News Disney’s Q1 FY25 Earnings Results Webcast

monothingie

Where the hell are we — Paris?
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They’re not going to change anything based on the results of one quarter. But I hope they will eventually start adding some perks back. But it’s going to take several quarters of lackluster park numbers for that to happen, maybe not even then.
The only path forward for the next couple of years will be through maximizing guest spending. Expect more up-charge events, higher prices for resorts, food and merch, and more LL.

Their statement (spin) about EU was the closest thing you'll get to an admission of defeat.
 

Disstevefan1

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Dranth

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Actually, don't know why I never looked at the summary, but they spell out the impact of the hurricane and Treasure launch.

They peg the hurricanes at an approximately 120 million loss and the Treasure as a 75 million impact. Without those we are looking at 2.177 billion for Q1 which is a 4.8% increase over last year.
 

Vegas Disney Fan

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The only path forward for the next couple of years will be through maximizing guest spending. Expect more up-charge events, higher prices for resorts, food and merch, and more LL.

Their statement (spin) about EU was the closest thing you'll get to an admission of defeat.
I agree this is the most likely scenario but I’m still hopeful they are smart enough to realize they need to bring back some perks to justify their prices.

They can’t ignore declining attendance forever, we know they won’t lower prices so the only real option to increase attendance is to increase perceived value.
 

Jrb1979

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Actually, don't know why I never looked at the summary, but they spell out the impact of the hurricane and Treasure launch.

They peg the hurricanes at an approximately 120 million loss and the Treasure as a 75 million impact. Without those we are looking at 2.177 billion for Q1 which is a 4.8% increase over last year.
For the whole company sure they are up. Without those the Parks and Experiences are still down. That's not a good thing as that's what makes the majority of their revenue.

Disney as company is doing fine. I'm not sure how sustainable it's going to be. Q1 should be a growth quarter Parks and Experiences domestically. Especially when they add more parties and charge more for them.

The worst is they think the answer is maximizing guest spending.
 

Dranth

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For the whole company sure they are up. Without those the Parks and Experiences are still down. That's not a good thing as that's what makes the majority of their revenue.
Not sure I follow. Domestic profit was down 5%, if you exclude the one time cost impacts profit was up 4%. International was already positive so the entire division was up, not down once those are accounted for.

Even if you don't separate those out P&E was still essentially flat (up 0.16%).

Disney as company is doing fine. I'm not sure how sustainable it's going to be. Q1 should be a growth quarter Parks and Experiences domestically. Especially when they add more parties and charge more for them.
If I remember correctly the only party that had added inventory was Jollywood which would certainly mean increased revenue over the previous year but I would be willing to bet the profit gain from the ticket increase of all parties had a much larger impact.

The worst is they think the answer is maximizing guest spending.
It certainly isn't a plus from a guest perceptive.
 

monothingie

Where the hell are we — Paris?
Premium Member
I agree this is the most likely scenario but I’m still hopeful they are smart enough to realize they need to bring back some perks to justify their prices.

They can’t ignore declining attendance forever, we know they won’t lower prices so the only real option to increase attendance is to increase perceived value.
They have priced themselves into a wall with the price of everything. I'm not saying they won't stop raising pricesit, but it will they've passed the tipping point on pricing. Every price increase drives more people away. Eventually thew won't be able to makeup for these losses by forcing up guest spending.

If I had to guess, they're going to introduce more upcharges, potentially selling the same park three times a day. (morning, regular hours, after hours)
You just described Disney's theme park Standard Operating Procedure. This happens in any event.
It's completely unsustainable, everyone sees it now.
 

Ayla

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The only path forward for the next couple of years will be through maximizing guest spending. Expect more up-charge events, higher prices for resorts, food and merch, and more LL.

Their statement (spin) about EU was the closest thing you'll get to an admission of defeat.
Expect attendance and spending to continue to fall...and they'll throw up their hands like they have no idea why.
 

Jrb1979

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Not sure I follow. Domestic profit was down 5%, if you exclude the one time cost impacts profit was up 4%. International was already positive so the entire division was up, not down once those are accounted for.

Even if you don't separate those out P&E was still essentially flat (up 0.16%).


If I remember correctly the only party that had added inventory was Jollywood which would certainly mean increased revenue over the previous year but I would be willing to bet the profit gain from the ticket increase of all parties had a much larger impact.


It certainly isn't a plus from a guest perceptive.
IMO flat isn't good enough. With the price increases for the parties, Q1 usually being their biggest quarter of the year and travel being up last year. The parks should be up in revenue by a lot.

I'm not saying they are going out of business or closing. It's not doom schlock to say that they have big problems that they need to fix. There is signs everywhere that big problems are happening. It feels like many see 2 billion in profit so it's fine.
 

Disstevefan1

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Yes we have but IMO you're starting to see it happen now.
I think the steps you describe to maximize guest spending in the parks, will happen, and WILL WORK for Disney. To be clear, I personally don't like it, but I think it will work.

I am interested what the impact of EPIC will be. I think the MK will retain the title of most visited in 2025. My heart feels MK will retain the title in 2026 too but lets see what happens.
 

Jrb1979

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I think the steps you describe to maximize guest spending in the parks, will happen, and WILL WORK for Disney. To be clear, I personally don't like it, but I think it will work.

I am interested what the impact of EPIC will be. I think the MK will retain the title of most visited in 2025. My heart feels MK will retain the title in 2026 too but lets see what happens.
I disagree. There is already a poster in here who said they are staying off site plus cut some table service to keep the same budget for their trip.

That's someone who's a hardcore fan. What do you think your average guest will do?
 

Agent H

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I disagree. There is already a poster in here who said they are staying off site plus cut some table service to keep the same budget for their trip.

That's someone who's a hardcore fan. What do you think your average guest will do?
Sad but true I do not want them to cut out the middle class
 

Disstevefan1

Well-Known Member
I disagree. There is already a poster in here who said they are staying off site plus cut some table service to keep the same budget for their trip.

That's someone who's a hardcore fan. What do you think your average guest will do?
Just my opinion, one post does not make a trend. I think the steps you describe to maximize guest spending in the parks, will happen, and WILL WORK for Disney. Lets see what happens.

My personal hope is they drop or at least freeze prices but I know that's not going to happen.
 

MisterPenguin

President of Animal Kingdom
Premium Member
I was watching one of the Disney “news” sites summaries of todays report and they said D+ had its most profitable quarter ever despite losing 700,000 subs.

I don’t recall seeing that stat in the release here, or in the forums, is that accurate? Was that loss from actual D+ subscribers or was that from cheaper subscriptions like Hotstar?

No one cares about the number of subs any more. Wall Street stopped caring 3 years ago. The metric is profit.

So, yes, DTC lost subs, but, the ARPU for D+, Hulu, and ESPN went up. The loss of subs was expected with the price increase. But the total income of all those subs that remained and paid the increase more than made up for the loss of subs.

Also, as compared to 3 years ago, streamers are getting ad revenue on top of subs. So, sub numbers alone don't tell the full story.

It's all there in the financial reports. The guidance is that this new quarter will also see a small decline in subs, but overall profit will still go up.

This wasn't discussed here because most of us have been through this several quarters and know that the only thing that matters is the bottom line.

As Disney continues to merge the three streamers into one (beyond merely being bundled), the loss of subs/churn will diminish since bundled/merged subscriptions see less churn. E.g., the parents in a household like Hulu, but don't care for D+, but their youngling is hooked on Bluey and the don't dare cancel that sub. And so, they pay for both.
 

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