Disney (and others) at the Box Office - Current State of Affairs

Disstevefan1

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Their business is based on this criteria. Artistic merits are great, but it alone does not keep a company in business.

Walt understood this, "We make money to make more movies."

If you don't make money on any of your art, you can't continue.
They have the Theme parks, cruise lines and maybe merch. and DVC to make the money ;)
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celluloid

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I just sold a house for the six highest price in my neighborhood of people selling their houses.

My house is a mansion on a hill that I paid twice the amount for than most other houses are valued around me and in some cases five times the amount of houses around me.

You can see the issue that sixth best in this case is terrible.
 

Disstevefan1

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I just sold a house for the six highest price in my neighborhood of people selling their houses.

My house is a mansion on a hill that I paid twice the amount for than most other houses are valued around me and in some cases five times the amount of houses around me.

You can see the issue that sixth best in this case is terrible.
The biggest house in the neighborhood never get its true value.
Whats that real estate rule? Buy the worst house in the best neighborhood.
 

Animaniac93-98

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Charts with Dan this week brought up a couple of things that I thought were relevant here.

Studios don't make any less money from AMC or Cineplex's subscription programs. They get the same cut regardless and if you go see 5 movies in a month, the theater chains eat that cost hoping you buy concessions to make up for it. Conversely, if you only go once in a month, than that's extra money for them too. They probably get a lot of people who pay up front for the subscription and then don't use it as much as they thought (just like streaming services).

That same Matt Damon interview about mid-budget movies and DVD sales was also brought up and an explanation was given about how the studios have basically killed much of their own revenue generators for the sake of streaming, which has not been the business most expected. No one knows how to fix it, but the first person who does will be very successful.
 

Minnesota disney fan

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Who knew I was ahead of my time? ;) I've always felt better owning my favorites in physical format. I also don't want anyone making alterations to digital copies I own.
Us too. We have an extensive library of films on DVD that we watch when we want. I can't really see the DVD's going the way of the dinosaurs. I think too many people like them and will buy them, even though we have streaming and other sources for movies.
 

_caleb

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I'm fascinated that so many of you still buy/watch physical disks! It's honestly been 15 years since I used a DVD. I have questions:
  • How do you guys watch DVDs on your iPads?
  • Do you also subscribe to D+ and other streaming services?
  • Do you need to polish/buff scratches out of the disks?
  • Do you carry them in a big folio case like we used to?
  • Do you have a DVD player for each TV in your home?
Obviously the announcement that Best Buy is going to stop carrying DVDs is a result of audience behavior, but I truly had no idea that some of us were still DVD devotees.
 

Tony the Tigger

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I’ve been surprised recently by how many here have indicated that they still buy DVDs and Blu-Ray disks. I know some have been burned by losing access to movies they bought through streaming platforms, but I haven’t even thought about DVDs in a long time.

Sounds like there will be one fewer places to pick up that Disney DVD with FastPlay (which always seemed to do the opposite of what it seemed like it should do).

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More business for local record stores.
They will stay dead like 8-track tapes and cassettes.
Highly unlikely.
 

Tony the Tigger

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LOL. Ok, sure. Warner Bros. Records only cared about the artistic freedom and the chart number they could brag about. Making money was a distant third in their care, just as all major companies operate. I worked in music, you are way off. Money was the ONLY thing they considered. Chart success is something the artist would be happy about (as they make very little money off their album sales, their money comes from the touring/merch, or at least that's how it was 20 years ago), that is not the measure the studio would use.

If you want to specify chart success (which you did NOT specify originally), then #6 would qualify for that most likely, but that does not mean the studio considers that song/album an overall success, which was my entire point.
Keep twisting yourself up. I own two record stores. I know what sells, I have relationships with the labels, I have AP credit on a few albums.

Any kind of success breeds opportunity. If they have an artist who lost money on a hit single, all they have to do is have them duplicate it for themselves and others. Try and deny that with a straight face.
 

Tony the Tigger

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Bets on them making a comeback sort of like records have?
They don’t need a comeback; they need to hold, and make adjustments.

They’ll do quite well as a hobby market, just like records, baseball cards, etc. They’re not for everyone; but they can support tons of businesses.

