Disney After Hours returns to the Magic Kingdom at new lower pricing

wdwmagic

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The Hub describes it as "Back by popular demand." I'd love to talk to someone who was part of that "popular demand" and ask WHY!? :) :)
There are people who did it and loved it. It didn't sell well at the original price, but that doesn't change the fact that the event had its fans. For some, spending $120 for 6 hours in the park, with 3 of those having no waits, could be a better deal than a regular park ticket.
 

Kylo Ken

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There are people who did it and loved it. It didn't sell well at the original price, but that doesn't change the fact that the event had its fans. For some, spending $120 for 6 hours in the park, with 3 of those having no waits, could be a better deal than a regular park ticket.
I understand that. I guess what I'm trying to understand is for a business that raises prices across the board, if it were that popular, why would you give it another go around at a lower price? To me it seems as if Disney said "well it did just ok. Let's do it again with a lower price and see if it sticks." Even the dates chosen aren't all that great because the parks aren't very crowded then. It also seems to me as a "test" to see if people would pay for EMH in the future.
 

wdwmagic

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I understand that. I guess what I'm trying to understand is for a business that raises prices across the board, if it were that popular, why would you give it another go around at a lower price? To me it seems as if Disney said "well it did just ok. Let's do it again with a lower price and see if it sticks." Even the dates chosen aren't all that great because the parks aren't very crowded then.
They didn't quite describe which part of it was popular. I would say the experience was popular, the discounted and free versions were very popular - the full priced, not so much. But either way, it can easily be spun to say it was popular.
 

21stamps

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There are people who did it and loved it. It didn't sell well at the original price, but that doesn't change the fact that the event had its fans. For some, spending $120 for 6 hours in the park, with 3 of those having no waits, could be a better deal than a regular park ticket.
3 hours with no waits would give someone the ability to go on more attractions than what most can normally do in an entire day for sure.
 

flynnibus

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3 hours with no waits would give someone the ability to go on more attractions than what most can normally do in an entire day for sure.

When people get accustomed to doing everything they possibly can want in 2-3hrs... next will be the complaints that there isn't enough to do in the park. Because the park's capacity assumes crowds and that people can only do so many things in a day due to wait times. Or just general crowd complaints when its not the special events.

It's like hearing a great song.. when you hear it once a day.. its still great. When you play it on repeat 4-5 times.. you'll tire of it much quicker and look for something else to listen to. If you listen to music for an hour a day, your collect will seem vast. Listen to music for 12hrs a day and your collection will feel much smaller.
 

Disneymom201

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There are people who did it and loved it. It didn't sell well at the original price, but that doesn't change the fact that the event had its fans. For some, spending $120 for 6 hours in the park, with 3 of those having no waits, could be a better deal than a regular park ticket.
I am looking at going 2/16. MK closes at 8pm, therefore the After Party would conclude at 11pm, giving me 4 hours total, correct? I am really interested in attending. We are a family of 5. Just trying to justify the expense.
During most recent MNSSHP this past October Mine Train & Peter Pan were both 60+ min wait. We aren't staying on property so I don't have a 60 day fast pass window. Sounds like a great opportunity to ride my favorites, maybe more than once
 

glvsav37

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Um, hate to be the obvious one here, but the point of this is to price many people out. The idea is pay high for a closer to empty park not sell at bargain price to fill up the park. For every ten of us that wouldn't pay for it there is one who will, and that's the plan.

Exactly,...there needs to be an exclusive feel to this or else people who can afford it will not spend on it.

Ironically, last night, the wife and I were just talking about our trip last summer and we both said that one of the best experiences on that trip was the Early ticket into Studios (I forgot what it was called). And that had only a 2 or so rides open and a few meet and greets. But the place was literally empty, we had the entire Pixar place to ourselves and spend a good amount of time with the Army men w/o anyone else pushing their way in. Felt like a private party, and thats just not an experience you get in a Disney park. It actually felt strangely weird.

I have a video of the crowd rushing in at rope drop and from the other side, it was like the hoards were attacking.
 

21stamps

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I am looking at going 2/16. MK closes at 8pm, therefore the After Party would conclude at 11pm, giving me 4 hours total, correct? I am really interested in attending. We are a family of 5. Just trying to justify the expense.
During most recent MNSSHP this past October Mine Train & Peter Pan were both 60+ min wait. We aren't staying on property so I don't have a 60 day fast pass window. Sounds like a great opportunity to ride my favorites, maybe more than once

I have been raving about Early Morning Magic ever since we attended it on 11/27. It was perfect, just perfect. I can't even imagine having the entire park with that kind of crowds, or lack of, which is what Disney After Hours is. Have a wonderful time if you go!!!! Please post photos afterwards!
When people get accustomed to doing everything they possibly can want in 2-3hrs... next will be the complaints that there isn't enough to do in the park. Because the park's capacity assumes crowds and that people can only do so many things in a day due to wait times. Or just general crowd complaints when its not the special events.

It's like hearing a great song.. when you hear it once a day.. its still great. When you play it on repeat 4-5 times.. you'll tire of it much quicker and look for something else to listen to. If you listen to music for an hour a day, your collect will seem vast. Listen to music for 12hrs a day and your collection will feel much smaller.

No, it isn't like that. It's about being able to experience MK in a different way than what we normally can. It's ok to switch things up sometimes.
 

21stamps

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Exactly,...there needs to be an exclusive feel to this or else people who can afford it will not spend on it.

Ironically, last night, the wife and I were just talking about our trip last summer and we both said that one of the best experiences on that trip was the Early ticket into Studios (I forgot what it was called). And that had only a 2 or so rides open and a few meet and greets. But the place was literally empty, we had the entire Pixar place to ourselves and spend a good amount of time with the Army men w/o anyone else pushing their way in. Felt like a private party, and thats just not an experience you get in a Disney park. It actually felt strangely weird.

