Did you see that UNIVERSAL commercial?!?!?

[Legacy]

To each his own. I don't see the big problem with universal. i really dont see how any one can hate it. i mean, it's a fun park. it's really fun. It's not disney. i love disney. that doesn't mean i cant have a great time at universal too. it all depends on what u like. i dont hate sea world because they dont have enough rides. i cant see how anyone could have such a big problem with universal. pretty much every park in orlando is fun. some are just more fun that other.

Because Universal isn't Disney.

 

[abian]

To each his own. I don't see the big problem with universal. i really dont see how any one can hate it. i mean, it's a fun park. it's really fun. It's not disney. i love disney. that doesn't mean i cant have a great time at universal too. it all depends on what u like. i dont hate sea world because they dont have enough rides. i cant see how anyone could have such a big problem with universal. pretty much every park in orlando is fun. some are just more fun that other.

They hate it because Disney block thier appreciation over other things. But they only saw the negative side of other things and good side of Disney. Do they care about Disney stealing Universal's idea to build a studio tours at MGM studios? NO. But when they saw something with a globe shape object in the lagoon, they immeditalty thinking that's a copy from illuminations. Do they care about bashing Universal being so boring or lame? No. But they lost any sense of humor whenever anyone make fun of Disney. I knew some Disney fans got so mad at first about the jokes they made in shrek. But later on she loved it to death and admit that it is the funniest movie she've ever seen. Oh I bet a lot "Disney people" hate that film. They are gonna think in a way that all Universal could do is make fun of Disney. Yeah...that's right. Those are jokes toward Disney's fairy Tales but so what?

 

[abian]

Because Universal isn't Disney.

Yeah thats right. And if Universal IS part of Disney, lots of Disney fans will keep telling people how great Spiderman is and start appericating the park.

 

[abian]

1. Globe isn't a genre. It's an element or trend of an attraction. If anything it is a trope.

2. That's not my logic at all. Infact, that doesn't even make sense.

3. Sure, stories came from Europe. So what's your point? I'm sure there's a valid point in there somewhere? You just need to articulate it better.

I am glad you realize what YOUR saying doesn't even make sense. That's a good start.

 

[Pumbas Nakasak]

I havent read all of this thread as it will be full of comments from people who have never set foot in the parks or stayed at the resorts.

As for the commercials, dont Pepsi have a dig at Coke? its the nature of the beast.

Still if staying in top class hotels and experiencing great attractions isnt your thing I can see why you wouldnt enjoy Universal.

 

[LudwigVonDrake]

I've gone to Islands of Adventure a couple of times and really like Spiderman and the Dr. Seuss area. Other than that, I think IOA is a glorified Six Flags which isn't a good thing

If a commercial that features Universal knocking Disney gets you upset, take a deep breath and move on. There are more important things to get upset about in Life

 

[PurpleDragon]

They hate it because Disney block thier appreciation over other things. But they only saw the negative side of other things and good side of Disney. Do they care about Disney stealing Universal's idea to build a studio tours at MGM studios? NO. But when they saw something with a globe shape object in the lagoon, they immeditalty thinking that's a copy from illuminations. Do they care about bashing Universal being so boring or lame? No. But they lost any sense of humor whenever anyone make fun of Disney. I knew some Disney fans got so mad at first about the jokes they made in shrek. But later on she loved it to death and admit that it is the funniest movie she've ever seen. Oh I bet a lot "Disney people" hate that film. They are gonna think in a way that all Universal could do is make fun of Disney. Yeah...that's right. Those are jokes toward Disney's fairy Tales but so what?

This is what I'm talking about right here. Its one thing to say "Universal sux" or "Disney sux", whatever floats your boat. But to make broad generalizations about a group of people you know nothing about is childish. You are now simply trolling and looking to start a flame war. The issue is done and over with, yet you continue to boast comments about how disney fans are ignorant and this and that, when you know nothing about them.

Also if you go back and look at the history books, Universal and Disney came up with the movie themed park at about the same time. Universal acted on the idea where as Disney put theirs on the back burner to work on other projects preexisting projects. Disney's concept started as a pavillion at EPCOT but quickly outgrew the concept and it was decided it was a big enough idea to merit an entire park. Do some research before you try and insult.

Please stop with the attacks, its fine if you do not like Disney, to each his own. But tossing around broad generalizations and insults about Disney fans on a Disney fan site is just plain childish and simply asking for trouble.

 

[NemoRocks78]

Also if you go back and look at the history books, Universal and Disney came up with the movie themed park at about the same time. Universal acted on the idea where as Disney put theirs on the back burner to work on other projects preexisting projects. Disney's concept started as a pavillion at EPCOT but quickly outgrew the concept and it was decided it was a big enough idea to merit an entire park. Do some research before you try and insult.

