BuddyThomas
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Has anyone stumbled upon the Imagineering Movie Discussion Thread? It is like the Bizzaro World version of what goes on in here, in case anyone saw the Bizzaro World Seinfeld episode. 
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Disney (and others) at the Box Office - Current State of Affairs
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Sirwalterraleigh
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You mean a year of making excuses for flops nobody watched was NOT the bizarro version?Has anyone stumbled upon the Imagineering Movie Discussion Thread? It is like the Bizzaro World version of what goes on in here, in case anyone saw the Bizzaro World Seinfeld episode.
Chi84
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Where are the grumpy old men? Oh wait . .Has anyone stumbled upon the Imagineering Movie Discussion Thread? It is like the Bizzaro World version of what goes on in here, in case anyone saw the Bizzaro World Seinfeld episode.
BuddyThomas
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I usually agree with you and I canāt tell if your post is sarcasm or not, but Olivia Wilde has proved that she is a good director, and if Margot Robbie is in, Iām there. I must admit that I donāt know the source material.
Sirwalterraleigh
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Who you calling āoldā, sister?
ā¦and weāre all drinking our way around the world with the money we saved from not watching stinkers in the theater last year
Casper Gutman
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Iād have to go into detail about 90s comic, but suffice it to say that Liefeld is a punchline among comic aficionados for embodying all the worst excesses of the era and Avangelyne is the worst of Liefeld. It has no modern following and is now best known for this cover
Which is a common punchline, shorthand for āabysmal comic art.ā
This is a Hollywood that doesnāt understand comics desperately grabbing any property with no insight.
Disney Irish
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Well he did create Deadpool, so if nothing else I'll thank him for that. As for the rest I say, eh. I'll probably avoid it.
Casper Gutman
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He created a ripoff of DCs Deathstroke named Deadpool who bore almost no resemblance to the modern character. The humor, meta-commentary, everything that made Deadpool work, came from other, later creators.
(I know you almost certainly know this. Just emphasizing for the less comic literate.)
Disney Irish
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Yep I'm aware. And honestly I always preferred Deadpool to Deathstroke.
As someone who has seen every episode of Seinfeld too many times(my fav comedy series)ā¦ I had to check it outā¦ and you werenāt kiddingā¦ I got a good chuckle out of thatHas anyone stumbled upon the Imagineering Movie Discussion Thread? It is like the Bizzaro World version of what goes on in here, in case anyone saw the Bizzaro World Seinfeld episode.
BuddyThomas
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BuddyThomas
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This is a fun discussion. EDIT - I just notice it has a couple of curse words in it. Proceed with your own caution. It's rated PG-13, and it is still hysterical.
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TalkingHead
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Saw it was posted in other individual threads but for those keeping track generally:
SW Mandalorian movie in May 2026
Toy Story 5 in June 2026
Live-action Moana in July 2026
The stacking of those three summer releases in 2026 seems curious. Is that to increase the odds that one or two hit big?
Oh, and saw theyāre releasing four(!!) Marvel titles next year. (Four?!) Seems like a huge gamble. Zootopia 2 and Avatar 3 too, so not a quiet year.
SW Mandalorian movie in May 2026
Toy Story 5 in June 2026
Live-action Moana in July 2026
The stacking of those three summer releases in 2026 seems curious. Is that to increase the odds that one or two hit big?
Oh, and saw theyāre releasing four(!!) Marvel titles next year. (Four?!) Seems like a huge gamble. Zootopia 2 and Avatar 3 too, so not a quiet year.
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TP2000
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Hi gang, box office is out for Thursday previewing this upcoming weekend. The First Omen previewed in 6th place.
Luca looks like it has now ended it box office run (I can't find tickets anywhere in the desert Southwest today), and made a total box office take of $1,324,302 for its re-release.
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www.the-numbers.com
Luca looks like it has now ended it box office run (I can't find tickets anywhere in the desert Southwest today), and made a total box office take of $1,324,302 for its re-release.
The Numbers - Daily Box Office Chart for Thursday November 21, 2024
Daily Domestic Box Office Chart for Thursday November 21, 2024
www.the-numbers.com
TP2000
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You can't just blame those deplorable Americans.
While it is factually true (and blatantly so) that Wish bombed at the US box office, the bomb-status of Wish was not exclusively a US phenomenon. Compared to its recent competition, Wish also bombed badly in many overseas markets. A few notable overseas examples of the failure of Wish at the box office that can't be explained away "Because it is on trend by a certain group in this country to hate on Disney"...
