Disney (and others) at the Box Office - Current State of Affairs

Disstevefan1

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Here's how those two movies look when you factor in the 20% inflation of the past few years.

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Using the inflation adjusted dollar figures, here's how that looks when you consider production and marketing dollars.

The Favourite: Production $18, Marketing $10?, USA Box Office Take $24, Overseas B.O. Take $29 = $25 Million Profit
Poor Things:
Production $35, Marketing $15?, USA Box Office Take $20, Overseas B.O. Take $31 = $1 Million Profit
If they are making money instead of losing money, THATS GOOD ENOUGH FOR ME! I don't care what movie it is - see Five Nights at Freddy's.
 

DKampy

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Here's how those two movies look when you factor in the 20% inflation of the past few years.

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Using the inflation adjusted dollar figures, here's how that looks when you consider production and marketing dollars.

The Favourite: Production $18, Marketing $10?, USA Box Office Take $24, Overseas B.O. Take $29 = $25 Million Profit
Poor Things:
Production $35, Marketing $15?, USA Box Office Take $20, Overseas B.O. Take $31 = $1 Million Profit
I am sorry but I will listen to the professional analysts… Poor Things is a success
 

brideck

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Here's how those two movies look when you factor in the 20% inflation of the past few years.

Why on Earth did we need a chart to demonstrate something I already pointed out in my post.

We could trade charts all day. Here's ticket sales of the two movies plotted against a 3rd line that is The Favourite * 68% (the average post-pandemic reduction in box office ticket sales), which is why I said that Poor Things overperformed given the current environment.

Note: Earlier simple analysis in this thread showed that the drop-off in ticket sales is actually worse for limited/art theater releases than it is with the overall box office.

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TP2000

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Why on Earth did we need a chart to demonstrate something I already pointed out in my post.

It's the same chart, just kindly adjusted for inflation since 2018, because you said this...

Obviously, this isn't true when you take inflation into account.

If you'd like to make your own charts adjusted for inflation, The Numbers site makes it very easy with the "Inflation Adjusted" toggle switch at the top right corner. It's terribly handy when discussing dollar based financials like box office! :)

 

BuddyThomas

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It's the same chart, just kindly adjusted for inflation since 2018, because you said this...



If you'd like to make your own charts adjusted for inflation, The Numbers site makes it very easy with the "Inflation Adjusted" toggle switch at the top right corner. It's terribly handy when discussing dollar based financials like box office! :)

This is so utterly tired. Don’t you have a new Disney movie that you aren’t going to see that you want to start trashing? Maybe The First Omen? Maybe Inside Out 2? Another one? All of them??
 

TP2000

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This is so utterly tired. Don’t you have a new Disney movie that you aren’t going to see that you want to start trashing? Maybe The First Omen? Maybe Inside Out 2? Another one? All of them??

Using the box office data we can now determine that Poor Things broke even and has now made at least $1 Million at the global box office. That seems to anger you for some reason, instead of being happy about it. Why is that?
 

TP2000

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How many times are you planning on saying the same thing?

If it helps any, I'll probably mention it again once Poor Things exits theaters later this spring. That way, we could see its final global box office tally in context of its $35 Million production budget and shoestring marketing budget and Oscars Bump.

I mean, what with this being the Disney Box Office thread and all. 🧐
 

DKampy

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Poor Things is a success.

It has now made a $1 Million profit, and may make another few million at the box office in the next few weeks, and may make even more if people rent it on Amazon or something. :)
Like I said I will stick to the real analysts… I have seen many an article talking about the success of Poor Things not one was written by a Martini loving dog
 

TP2000

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Mother Dearest once deleted one of my posts for calling him a martini loving dog, even though his picture is clearly that of a martini loving dog.

I've wondered why some of our conversations seem to be missing the posts they are referencing. Surely you can't get a post deleted here for typing the words "martini loving dog", can you? There had to be more to it than that. 🤔

And for the record, you don't shake martinis or any cocktail without a dairy or citrus ingredient.
 

TP2000

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I can understand that, but I think the mods appreciate reporting posts that are disgusting and violate the TOS.

Do people really do that? Why wouldn't you just tell the person who posts disgusting stuff that you think it's disgusting? i.e. gory topics, overtly sexualized topics, illegal actions, harassing behavior, drunken late night rants (not that I'm opposed to those as they can often be hilarious, but I get many folks are annoyed by them), etc., etc.

I've always assumed the mods were mostly cleaning up spam posts and dumb stuff from robots. I find those more annoying than drunken rants or weird topics.
 

Wendy Pleakley

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To the surprise of absolutely no one, since it was released on December 8 and we’re now in the middle of March and the film is available for streaming on Hulu. Whether you accept it or not, the movie is a success.

Not to mention that a 6% drop is basically holding steady. This IS an Oscar bump. Every other movie dropped in by more than a third, which is standard.

But some people will spin everything to support their nonsensical narratives.

It's quite obvious that a 6% drop is a good thing for a movie, but some people dig in and look incredibly ignorant by failing to see this basic fact.

Or they know this and are just looking for a new piece of ammo in their bizarre crusade and think no one will notice the gaping holes in their "logic".
 

Chi84

Premium Member
Not to mention that a 6% drop is basically holding steady. This IS an Oscar bump. Every other movie dropped in by more than a third, which is standard.

But some people will spin everything to support their nonsensical narratives.

It's quite obvious that a 6% drop is a good thing for a movie, but some people dig in and look incredibly ignorant by failing to see this basic fact.

Or they know this and are just looking for a new piece of ammo in their bizarre crusade and think no one will notice the gaping holes in their "logic".
Or they’re just looking for attention. And they ever come to the right place!
 

Minnesota disney fan

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I've been following this thread for quite a while, and just want to make a few comments.
I don't understand why some people make rude, sometimes mean, comments about one poster in particular.
This poster, TP2000, goes to the trouble of posting the up to date charts. Some on here then comment rudely and argumentatively about the charts. He also gives those who question the charts where to find them themselves. He has constant rude comments aimed at him and he answers them calmly without arguing.
If someone doesn't like what he says, then just don't read it. It gets irritating to try to follow this thread with all the negative, argumentative comments aimed at him. I've said my piece and won't be on this thread anymore.
 

TP2000

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It's quite obvious that a 6% drop is a good thing for a movie, but some people dig in and look incredibly ignorant by failing to see this basic fact.

It is? Here is the weekend chart for this past weekend, post Oscars and showing any sort of Oscars Bump.

Poor Things declined 6% from last weekend pre-Oscars, and Oppenheimer increased 171% from last weekend. The dollar figures from this past weekend are not impressive for either film really (which brings me back to my point about how few people watch the Oscars now, and their rapidly diminishing impact on American pop culture), but at least there was a statistically significant Oscars Bump of 171% for the winner of Best Picture.

Comparatively, I'm at a loss to see how a 6% decline is the same as a 171% increase. Because those aren't the same.

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