You should do some research too. Universal was looking for partners to build the park with back in the 80s so they came to Paramount whose studio chief was Mike Eisner. He passed on the project but when he came to Disney he got the Disney-MGM Studios project started immediately. They rushed construction and got the park open a whole year before USF was able to open.

Before he came it was just a pavilion in Epcot.

 

[PurpleDragon]

You should do some research too. Universal was looking for partners to build the park with back in the 80s so they came to Paramount whose studio chief was Mike Eisner. He passed on the project but when he came to Disney he got the Disney-MGM Studios project started immediately. They rushed construction and got the park open a whole year before USF was able to open.

Before he came it was just a pavilion in Epcot.

Actually thats a rumor:

http://www.answers.com/topic/disney-mgm-studios

According to Internet urban legends, while Michael Eisner was working for Paramount Pictures, he saw the early plans for the Universal Studios park in Florida (Paramount has always been closely associated with Universal, and Paramount provided much needed finance into the Universal Orlando Resort). After moving to Disney, he took some of these ideas and used them in early plans for the future Disney-MGM Studios. As Disney-MGM narrowly opened before Universal (as mentioned above the park and its resort had finance problems), it was seen that Universal copied Disney-MGM—or was it the other way around? Some reports say that, in a coincidence, both Universal and Disney planned studio/theme parks at the same time without knowing of the other company's ideas in the beginning and both rushed to finish their respective parks when they heard the news.

But if you really wanna get technical. Walt was the first to come up with the concept of a movie based theme park:

http://orlando.about.com/cs/disney/l/blwdwmgm5.htm

[FONT=verdana, geneva, helvetica]The idea for a park based on favorite movie themes originated with Walt Disney more than 40 years ago when "backlot tours" were limited to a privileged few. He first considered a park on his own backlot, then looked across the river from the Disney Studios in Burbank on land adjacent to Griffith Park. Lack of enough land combined with potential traffic problems caused him to look elsewhere; namely, Anaheim. The result was Disneyland. In the mid '80s, a greatly expanded production schedule for the Walt Disney Company demanded more facilities. Rather than buy expensive land in California, the company realized it had plenty of land in Florida and the opportunity to combine its new production facilities with a chance for Walt Disney World guests to see behind the scenes of movie and television production.

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I have done my research thank you.

 

[PurpleDragon]

Really? You really should check YOUR history book.

Universal Hollywood started a tour in 1964. So technically, the "movie themed theme park" was started then.

A backlot tour is technically not a theme park. A tour of a working production studio is just that, a tour, not a park based around movies. The studios were already there and in order to satify the curiosity of the public they began running tours of their facility.

But guys I'm not here to debate fact really. I just was asking abian to stop with the personal attacks.

 

[NemoRocks78]

But if you really wanna get technical. Walt was the first to come up with the concept of a movie based theme park: [/url]

His idea was nothing more than what Disneyland is now, a theme park with rides that are based on movies. USH/USF/MGM combine the movie studio with the theme park.

Rather than buy expensive land in California, the company realized it had plenty of land in Florida and the opportunity to combine its new production facilities with a chance for Walt Disney World guests to see behind the scenes of movie and television production.

They "suddenly realize" that they have plenty of land in FL to do it while Universal is getting ready to build a movie studio and theme park just down the road? Give me a break.

A backlot tour is technically not a theme park. A tour of a working production studio is just that, a tour, not a park based around movies. The studios were already there and in order to satify the curiosity of the public they began running tours of their facility.

They had a lot more than a tour in the 70s and 80s.

 

[pluto77]

Just remind you for lots of people WDW is crap as well.

Just to remind you, for lots of people Universal is crap as well, but I guess the other side isn't allowed to express their opinions, huh? (by the way, I enjoy Universal, just trying to get a point across)

They hate it because Disney block thier appreciation over other things. But they only saw the negative side of other things and good side of Disney. Do they care about Disney stealing Universal's idea to build a studio tours at MGM studios? NO. But when they saw something with a globe shape object in the lagoon, they immeditalty thinking that's a copy from illuminations. Do they care about bashing Universal being so boring or lame? No. But they lost any sense of humor whenever anyone make fun of Disney. I knew some Disney fans got so mad at first about the jokes they made in shrek. But later on she loved it to death and admit that it is the funniest movie she've ever seen. Oh I bet a lot "Disney people" hate thafilm. They are gonna think in a way that all Universal could do is make fun of Disney. Yeah...that's right. Those are jokes toward Disney's fairy Tales but so what?

Isn't this thread about making fun of Universal because they appear to be copying Disney? Where's your sense of humor when people make fun of Universal? So... I guess some Universal fans have also lost their sense of humor for when people make fun of Universal. You're lecturing to people who bash Universal, and get defensive about disney, but according to you, it's okay to make fun of Disney, but it's not okay to talk down upon Universal.

