Agent H
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Unrelated but me and my friend Alex are going to have a terrible no good very bad day
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Disney’s Mufasa - the lion king
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Prince-1
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Generally speaking if a studio releases a made for streaming movie…. I expect it is going to be awful
Disstevefan1
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The problem is when the bombs are accidentally released to theaters instead of going directly Disney+
easyrowrdw
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It occurs to me that you could have made up some of these titles and I wouldn’t have known. Maybe you did?
Disney Irish
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Nope, all (except the last one which is his own take on the title with a long name) are all actual movies on D+ released in the last 4-5 years. Think of these as the old DCOM (Disney Channel Original Movies) released from the late-90s thru late-2010s (last one was technically in 2022 but was also released to D+).
Disney Irish
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Problem is you never can tell want an audience will watch or not. If a movie is released to theaters a studio hopes there is an audience that will watch it, however as we have discussed many times its not guaranteed. What appears to be a slam dunk can end up being a miss and vice-versa.The problem is when the bombs are accidentally released to theaters instead of going directly Disney+
Poorly worded on my part. I agree with you.
What I meant was “Wait” on writing the obituary or declaring things over or flatlined when it clearly hasn’t finished. Let me prognosticate, which I enjoy.
We’ve left it behind indeed. It’s kind of transitioning from a modest to a moderate success in my eyes.
A disappointing opening based on the prior film counter-acted by an exceptional run. I kind of see the end point with you and now my next question is where does the post market take us? Does “brother” stick around?
Agent H
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No they are all real
brideck
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I can't speak specifically, since I haven't seen this yet, but thinking a bit, this is kind of an interesting milestone for Disney. They've been content to just do pretty straight remakes of Disney Renaissance era stuff so far, and Mufasa marks the first* real attempt (if that's even what it is) to try to spin one of these into a franchise. Was it successful? Err... kind of? Will they continue with more Lion King stuff? Will they try to expand other movies into their own worlds?
[Note: I'm fully aware of both the cavalcade of direct-to-video sequels and various TV series related to that era of movies, and am ignoring them in my claim of "first" here. I'm also having to ignore things like the Maleficent movies to make that statement. They're more of a Sleeping Beauty Elseworlds thing then something that really integrates with the original Disney story in any real way.]
Agent H
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Is Alexander a remake of something older because I feel like I heard that somewhere before Disney + came out maybe it was a DCOM?
Yeah, several of these are more of the made-for-TV quality.
But, it would've been unimaginable in the past that Disney would make live-action Pinocchio, Lady and the Tramp, and Peter Pan & Wendy and *not* release it theatrically.
Part of it was feeding the streaming beast with first run originals. The other part was knowing they'd fail theatrically because of how not very good they were.
Disney Irish
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I should amend my post a bit to say also “direct to video” films that would normally skip the theatrical when not box office worthy.
Disney Irish
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That upcoming sequel in March is gonna rock the service
Disstevefan1
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Agreed -
In Disney's movie business - They spend hundreds of millions of dollars WITH RUNAWAY BUDGETS and hope for the best.
In Disney's theme park business - THEY WILL PUSH THE ENVELOPE AS FAR AS THEY CAN; CUTTING COSTS WHILE RAISING PRICES ON EVERYTHING!
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Agent H
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I think you mean in the film business they are happy to spend money because iger filled the studios with mostly creative people who value a vision in contrast the theme parks have a lot of people higher up who think in a very six flags sort of way so while we do get good stuff like galaxys edge or pandora and tons of other stuff in the last few years there tend to be a lot of things that were cut because of someone like chapak what’s the takeaway from this? I wish iger were more hands on with the theme parks instead of only popping in for the big projects like cars land and such because that I would guess is how people like chapak come to power iger doesn’t know them very well sees a lot money coming out and promotes them EDIT sorry for going off topic everyone
Disstevefan1
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Iger has no theme park experience. He just spends Disney's money like monopoly money buying $hit...
Sorry for going off topic.
Getting back on subject, I am happy Mufasa made money.
Disney Irish
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I know you're being sarcastic, but budget comments aside, this is all any studio does even the ones with a small budget. They release it into the market and hope it finds an audience.
Also Disney is far from the only studio to have huge budgets. Heck Disney isn't even likely to have the highest budget film in 2025, that'll likely be MI:8 at ~$400M. While I agree, and have said so on many occasions, Disney needs to bring down their budgets, when they have a hit movie no one seems to be caring all that much about the budget. Its only in terms of talk about its profitability, which none of us really know the real balance sheet anyways. So lets take it with a huge grain of salt on the budget talk, its all relative.