Disney (and others) at the Box Office - Current State of Affairs

[Casper Gutman]

I recently watching it on Paramount+ myself because I didn't think my wife would be interested, but once I got the end I realized that she would have enjoyed even though she knows nothing about D&D.

Yup. Paramount really wants to get the IP off the ground, so we might see a sequel just because of that. I sure hope so. But it’s failure kind of destroys the idea that what audiences want is universally acclaimed films with cinematically fresh IPs (no one in the general audience remembers the last D&D film).

I’ve been bemoaning the rise of toy-based movies and 90s style wink-nudge self-mocking comedies, but the worst fallout of Barbie’s success by far is that EVERY studio is going to try desperately to make their films a trendy meme, which will be… insufferable.

 

[TP2000]

First weekday box office numbers are now out for the new slate of movies not from Disney, or that Disney refused to release themselves.

So where will Haunted Mansion slot into this scenario this weekend? And what does this new box office bonanza of Americans rushing back to the theaters to see non-Disney movies put Disney's summer tentpoles by Labor Day? The answer doesn't seem to be good for any of Disney's big studios...

Domestic Box Office - Monday, July 24th, 2023

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[Hawkeye_2018]

Rumor mill says that Disney may delay opening several movies that were scheduled for fall. Searchlight’s Poor Things, which was dated early Sept, has been moved to Dec. Wish is one of the titles rumored to be pushed back. Interesting that holding back Marvels doesn’t seem to be a consideration.

Disney Delays Release Date Of Poor Things, Considering Delays For 3 More 2023 Releases

This includes Poor Things and Wish.

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its already been moved once. it's currently in it's best possible position schedule wise to have success

 

[TalkingHead]

its already been moved once. it's currently in it's best possible position schedule wise to have success

If the strike is still on in November, it will also provide a useful excuse if the movie underperforms.

 

[Tha Realest]

If the strike is still on in November, it will also provide a useful excuse if the movie underperforms.

“We lost a bunch of money because Brie Larson couldn’t go on The Tonight Show.”

 

[Disney Analyst]

Not solely Disney related but...




Logically you think it would be better for the studios to hammer out a deal with SAG/AFTRA rather then push back releases...

 

[wtyy21]

Not solely Disney related but...




Logically you think it would be better for the studios to hammer out a deal with SAG/AFTRA rather then push back releases...

It could potientially clash with Snow White and Elio if Dune Part Two release date delayed.
Also i believe SAG/AFTRA will continue to strike until they was forced by the federal government to stop it and dissolve the union giving the damage of the strike for Hollywood's industry

 

[BuddyThomas]

Mark Ruffalo Urges Actors to ‘Jump Into Indie’ Film, Exit the ‘Empire of Billionaires’ at Studios

Marvel star Mark Ruffalo tweeted that actors should go indie to steer profits away from large studios amid the WGA and SAG strikes.

www.indiewire.com

 

[Tha Realest]

Mark Ruffalo Urges Actors to ‘Jump Into Indie’ Film, Exit the ‘Empire of Billionaires’ at Studios

Marvel star Mark Ruffalo tweeted that actors should go indie to steer profits away from large studios amid the WGA and SAG strikes.

www.indiewire.com

There goes the solo Hulk film, which is no great loss as he’s arguably the worst Hulk

 

[BuddyThomas]

There goes the solo Hulk film, which is no great loss as he’s arguably the worst Hulk

He's also very rude. We were at a Broadway opening night party and my partner and him were washing their hands in the bathroom at the same time, and my partner said something like "Hi, I love your work.", and Ruffalo just rolled his eyes and exited without a word.

 

[TalkingHead]

Not solely Disney related but...




Logically you think it would be better for the studios to hammer out a deal with SAG/AFTRA rather then push back releases...

If Dune gets moved to next year, which was originally opening a week before The Marvels, it makes sense why Disney isn’t moving it. May benefit from the uncrowded lineup.

 

[Tha Realest]

He's also very rude. We were at a Broadway opening night party and my partner and him were washing their hands in the bathroom at the same time, and my partner said something like "Hi, I love your work.", and Ruffalo just rolled his eyes and exited without a word.

I hate hearing that about anyone, let alone stars or people a lot of other people admire. Sorry that happened to your partner.

 

[BuddyThomas]

Well!!!

‘Barbie’ Scores Best-Ever Monday for Warner Bros. With $26 Million, Overtaking ‘The Dark Knight’

Come on, Barbie, let's go make (more) box office history.

variety.com

All the Barbie showings were either sold out or close to sold out tonight when I went to see Theatre Camp at AMC Times Square. What's Theatre Camp? Well.....this!

 

[DKampy]

Well!!!

‘Barbie’ Scores Best-Ever Monday for Warner Bros. With $26 Million, Overtaking ‘The Dark Knight’

Come on, Barbie, let's go make (more) box office history.

variety.com

All the Barbie showings were either sold out or close to sold out tonight when I went to see Theatre Camp at AMC Times Square. What's Theatre Camp? Well.....this!

Yeah…I saw the trailer for Theater Camp a couple of weeks ago… looks hilarious… I been hoping the film expands to a theater near me

 

[Disney Analyst]

Paramount has an animation division?

 

[MisterPenguin]

Paramount has an animation division?

Russia, once the sixth-biggest market for films, has been closed off following its invasion of Ukraine.​

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More consequential, China, which rivals the United States in ticket sales, has become an unreliable source of revenue for Hollywood films. That’s largely due to rising geopolitical tensions with the U.S. In the case of “Rise of the Beasts,” the film grossed $90 million from China, half of what Paramount anticipated. “China is a different marketplace,” says Weinstock. “You can’t count on it for a big number anymore, so everyone needs to reevaluate their budgets.”​

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Most summer movies carry staggering price tags. During COVID, many of these productions saw costs escalate by tens of millions of dollars. And though pandemic shutdowns have eased, inflation makes it hard to economize. How, I wonder, will Robbins and his team make cheaper movies?​

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“It’s no one’s fault,” says Robbins. “COVID and inflation took the $100 million movies and made them cost $200 million. But movie tickets didn’t go from $12 to $24.​

 

[Casper Gutman]

Paramount has an animation division?

They made Rango, one of the best animated films of the last two decades… and then never followed up on that promise.

Some of the SpongeBob movies are fun, but those will keep coming.

 

[mary2013]

As much as I’m doing my best to be patient, but last night I was keep searching on the web and Twitter or X to see if those executives or the AMPTP to see if they negotiate and end the double strike next month. I kind of found a tweet saying there’s a chance that both the strikes might end next month or two, but when I ask the user that if there’s a chance that Disney will negotiate too, and then that user block me, and I got very upset. And then I keep searching and start having meltdown, because I want those two strikes to end. But then I watch some Disney cartoons to calm me down and I feel better. Like I said, I’m trying to be patient, but I’m very scared for Wish and future movies, and I keep giving up hope from time to time and I wish Bob Iger never said those things about them.

The studios don't negotiate directly with the unions. The AMPTP represents the studios and deals with the unions.

 

[Disney Analyst]

They made Rango, one of the best animated films of the last two decades… and then never followed up on that promise.

Some of the SpongeBob movies are fun, but those will keep coming.

Ah, never saw Rango.

 

[TsWade2]

The studios don't negotiate directly with the unions. The AMPTP represents the studios and deals with the unions.

Yes, except that the actors we're ready to make a negotiation with AMPTP, but those self centered knuckleheads decline that. Now I don't know if there's any hope that this writers and actors strike will ever end. Good Lord, I need to stop saying that.