Like I said I enjoy Universal, but this kind of arguing is pointless. Yeah that's right, people are making fun of Universal for copying Disney, but so what?

 

[jozzmenia]

Because Universal isn't Disney.

OK, that makes sense. I hate cedar point, six flags, school, work, church, the beach, tahiti, alaska, italy, australia, the caribbean, applebee's, pizza hut, the movie theatre, and the mall because...they're not Disney.

Good reasoning.

 

[jozzmenia]

Um,...well,...I hate to break this to you but you are not "grammatically" correct either.

And,..also..It's is "grammatically" frowned upon to start a sentence with "And" the way you did. (and me too...but mine was deliberate)

Ouch,......lol

:sohappy:

I think this person likes to go into people's threads, make arguments that make no sense whatsoever, basically lose the argument and make irrelevant points, then say "And with that, I am through with you. Thanks for playing. There will be some lovely parting gifts for you" because they somehow think it's a cute phrase and makes them look smarter :lookaroun I've seen it before. You should search. It's quite funny actually.

 

[PurpleDragon]

His idea was nothing more than what Disneyland is now, a theme park with rides that are based on movies. USH/USF/MGM combine the movie studio with the theme park.


They "suddenly realize" that they have plenty of land in FL to do it while Universal is getting ready to build a movie studio and theme park just down the road? Give me a break.


They had a lot more than a tour in the 70s and 80s.

Does it really matter? We can debate this till the cows come home, its the same type thing as "Which came first the chicken or the egg?". The point is both parks exist and both parks have their own demographic of followers.

The whole thing I was getting at was that abian was tossing stones and insulting people. Rather than simply defending his favorite park or just insulting WDW for that matter, he took it upon himself to generalize about all Disney fans and tell us how ignorant we are. He then chose to toss in a random "fact" I guess to use as a slap in the face to Disney fans. I simply countered his "fact" with another "fact" but since none of this can be proven its reduced to hersay.

It all comes down to simply being an adult about this. Yes some people here said in so many words that they think Universal is inferior to Disney, some not so nice. Abian had initialy come in here to defend his beloved park against the onslaught of Disney fans who dislike Universal, which is all well and good. But he crossed the line when he switched gears from making fun of and insulting Disney, to making fun of and insulting Disney fans as a whole. It was rather childish to say the least.

 

[jozzmenia]

The whole thing I was getting at was that abian was tossing stones and insulting people. Rather than simply defending his favorite park or just insulting WDW for that matter, he took it upon himself to generalize about all Disney fans and tell us how ignorant we are. He then chose to toss in a random "fact" I guess to use as a slap in the face to Disney fans. I simply countered his "fact" with another "fact" but since none of this can be proven its reduced to hersay.

Where's that? I got the impression he may have been being specific, as in "these type of people think this" but I didn't see anything about ALL Disney fans being ignorant. What quote was that. I'm a Disney fan and I wasn't offended. :veryconfu

 

[PurpleDragon]

Where's that? I got the impression he may have been being specific, as in "these type of people think this" but I didn't see anything about ALL Disney fans being ignorant. What quote was that. I'm a Disney fan and I wasn't offended. :veryconfu

I quoted it a few posts back. In so many words he says that Disney blinds the disney fans and tells us how to think. Maybe I was just already irritated this morning when I read it, but the point is his attitude and approach to this is no better to those who bashed Universal in the first place. I view his posts and demeaning tone as trollish and all he seems to be doing is trying to start a flame war.

 

[Legacy]

OK, that makes sense. I hate cedar point, six flags, school, work, church, the beach, tahiti, alaska, italy, australia, the caribbean, applebee's, pizza hut, the movie theatre, and the mall because...they're not Disney.

Good reasoning.

You're absolutely right... it is rediculous. But if you look at the basis for most of these arguments... that's all it comes down to. There no real logic behind it because it's based on opinion and personal experience.

 

[jozzmenia]

http://forums.wdwmagic.com/showthread.php?t=78325&page=11

No actually I wouldn't waste my time doing a search on someone who thinks it's fantastic to say "with that i am through with you" like it's a grand finale, yet continues to talk to the person anyway and still fails to make any sort of point related to the topic and hand, or any point at all for that matter...

 

[Legacy]

http://forums.wdwmagic.com/showthread.php?t=78325&page=11

No actually I wouldn't waste my time doing a search on someone who thinks it's fantastic to say "with that i am through with you" like it's a grand finale, yet continues to talk to the person anyway and still fails to make any sort of point related to the topic and hand, or any point at all for that matter...

So you point out a post in which he claims you are being "far-fetched" and that you don't seem to grasp the concept at hand (which after reading the thread... you didn't). Sounds more like personal beef than him "going into threads and making claims".