Disney (and others) at the Box Office - Current State of Affairs

[BuddyThomas]

It's the same chart, just kindly adjusted for inflation since 2018, because you said this...



If you'd like to make your own charts adjusted for inflation, The Numbers site makes it very easy with the "Inflation Adjusted" toggle switch at the top right corner. It's terribly handy when discussing dollar based financials like box office!

Movie Comparison: Poor Things (2023) vs. The Favourite (2018)

Domestic box office comparison between Poor Things (2023) and The Favourite (2018)

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This is so utterly tired. Don’t you have a new Disney movie that you aren’t going to see that you want to start trashing? Maybe The First Omen? Maybe Inside Out 2? Another one? All of them??

 

[TP2000]

This is so utterly tired. Don’t you have a new Disney movie that you aren’t going to see that you want to start trashing? Maybe The First Omen? Maybe Inside Out 2? Another one? All of them??

Using the box office data we can now determine that Poor Things broke even and has now made at least $1 Million at the global box office. That seems to anger you for some reason, instead of being happy about it. Why is that?

 

[TP2000]

How many times are you planning on saying the same thing?

If it helps any, I'll probably mention it again once Poor Things exits theaters later this spring. That way, we could see its final global box office tally in context of its $35 Million production budget and shoestring marketing budget and Oscars Bump.

I mean, what with this being the Disney Box Office thread and all.

 

[DKampy]

Poor Things is a success.

It has now made a $1 Million profit, and may make another few million at the box office in the next few weeks, and may make even more if people rent it on Amazon or something.

Like I said I will stick to the real analysts… I have seen many an article talking about the success of Poor Things not one was written by a Martini loving dog

 

[TP2000]

Like I said I will stick to the real analysts… I have seen many an article talking about the success of Poor Things not one was written by a Martini loving dog

How much did they say it made at the box office?

 

[TP2000]

Mother Dearest once deleted one of my posts for calling him a martini loving dog, even though his picture is clearly that of a martini loving dog.

I've wondered why some of our conversations seem to be missing the posts they are referencing. Surely you can't get a post deleted here for typing the words "martini loving dog", can you? There had to be more to it than that.

And for the record, you don't shake martinis or any cocktail without a dairy or citrus ingredient.

 

[DKampy]

Mother Dearest once deleted one of my posts for calling him a martini loving dog, even though his picture is clearly that of a martini loving dog.

I sometimes don’t get some of the deletions here… when I have seen some disgusting post stay

 

[Chi84]

I sometimes don’t get some of the deletions here… when I have seen some disgusting post stay

Did you report the disgusting post? That could be the difference.

 

[DKampy]

Did you report the disgusting post? That could be the difference.

Could be… I don’t report anything

 

[Chi84]

Could be… I don’t report anything

I can understand that, but I think the mods appreciate reporting posts that are disgusting and violate the TOS.

 

[TP2000]

I can understand that, but I think the mods appreciate reporting posts that are disgusting and violate the TOS.

Do people really do that? Why wouldn't you just tell the person who posts disgusting stuff that you think it's disgusting? i.e. gory topics, overtly sexualized topics, illegal actions, harassing behavior, drunken late night rants (not that I'm opposed to those as they can often be hilarious, but I get many folks are annoyed by them), etc., etc.

I've always assumed the mods were mostly cleaning up spam posts and dumb stuff from robots. I find those more annoying than drunken rants or weird topics.

 

[Wendy Pleakley]

To the surprise of absolutely no one, since it was released on December 8 and we’re now in the middle of March and the film is available for streaming on Hulu. Whether you accept it or not, the movie is a success.

Not to mention that a 6% drop is basically holding steady. This IS an Oscar bump. Every other movie dropped in by more than a third, which is standard.

But some people will spin everything to support their nonsensical narratives.

It's quite obvious that a 6% drop is a good thing for a movie, but some people dig in and look incredibly ignorant by failing to see this basic fact.

Or they know this and are just looking for a new piece of ammo in their bizarre crusade and think no one will notice the gaping holes in their "logic".

 

[Chi84]

Not to mention that a 6% drop is basically holding steady. This IS an Oscar bump. Every other movie dropped in by more than a third, which is standard.

But some people will spin everything to support their nonsensical narratives.

It's quite obvious that a 6% drop is a good thing for a movie, but some people dig in and look incredibly ignorant by failing to see this basic fact.

Or they know this and are just looking for a new piece of ammo in their bizarre crusade and think no one will notice the gaping holes in their "logic".

Or they’re just looking for attention. And they ever come to the right place!

 

[Minnesota disney fan]

I've been following this thread for quite a while, and just want to make a few comments.
I don't understand why some people make rude, sometimes mean, comments about one poster in particular.
This poster, TP2000, goes to the trouble of posting the up to date charts. Some on here then comment rudely and argumentatively about the charts. He also gives those who question the charts where to find them themselves. He has constant rude comments aimed at him and he answers them calmly without arguing.
If someone doesn't like what he says, then just don't read it. It gets irritating to try to follow this thread with all the negative, argumentative comments aimed at him. I've said my piece and won't be on this thread anymore.