By adjustments, I mean focus on high quality, special pressings, special packaging, etc. Think “deluxe.”
 

drizgirl

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I'm fascinated that so many of you still buy/watch physical disks! It's honestly been 15 years since I used a DVD. I have questions:
  • How do you guys watch DVDs on your iPads?
  • Do you also subscribe to D+ and other streaming services?
  • Do you need to polish/buff scratches out of the disks?
  • Do you carry them in a big folio case like we used to?
  • Do you have a DVD player for each TV in your home?
Obviously the announcement that Best Buy is going to stop carrying DVDs is a result of audience behavior, but I truly had no idea that some of us were still DVD devotees.
1) Don't watch on iPads. Watch on TVs in our home.
2) Don't subscribe to D+. Why bother when I own most of the Disney content I want? We do subscribe to Netflix and have cable.
3) Haven't needed to polish/buff. We don't watch any individual one too frequently
4) No big folio. Each is kept in its original case on shelves.
5) DVD players in the living room and one in my sewing room. They're cheap, less than $30 now so easy to have more than one.
 

TP2000

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Box Office is now in from yesterday, and it was a day to remember. Mark your calendars, gang... Because Tuesday, January 2nd, 2024 was the day that Migration made more at the domestic box office than Wish. (Wish had already been beaten at the global box office by Trolls and Wonka.)

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As if that weren't enough for January 2nd, it was also the same day that Aquaman beat The Marvels at the domestic box office. Aquaman had already beaten The Marvels in overseas markets, because the foreigners really did not like The Marvels so it was a low bar for Aquaman to reach from the foreigners.

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TP2000

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I'm fascinated that so many of you still buy/watch physical disks! It's honestly been 15 years since I used a DVD. I have questions:

I'll play! I love pop quizzes.

How do you guys watch DVDs on your iPads?
I don't. That's like asking how you watch DVDs on your phone.
Do you also subscribe to D+ and other streaming services?
I don't subscribe to Disney+, but I do subscribe to a few others on occasion, for one or two months at a time. And I get Amazon Prime TV for "free" because of my Prime membership, and watch stuff from that service occasionally.
Do you need to polish/buff scratches out of the disks?
I now find myself being far more careful when I take the discs out of the cases, because it's harder to replace them if I damage the disc. I have never polished or buffed them though. But then, I also don't use them as coasters.
Do you carry them in a big folio case like we used to?
No. That seems... weird. I keep them in four fabric boxes I bought at Target, and the boxes are behind sliding tambour doors in a lovingly restored Danish modern credenza in my family room. There's also a box of DVD's in the garage that I need to sort through.
Do you have a DVD player for each TV in your home?
No, there's no DVD player for the TV's in the guest rooms or in the kitchen. But when I bought this home in '22 it came with a "media upgrade package" from the builder with built-in HDMI and fiber ports in the walls, and that made it easy to add BluRay players to feed into the large TV's I had installed in the family room and master bedroom. The formal living room has no TV, because my mother up in heaven would smite me down from above if I did that.
Obviously the announcement that Best Buy is going to stop carrying DVDs is a result of audience behavior, but I truly had no idea that some of us were still DVD devotees.

A decade ago I would have assumed they were going the way of the Dodo bird. But now that I've learned I can't trust the streaming companies to always have my favorite movies available to me, or that some movies may be deemed socially unacceptable for sale or viewing (Breakfast at Tiffany's, for example), I now am careful to keep my BluRays and DVD's in a safe place and use them carefully. I can't trust that non-PC stuff like Guess Who's Coming To Dinner will be available in the future.
 
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CinematicFusion

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I dont understand why "no longer straight white Christians" are brought into the conversation. That's lowkey trying to turn it political.
The 2021 Hollywood Diversity Report does not specifically mention or provide statistics regarding the representation of straight white Christians in the film industry. The report primarily focuses on the representation of women, people of color, and other underrepresented groups in various roles within the film industry. It offers insights into the progress and challenges related to gender and racial diversity in Hollywood, particularly in the context of lead actors, total cast, writers, directors, and film budgets. For more detailed information, you can view the full report on UCLA’s newsroom here.
 

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