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CinematicFusion

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Please don’t drag garbage Outrage Machine Twitter accounts into this thread.

And perhaps consider why this clip is “all over internet.”
We live in a small tiny bubble on this message board, hidden away from what’s happening in the real world… this just hit Newsweek. I want this movie to do well, this is a PR nightmare
 

Casper Gutman

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This is weirdly true to the Captain America character and is something that he would legit say in the comics
Ehhhhh... "Captain America" stands for America as an ideal, a mix of the enlightenment values of the founding and the New Deal liberalism that birthed and developed him. He certainly does not stand for "America" as embodied by any particular administration or even by popular opinion if it runs counter to those fundamental ideals. It's nuanced, and Mackie doesn't express it particularly well here, but it seems to be what he's getting at.
 

AdventureHasAName

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His comments are trending #2 on Twitter right now. Disney's promotional training for their actors has to be the worst in the history of Hollywood ...

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CinematicFusion

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This is weirdly true to the Captain America character and is something that he would legit say in the comics
What Captain America should have said to sell tickets for a Disney flick:

“To me, Captain America represents the best of America, not just the country, but the ideals it aspires to: justice, freedom, equality, and standing up for the little guy. It’sabout the values that inspire hope, here and everywhere.”


Not: “ To me, Captain America represents a lot of things.. and America isn't one of them.”
 

Casper Gutman

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What Captain America should have said to sell tickets for a Disney flick:

“To me, Captain America represents the best of America, not just the country, but the ideals it aspires to: justice, freedom, equality, and standing up for the little guy. It’sabout the values that inspire hope, here and everywhere.”


Not: “ To me, Captain America represents a lot of things.. and America isn't one of them.”
Well, good news, he didn't say what you misleadingly said he said.
 

brideck

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Ehhhhh... "Captain America" stands for America as an ideal, a mix of the enlightenment values of the founding and the New Deal liberalism that birthed and developed him. He certainly does not stand for "America" as embodied by any particular administration or even by popular opinion if it runs counter to those fundamental ideals. It's nuanced, and Mackie doesn't express it particularly well here, but it seems to be what he's getting at.

I do wonder what the question or prompt was that he was responding to here -- I kind of doubt it was an open-ended "What does Captain America represent to you?" question. I'd guess he only brings up "America" specifically because it was part of the framing.

Alas, I can't find any more complete video of yesterday's Rome event anywhere.
 

Disstevefan1

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What Captain America should have said to sell tickets for a Disney flick:

“To me, Captain America represents the best of America, not just the country, but the ideals it aspires to: justice, freedom, equality, and standing up for the little guy. It’sabout the values that inspire hope, here and everywhere.”


Not: “ To me, Captain America represents a lot of things.. and America isn't one of them.”
I would say you should work for Disney but I would not want them to destroy and replace your brain.
 

CinematicFusion

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This actor should then have said, "If you asked Captain America, he would say, Captain America represents a lot of things.. and America isn't one of them."
Should have said: “To me, Captain America represents the best of America, not just the country, but the ideals it aspires to: justice, freedom, equality, and standing up for the little guy. it’s about the values that inspire hope, here and everywhere.”
 

LittleBuford

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I do wonder what the question or prompt was that he was responding to here -- I kind of doubt it was an open-ended "What does Captain America represent to you?" question. I'd guess he only brings up "America" specifically because it was part of the framing.

Alas, I can't find any more complete video of yesterday's Rome event anywhere.
Here is a longer recording I found:



The question is asked at 55 seconds in, but I don’t know Italian and so can’t understand what she’s saying.
 

DKampy

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His comments are trending #2 on Twitter right now. Disney's promotional training for their actors has to be the worst in the history of Hollywood ...
Disney also has a bunch of people online whose goal is to destroy Disney….who scan the internet with a fine tooth comb and pick apart anything that could fit their narrative
 

AdventureHasAName

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Disney also has a bunch of people online whose goal is to destroy Disney….who scan the internet with a fine tooth comb and pick apart anything that could fit their narrative
I didn't "scan" the internet. I opened twitter and there was a bunch of conversation, then I came here to this Disney message board (to see if people were talking about it) and it was the first thread on the "new posts" page. People are obviously discussing it.
 

CinematicFusion

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I didn't "scan" the internet. I opened twitter and there was a bunch of conversation, then I came here to this Disney message board (to see if people were talking about it) and it was the first thread on the "new posts" page. People are obviously discussing it.
I take responsibility—I posted what I saw being discussed on Twitter, Newsweek, and TMZ, and I was shocked by it. So, I shared the news here. Now, Casper is attacking me for sharing it.

I think it’s clear that it’s best not to share any questionable or controversial information about Disney on this small board of 15 people. Moving forward, I’ll stick to posting positive news only here.
 

LittleBuford

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I take responsibility—I posted what I saw being discussed on Twitter, Newsweek, and TMZ, and I was shocked by it. So, I shared the news here. Now, Casper is attacking me for sharing it.

I think it’s clear that it’s best not to share any questionable or controversial information about Disney on this small board of 15 people. Moving forward, I’ll stick to posting positive news only here.
I ask this sincerely: Why were you shocked by it?
 

Disstevefan1

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Disney also has a bunch of people online whose goal is to destroy Disney….who scan the internet with a fine tooth comb and pick apart anything that could fit their narrative
When I was in high school, they started the school's first football program.

In the locker room our coach told us there are faculty, staff, students and parents who did not want football here. He described them as vultures just waiting for a reason, any reason, to shut down the program and that we, the players that represent the football program must be careful not to give them anything they can use against us, to act, look, talk, be the best we can inside and out side school so they have nothing to use.

Disney need to coach their talent better.
 

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