Overseas Box Office Data as of 4/4/24 Cherry Picked Like a Bushel of Fresh Rainier Cherries in June
Mexico & Central America: Wish = $5.3 Million, Migration = $11.4 Million
United Kingdom: Wish = $16.5 Million, Migration = $25.3 Million
Germany: Wish = $18.5 Million, Migration = $22.1 Million
Switzerland: Wish = $2.5 Million , Migration = $4.5 Million
BeNeLux: Wish = $6.3 Million, Migration = $8.8 Million
And Kung Fu Panda, which has only been in most overseas theaters a few weeks and hasn't even opened yet in a few key countries, is doing overseas box office far higher than that of Wish.
Kung Fu Panda has only been out for 3 weeks in Mexico & the 6 Central American countries, but already has done this...
Mexico & Central America: Wish = $5.3 Million, Kung Fu Panda = $33.1 Million (and still counting)
You can't just blame Americans for the global box office data. You have to blame the entire planet if you're being honest.
Movie Comparison: Kung Fu Panda 4 (2024) vs. Migration (2023) vs. Wish (2023)
Domestic box office comparison between Kung Fu Panda 4 (2024) and Migration (2023) and Wish (2023)
www.the-numbers.com
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As a non comic book guy who is not familiar with the source material, but believes any film can be great if you have the right peopleā¦ this has me interested just with Olivia Wilde directing and Margot Robbie producingā¦ her Lucky Chap production company has a good track record
TP2000
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Variety has now stated The First Omen had a production budget of $30 Million, so we can use that lower figure now confidently. If we assume it had a shoestring global marketing budget of $15 Million, The First Omen will need roughly $90 Million at the global box office to break even.
It's opening weekend is trending well below forecasts, even though it's reviews are good. It will be interesting to see where The First Omen lands for the weekend; will it break $10 Million in its domestic opening weekend?
Box Office: āGodzilla x Kongā Staying on Top, āMonkey Manā Swings Into Second and āThe First Omenā Gets Crossed Up
"Godzilla x Kong" is facing a sharp drop in its second weekend at the box office, but will stay ahead of the openings of "Monkey Man" and "The First Omen."
variety.com
"Landing a less auspicious debut is āThe First Omen,ā which earned $3.2 million across Friday and preview screenings. Projections heading into the weekend had pegged an opening north of $14 million; now, it seems the release from 20th Century Studios (owned by Disney) will be lucky to even hit $10 million."
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Variety has now stated The First Omen had a production budget of $30 Million, so we can use that lower figure now confidently. If we assume it had a shoestring global marketing budget of $15 Million, The First Omen will need roughly $90 Million at the global box office to break even.
It's opening weekend is trending well below forecasts, even though it's reviews are good. It will be interesting to see where The First Omen lands for the weekend; will it break $10 Million in its domestic opening weekend?
Box Office: āGodzilla x Kongā Staying on Top, āMonkey Manā Swings Into Second and āThe First Omenā Gets Crossed Up
"Godzilla x Kong" is facing a sharp drop in its second weekend at the box office, but will stay ahead of the openings of "Monkey Man" and "The First Omen."
"Landing a less auspicious debut is āThe First Omen,ā which earned $3.2 million across Friday and preview screenings. Projections heading into the weekend had pegged an opening north of $14 million; now, it seems the release from 20th Century Studios (owned by Disney) will be lucky to even hit $10 million."
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Comparing other recent Horror releases, the genre that has been a low gamble for some studios and a hit for Universal's legacy in it with most Blumhouse releases...
Uni Blum-Exorcist: Believer opened to 26 million against 30 million budget.
Uni Blum-Night Swim opened to 11 million witha 15 million budget.
Lionsgate Blum- Imaginary opened with 9 million on a 13 million budget.
The first Omen may open just a bit above Night Swim with a 30 million budget.
Casper Gutman
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You seem to have left out the part where Universal spent $400 million to buy the Exorcist IP to make Believer. Sorta feels like thatās relevant.
But yes, First Omen is underperforming. Considering itās very well reviewed, why do you think that is? Itās worth noting that Night Swim and Imaginary also underperformed - has box office chaos finally taken its toll on cheap horror? Monkey Man, which also has great reviews and lots of nerd hype, is falling short of expectations. Meanwhile, Kong x Godzilla, which has miserable reviews and follows a film with disappointing box office returns, is doing gangbusters. If anyone can make sense of the box office, Iād love to hear it.