comparisons with Barbie in commentaries that discuss them both as feminist films.

“Depraved” seems a curious description to me also (though at least he’s actually watched it).

Yes I have seen some critics calling it the art house Barbie… I am not sure I agree as that sort of Diminishes both movies

 

[TalkingHead]

It simply means both films advance a feminist/anti-patriarchal message by showing the self-actualization of the lead women. Different tones, obviously, but the similarities are undeniable. It’s gotta be one of the reasons Barbie became such an also-ran during awards season. Voters could reward a similar message without having to endorse the ick of Mattel Films (again, ick).

 

[Ayla]

Oppenheimer is/was as well?

Plenty of movies can be performing well post Oscar Bumps on both.

Like, plenty of Oscar wins back in the day we're at rental locations before streaming services and theaters would still see bumps.

On the recent discussion here of Inside out 2:
Inside out 2 is brining in too many new characters is my takeaway(only going by the trailer thus far besides losing important voice actors from cast)
Box office will definitely be interesting with animation being on a rise for some studios and hurting badly for others.

Oppenheimer has been on Peacock for weeks.

 

[celluloid]

Oppenheimer has been on Peacock for weeks.

Yep.

 

[celluloid]

Yes I have seen some critics calling it the art house Barbie… I am not sure I agree as that sort of Diminishes both movies

It's human nature to look for patterns.
And also use trends.
Like the classic "It is this meets," or "This in space." Sometimes it is an oversimplification and sometimes it can genuinely come close to describing a timeless theme.
The same way Avatar is Dances with Wolves in Space.
It can quickly describe a successful film and the theme of falling in love with the enemy with science fiction setting.

 

[DKampy]

Poor Things director Yorgos Lanthimos is reuniting with Emma Stone in Kind of Kindness on June 21 for searchlight Pictures

The summer date is curious as usually his films are award season plays

 

[TP2000]

She starred in all the High School Musical movies from almost a decade ago.

I never watched any of those movies but I at least know about them as I follow Disney. This just shows even more how much you really don’t follow anything to do with this company.

Yeah, I'm obviously totally uninterested in the Walt Disney Company, especially their theme parks. I've been on this website for 20 years and have posted 26,000 messages. I'm still trying to figure out why.

She was high school musical…so 2010 issue Disney child actress

I have to admit…I had ZERO clue who she was when she did the red carpet thing last week…was surprised when I saw it later

Oh, was she in that TV movie? Like most here, I never watched those Disney Channel movies aimed at 12 year old girls, but I really enjoyed that High School Musical street show they did at DCA! It was terribly upbeat and fun and catchy!

I guess I just forgot the show was called the "Vanessa Hudgens Street Party Celebration!"

 

[Disney Irish]

Yeah, I'm obviously totally uninterested in the Walt Disney Company, especially their theme parks. I've been on this website for 20 years and have posted 26,000 messages. I'm still trying to figure out why.

Sarcasm aside, you would think that as someone who claims to follow Disney as much as you do you would at least know more about the company. Basically its just telling that you obviously know nothing about the Studios side after circa 1975.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

This century of course. She starred in all the High School Musical movies from almost a decade ago.

I never watched any of those movies but I at least know about them as I follow Disney. This just shows even more how much you really don’t follow anything to do with this company.

You were doing so well recently until this…

TP has probably the best take on the box office kerfluffel of anyone here…
Especially when many brought in nonsense excuses in an effort to avoid just reading the room over what has been happening. Disney isn’t producing wanted content to the level they need and we expect. That doesn’t mean you’re signing on a political statement by recognizing the truth. Some things are what they are and need to be addressed or the business world will have final judgement without asking Disney’s permission for it.

 

[TP2000]

Sarcasm aside, you would think that as someone who claims to follow Disney as much as you do you would at least know more about the company. Basically its just telling that you obviously know nothing about the Studios side after circa 1975.

I beg your pardon! Herbie Goes Bananas was released in 1980 (and I saw it!), so I've advanced far beyond '75!

 

[Disney Irish]

I beg your pardon! Herbie Goes Bananas was from 1980, so I've advanced far beyond '75!

Yay, 5 Years! Lets party.

Now if you could only expand to Disney content made this century.

 

[Chi84]

Sarcasm aside, you would think that as someone who claims to follow Disney as much as you do you would at least know more about the company. Basically its just telling that you obviously know nothing about the Studios side after circa 1975.

How many times does someone have to prove they know nothing before people actually believe them?

 

[TP2000]

This century of course. She starred in all the High School Musical movies from almost a decade ago.

I had to Google, just to prove I wasn't going crazy... The High School Musical movies on Disney Channel that Vanessa Hudgens (AKA "household name!") was in were more than a decade ago. The series started 18 years ago in January, 2006.

The first TV movie released in '06 was a surprise hit with its tween-aged girl demographic. A second TV movie was released in 2007, and Disney Channel ended it with High School Musical 3 in 2008. They were easy turn-n-burn TV movies, but were wildly popular with young girls.

The High School Musical Pep Rally stage show, which I do remember watching with my tween aged nephews at the time and I remember it being distinctly catch and fun, debuted at Disney's California Adventure in October, 2006.

The name "Vanessa Hudgens" was never used in the theme park stage show.

 

[Prince-1]

You were doing so well recently until this…

TP has probably the best take on the box office kerfluffel of anyone here…
Especially when many brought in nonsense excuses in an effort of just reading the room over what has been happening. Disney isn’t producing wanted content to the level they need and we expect. That doesn’t mean you’re signing on a political statement by recognizing the truth. Some things are what they are and need to be addressed or the business world will have final judgement without asking Disney’s permission for it.

You seriously need to slow down on the booze or the weed if you think TP has any clue about anything movie related. The only thing he is good at is discussing movies he has never seen.

 

[Disney Irish]

You were doing so well recently until this…

TP has probably the best take on the box office kerfluffel of anyone here…
Especially when many brought in nonsense excuses in an effort of just reading the room over what has been happening. Disney isn’t producing wanted content to the level they need and we expect. That doesn’t mean you’re signing on a political statement by recognizing the truth. Some things are what they are and need to be addressed or the business world will have final judgement without asking Disney’s permission for it.

I'm pretty sure that we all acknowledge that Disney isn't having the box office success that we expect. That doesn't mean we all agree on the quality of that content that was released.

But whether fair or not, the fact is that TP hasn't watch Disney content or really much of anything past the Reagan administration. And it shows in what is presented and the discussions being had.