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Disney (and others) at the Box Office - Current State of Affairs

Phroobar

Well-Known Member
Up until recently anime had a niche following, and mostly outside the US. Even then very few have been a box office "success".

Heavy Metal was adult, so had a limited audience and failed at the box office.

Iron Giant failed at the box office.
Mega Mind made $321million.
Monsters vs Aliens made $381 million.
 

Disney Irish

Premium Member
They weren't released in the states. They were brought over by Disney on DVD in eight years ago.

Castle in the Sky made $20million in 1986.
And when finally released into the US its only made $524K in its lifetime, this is even after all the animefests over the years -

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That $20M was outside the US. These are not popular products for the US general audiences, and anime in general up until recently.
 

Disney Irish

Premium Member
You need to broaden your movie viewing knowledge a little more. Or at least define you parameters better.
Tell me what I'm missing then. Because looking at the data, up until the mid-2010s anime has not by and large performed very well in the US/Canada domestic market at the box office. And the examples you provided didn't change any of that.

So again tell me what I'm missing? That they do well outside the US/Canada domestic market? Ok, but what does that prove? We've been told over and over that unless a movie performs well here in the US/Canada domestic market, well quite frankly that its a loser. So are we now saying that isn't the case?

Also just so you know I have no issues with anime, so if it does well then it does well.
 

Disney Irish

Premium Member
Oh, thank God! It's just a play. I was afraid it was an actual movie remake of that wonderful classic.

Let her act to her heart's content in plays for the rest of her life. Just don't let her near another classic movie ever again.
You all are over exaggerating, she is fine and by all accounts talented. And obviously her career is just fine as well as she has already booked a new movie and now her second play. So those that claim her career was going to be ruined from the fall out clearly didn't understand how things really work in the entertainment industry.
 

Phroobar

Well-Known Member
Tell me what I'm missing then. Because looking at the data, up until the mid-2010s anime has not by and large performed very well in the US/Canada domestic market at the box office. And the examples you provided didn't change any of that.

So again tell me what I'm missing? That they do well outside the US/Canada domestic market? Ok, but what does that prove? We've been told over and over that unless a movie performs well here in the US/Canada domestic market, well quite frankly that its a loser. So are we now saying that isn't the case?

Also just so you know I have no issues with anime, so if it does well then it does well.

$21.1Billion isn't an niche market.
 

Phroobar

Well-Known Member
Oh, thank God! It's just a play. I was afraid it was an actual movie remake of that wonderful classic.

Let her act to her heart's content in plays for the rest of her life. Just don't let her near another classic movie ever again.
He last on stage musical with showing to nearly empty audiences.
 

Chi84

Premium Member

Disney Irish

Premium Member
$21.1Billion isn't an niche market.
So $21B in overall product sales for the entire industry worldwide, but not at the box office. So niche in terms of the box office (which is what we’re talking about), especially in the US/Canada market, ie it still hasn’t penetrated the overall box office. Also you missed or ignored the part where I acknowledge that it’s a recent change where it’s become more popular even here in the US in the last decade. So yes the overall industry isn’t niche anymore, but that isn’t what we were talking about.
 

brideck

Well-Known Member

Disney Irish

Premium Member
That is a wild way to stage a big musical number in the theater -- singing to a random thousand people out on the street.
If you think about it and the number being performed it actually is exactly what Eva Peron would do, take from the rich and give to the poor. Which I think is exactly why the director staged it that way. I've seen so many online try to blame Zegler for that, "how can she perform the plays most pivotal scene to non-paying crowds and not the guest paying to see her", but its not her call, its the directors.
 

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