DHS to Get the DCA Treatment?

[BryceM]

And I am confused why people are complaining about RnR I think it's an great idea being late for a concert Driving like a maniac to somehow make it on time

I don't think it's the story they don't like, it's the location. Though I don't mind it at all, even if it is more modern day than the rest of Sunset Blvd.

 

[Adam5897]

I don't think it's the story they don't like, it's the location. Though I don't mind it at all, even if it is more modern day than the rest of Sunset Blvd.

I think it fits in well also. And I'm sure they wouldn't move RnR, but I gave heard rumors of changing the theme of the ride. (hopefully not true)

 

[Beholder]

I hope they don't change the RnR theme, but I like the gangster idea. It thematically fits better and still has that "edgy" feel to it. Maybe something like Bonnie and Clyde, where the coaster is either in the car with them, or your'e the police giving chase. Create a shanty town with streetmosphere actors milling about spreading "rumors" about Bonnie and Clyde and maybe police officers asking about their whereabouts. All this could be placed in the open courtyard area before the ride queue. The ride music would be Foggy Mountain Breakdown. Of course!

The fact that they were bank robbing murderers probably wouldn't go over well with Disney.

 

[Kuhio]

The fact that they were bank robbing murderers probably wouldn't go over well with Disney.

If Disney can make people forget exactly how pirates made their livelihoods -- just how did they convince those townsfolk to hand over their valuables? and are they really chasing those women because food is foremost on their minds? -- they can probably do a little creative whitewashing of Bonnie and Clyde, no?

 

[Adam5897]

For me the biggest problem wouldn't be the changing of theme it would be completely removing the ride. I hope DHS intends to keep this ride for a whole because their is a lack of thrill rides at WDW has. I think if DHS gets a couple really good new thrills that they will get the edge over Universal. Because you can one day go to DHS (thrills) and the next MK (more family friendly but fun to enjoy)

 

[djlaosc]

I created a pool based on your thought about Mickey's Philharmagic not belonging in Magic Kingdom. The census is Mickey's Philharmagic belongs in Magic Kingdom despite the fact there is comments that it would be a great fit for DHS. I voted it belong in MK also before anyone else did.

There is multiples reasons why it fits for MK. The spot Mickey's Philharmagic is always had a stage show or a film. The 2nd thing is Mickey Mouse is identified with the Magic Kingdom despite the fact he is at other WDW parks including DHS. Mickey's presence is felt the most at MK. Hong Kong Disneyland and Tokyo Disneyland also have Philharmagic in Fantasyland. All three parks had a theater built for Fantasy land when the park open.

I do like a majority of your ideas though such as Pizza Planet Arcade being theme to the "Muppets". I thought Pizza Planet stood out like a sore thumb since Pixar Place opened.

I'm not trying to start an argument, but just thought I would respond to your points...

Don't get me wrong, I love PhilharMagic, but I've never really thought that it fit in Fantasyland - it is going from "Mickey's World" into other worlds/films - when Toontown was in MK, I always thought that it should have been added there instead.

You're first reason - just because something used to be something, does not always mean that it will be that thing - things get replaced, and are not always replaced by the same "attraction/ride system" - "20K Under the Sea" isn't getting replaced with another submarine ride, and SWSA is getting replaced by a meet 'n' greet - I would have kept/rethemed SWSA and put the Princess meet 'n' greet in where PhilharMagic is (and then we wouldn't be "losing" an attraction - it would just be moved to another park.)

You're second reason - taking PhilharMagic out of the equation, the Mickey Meet 'n' Greet is on Main Street, Dream Along with Mickey is classified as Fantasyland, but is really a "Hub" show on the opposite side of the castle to MP, and "The Great Goofini" and "Pete's Silly Sideshow" are in "Storybook Circus" (which is technically a part of Fantasyland, but at the opposite side of Fantasyland - the same problem people had with Peter Pan's Flight and Pixie Hollow on the old FLE Plans). I just thought that going into Animation Courtyard or a Toontown in DHS would be a better fit.

You're third reason - just because something is in a certain land at one park, does not mean that it will be placed in that land in other parks - The Haunted Mansion is in a different land in every park that it is in. TSMM and the Magic Carpets are in different lands in different parks as well.


Thanks for the compliment. Did Pizza Planet used to be called "Toy Story Pizza Planet" until Pixar Place and TSMM appeared? If so, they obviously realise that it doesn't fit as well!

 

[Vader2112]

If Disney can make people forget exactly how pirates made their livelihoods -- just how did they convince those townsfolk to hand over their valuables? and are they really chasing those women because food is foremost on their minds? -- they can probably do a little creative whitewashing of Bonnie and Clyde, no?

Or have a child murder (Darth Vader) participate in a school for young Jedi wanabes.