 

[TP2000]

It's quite obvious that a 6% drop is a good thing for a movie, but some people dig in and look incredibly ignorant by failing to see this basic fact.

It is? Here is the weekend chart for this past weekend, post Oscars and showing any sort of Oscars Bump.

Poor Things declined 6% from last weekend pre-Oscars, and Oppenheimer increased 171% from last weekend. The dollar figures from this past weekend are not impressive for either film really (which brings me back to my point about how few people watch the Oscars now, and their rapidly diminishing impact on American pop culture), but at least there was a statistically significant Oscars Bump of 171% for the winner of Best Picture.

Comparatively, I'm at a loss to see how a 6% decline is the same as a 171% increase. Because those aren't the same.

The Numbers - Weekend Box Office Chart for August 2, 2024

Weekend Domestic Box Office Chart for the weekend of August 2, 2024

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[TP2000]

I've been following this thread for quite a while, and just want to make a few comments.
I don't understand why some people make rude, sometimes mean, comments about one poster in particular.
This poster, TP2000, goes to the trouble of posting the up to date charts. Some on here then comment rudely and argumentatively about the charts. He also gives those who question the charts where to find them themselves. He has constant rude comments aimed at him and he answers them calmly without arguing.
If someone doesn't like what he says, then just don't read it. It gets irritating to try to follow this thread with all the negative, argumentative comments aimed at him. I've said my piece and won't be on this thread anymore.

Thank you my dear lady. My mom, who was a very kind and gracious woman like you, is smiling down on you and thanking you too.

But please don't be afraid to pop back in here when you've got an interest in a Disney movie's performance later this year, as there are a few movies this summer that will be interesting to watch the market response to (Planet of the Apes 9, Inside Out 2, etc.). The water is warm and the swimming is fine, so dive back in here when you want to!

 

[Disney Irish]

It is? Here is the weekend chart for this past weekend, post Oscars and showing any sort of Oscars Bump.

Poor Things declined 6% from last weekend pre-Oscars, and Oppenheimer increased 171% from last weekend. The dollar figures from this past weekend are not impressive for either film really (which brings me back to my point about how few people watch the Oscars now, and their rapidly diminishing impact on American pop culture), but at least there was a noticeable Oscars Bump of 171% for the winner of Best Picture.

Comparatively, I'm at a loss to see how a 6% decline is the same as a 171% increase. Because those aren't the same.

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The Numbers - Weekend Box Office Chart for August 2, 2024

Weekend Domestic Box Office Chart for the weekend of August 2, 2024

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Oppie increased by almost 700 theaters. So it was going to get a bump over previous weeks. Looking at its per theater average, its actually lower than Poor Things. Either way a 6% decline is basically flat from week to week, meaning overall it didn't fall off compared to others of the same time period which fell 50-60% on average.

 

[TP2000]

Oppie increased by almost 700 theaters. So it was going to get a bump over previous weeks. Looking at its per theater average, its actually lower than Poor Things. Either way a 6% decline is basically flat from week to week, meaning overall it didn't fall off compared to others of the same time period which fell 50-60% on average.

Got it. I just wouldn't call a 6% decline an Oscars Bump.

At least, using the previously significant impact that the Oscars had culturally in the 20th century. But if a 6% decline for a Best Actress award is now a "good thing" in the week after the Oscars, then so be it. But that just strengthens my opinion of how culturally insignificant the Oscars have become; both in the Nielsens and at the Box Office. Who would've thunk it?

 

[Disney Irish]

Got it. I just wouldn't call a 6% decline an Oscars Bump.

At least, using the previously significant impact that the Oscars had culturally in the 20th century. But if a 6% decline for a Best Actress award is now a "good thing" in the week after the Oscars, then so be it. But that just strengthens my opinion of how culturally insignificant the Oscars have become; both in the Nielsens and at the Box Office. Who would've thunk it?

As has been discussed we're in a new era of Hollywood. No longer is just the theatrical the sole factor for everything. So an Oscar bump can be box office, digital rentals/download, and even streaming viewership increases.

 

[brideck]

Got it. I just wouldn't call a 6% decline an Oscars Bump.

At least, using the previously significant impact that the Oscars had culturally in the 20th century. But if a 6% decline for a Best Actress award is now a "good thing" in the week after the Oscars, then so be it. But that just strengthens my opinion of how culturally insignificant the Oscars have become; both in the Nielsens and at the Box Office. Who would've thunk it?

I just really wish you would engage in conversation on this instead of simply flogging your narrative over and over ad nauseum.

Did you have thoughts/comments on my recent post attempting to demonstrate what the Oscars impact looks like at the box office? I even included a pretty chart. A ~$10m boost (and probably twice that again for overseas, because yes, people all over the world care about the Oscars) is nothing to sneeze at. Or do you not think it's weird that most movies are in theaters for 6-10 weeks and somehow here we are with Oscar-nominated movies still in theaters with reasonably high screen counts some 15 weeks later? Must just be a lucky coincidence.