I have a video of the crowd rushing in at rope drop and from the other side, it was like the hoards were attacking.
I wanted to do this! It was only available on a Saturday which didn't work for our schedule, but if I had know what the crowd levels would have been on our HS day then I would have switched to Saturday with EMM. Glad you had fun!
 

glvsav37

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I wanted to do this! It was only available on a Saturday which didn't work for our schedule, but if I had know what the crowd levels would have been on our HS day then I would have switched to Saturday with EMM. Glad you had fun!
It's funny b/c I was actually ed I had to book it. It fell on our only full studios day and my kids were dying to do jedi training. Knowing how long the lines were in the summer for that, i booked it JUST to be able to beat the crowd to Jedi. Funny, spent close to $300 to get into a 'free' experience. lol.
However, as I said, it turned out to be a really fun experience. And honestly thats what it was...an experience. there were only 60 people signed up that day, so said the CM with the clip board. And we felt like royalty walking the empty streets. Finished TSMM? Heck...lets go around again!

Then once the flood of people came in, it was off to breakfast and out of the crowds.

You just don't get this everyday.
 

flynnibus

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No, it isn't like that. It's about being able to experience MK in a different way than what we normally can. It's ok to switch things up sometimes.

Because you did it infrequently... the point is the more frequently people experience it this way, it has a consequence. The # of attractions in a park is a balance of capacity, availability, and ability to consume (this ignores the other dimension of demand). How often do you hear people say "I did everything I wanted to do by 1pm.. so we left" - that's what happens when that balance is out of whack and people start to build a belief that the park doesn't have enough to do. That belief is going to stick with them.. and people will start to be conditioned around what they've experienced in these limited access events.

It's not a good idea in the long run when it comes to maintaining expectations around the park.
 

sgtbtlbailey

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3 hours with no waits would give someone the ability to go on more attractions than what most can normally do in an entire day for sure.[/QUOTE]
I remember the days before EMH existed where one could purchase a ticket for $27 to extend their day for an extra 3 hours. They were called E-Ride nights (they were GLORIOUS) and all of the big rides were open. The number of guests in the park plummeted after the park closed and you could easily do more in that time frame than what you did all day. I remember running back and forth between HM and BTMM and getting to ride each 3 times in an hour. It was a steal then, there weren't any concessions included, and you didn't have to be staying on property to get the tickets. You just had to know about it (which many did not). Obviously times have changed, but it seems like they're now offering the same option again, just at 4 times the price.
 

mickeyfan5534

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Maybe I'd spring on this if it had some exclusive entertainment (Castle Show, cobbled together storage parade, exclusive character meets) and a price around MNSSHP or MVMCP. It doesn't, so count me out.
 

glvsav37

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Maybe I'd spring on this if it had some exclusive entertainment (Castle Show, cobbled together storage parade, exclusive character meets) and a price around MNSSHP or MVMCP. It doesn't, so count me out.

At first I was feeling the same. It would be great if there was some exclusive M&G with some rare character, but with the downward feeling of this event already, I could only image the complaints of "Oh...so now we need to pay to meet so-and-so?" if they did that.
 

21stamps

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3 hours with no waits would give someone the ability to go on more attractions than what most can normally do in an entire day for sure.
I remember the days before EMH existed where one could purchase a ticket for $27 to extend their day for an extra 3 hours. They were called E-Ride nights (they were GLORIOUS) and all of the big rides were open. The number of guests in the park plummeted after the park closed and you could easily do more in that time frame than what you did all day. I remember running back and forth between HM and BTMM and getting to ride each 3 times in an hour. It was a steal then, there weren't any concessions included, and you didn't have to be staying on property to get the tickets. You just had to know about it (which many did not). Obviously times have changed, but it seems like they're now offering the same option again, just at 4 times the price.[/QUOTE]


Yes, but that was what? Close to 15 years ago, and how long did E-Ride nights exist? I'm sure they were absolutely wonderful! However, a $27 price point would not be realistic at this time. They would be sold out in 5 minutes. I think the point is to price some people out.
 

21stamps

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Because you did it infrequently... the point is the more frequently people experience it this way, it has a consequence. The # of attractions in a park is a balance of capacity, availability, and ability to consume (this ignores the other dimension of demand). How often do you hear people say "I did everything I wanted to do by 1pm.. so we left" - that's what happens when that balance is out of whack and people start to build a belief that the park doesn't have enough to do. That belief is going to stick with them.. and people will start to be conditioned around what they've experienced in these limited access events.

It's not a good idea in the long run when it comes to maintaining expectations around the park.

Once again you are taking this to the most extreme scenario. A family isn't going to travel to WDW and attend MK only on DAH nights each trip. This is an event, that most will probably do once per year at best. Let's not make it into something it is not.

I go to an amusement park when it's crowded, even after we've been the week before, on a rainy weekday, being able to walk on every ride. It doesn't make us say "Let's throw away our passes now! We can no longer go if it's not possible to do EVERYTHING in the same day."

This event is also absolutely perfect for adult trips, or quick trips. Just let it go for once. It's not harming you. It's not harming anyone.
 

flynnibus

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Once again you are taking this to the most extreme scenario

No, I'm thinking long term and outside the bubble of myself. It's what a business does... not just approach it as if I were the only consumer that mattered.

This 'event' is offered on a limited basis because they are still testing it. If they green light it, its not going to be 'once per year'.

This event is also absolutely perfect for adult trips, or quick trips. Just let it go for once. It's not harming you. It's not harming anyone.

Ms. Shortsighted appears again. Check in again 3-5 years from now
 

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