 

[rct247]

From what I understand, RnRC was originally going to be where Indiana Jones is nor or somewhere right behind it with the main coaster building where the current cast member costuming building and cast member parking lot are. It would have tied in with the area around 50s Prime Time Cafe and been given a more 50s rock n roll soundtrack. The reason it didn't happen was because they didn't want to remove Indy and also there were possibilities of the ground site picked not being able to support the weight of the coaster/building at risk of a sink hole opening up.

Still, I think they did a good job still trying to tie in RnRC to the surrounding area. The backstory that I was told was the G-Force records was a radio and record studio back in the late 1930s. All the big name radio stars and singers would come from all over and stay at the grand Hollywood Tower Hotel and perform at G-Force records below. (The building architecture is kind of art deco.) After the terrible incident at the Hollywood Tower Hotel in 1939 and with the popularity of television growing, G-Force records started losing interest. In the 1950s, they added the huge guitar outside to gain attention and with the surge of rock n' roll music it quickly rose back to the top producing records. As we come to the present day, we are tourists taking a tour of the legendary G-Force records. Tower of Terror is designed to fit with the 1940s feel of Sunset Blvd, but as we approach it, we start to shift into present day when the Tower has come back to life. So both RnRC and Tower are set in present day, but have backstories to relate back to the 1930s and 1940s.

 

[BryceM]

^Aha! That's what I thought.

And wow, that really does make even more sense now, how the both tie together so well. I think RnRC is perfect where it is at and I wouldn't have it any other way!

 

[bdearl41]

I think RnR works well, better than it would anywhere else in the park. I think something that is needed at HS is a connection between that part of the park and the Animation courtyard, this would help a lot with crowd control and provide a better flow through the park. It would be a perfect place between Sunset Market and the courtyard to clear out some of those pointless buildings and put in a quality toon town like the one at Disneyland with a couple kiddie rides and a D or E ticket ride. Another big ride here would help keep lines down at the major attractions throught out the park. Another good reason to do this is it would flow well. From Animation courtyard you could go back and to the right into toontown, or left into Pixar place (which should be renamed Pixar Ave.) There should be more than just one ride dedicated to Pixar in the area. Finally I would do away with the Indiana Jones Spectacular and put in an Indiana Jones E ticket. All of a sudden with two new rides and a new mini land. DHS becomes a packed full day park, for less than New fantasyland costs.

 

[Adam5897]

From Animation courtyard you could go back and to the right into toontown, or left into Pixar place (which should be renamed Pixar Ave.)

Why should it be renamed Pixar Ave? I think Pixar place is a great name

 

[TalkingHead]

Still, I think they did a good job still trying to tie in RnRC to the surrounding area. The backstory that I was told was the G-Force records was a radio and record studio back in the late 1930s. All the big name radio stars and singers would come from all over and stay at the grand Hollywood Tower Hotel and perform at G-Force records below. (The building architecture is kind of art deco.) After the terrible incident at the Hollywood Tower Hotel in 1939 and with the popularity of television growing, G-Force records started losing interest. In the 1950s, they added the huge guitar outside to gain attention and with the surge of rock n' roll music it quickly rose back to the top producing records. As we come to the present day, we are tourists taking a tour of the legendary G-Force records. Tower of Terror is designed to fit with the 1940s feel of Sunset Blvd, but as we approach it, we start to shift into present day when the Tower has come back to life. So both RnRC and Tower are set in present day, but have backstories to relate back to the 1930s and 1940s.

If that's the case, then ANYTHING in the parks could be justified because that story is just flat-out convoluted.

(Not to mention nothing at RNRC suggests the 30s and 40s--never got the sense that the building was sorta Deco.)

 

[ChrisFL]

If that's the case, then ANYTHING in the parks could be justified because that story is just flat-out convoluted.

(Not to mention nothing at RNRC suggests the 30s and 40s--never got the sense that the building was sorta Deco.)

The only thing that is to me is the signage out front right above the car, the font is very art-deco

 

[rct247]

The only thing that is to me is the signage out front right above the car, the font is very art-deco

In fact, the font used is the same font used in Tomorrowland at the Magic Kingdom.

 

[marni1971]

RnRC was always planned for Sunset. Just a different type of coaster.

Indy has an expansion pad behind it should they have wanted it there.

 

[Beholder]

Or have a child murder (Darth Vader) participate in a school for young Jedi wanabes.

I guess the real difference is Vader is an entirely fictional character and the "pirates"' are caricatures of real people, while Bonnie and Clyde were two very real individuals. In any event, Disney could/would sanitize it enough to fit with the rest of Disney's attraction line up.

 

[Goofnut1980]

Couldn't we just get rid of the big space that Indy takes up, and put a new Indy ride there. It could still use the "Dinosaur" sytle ride system, but a new story. Would that be terribly hard to do? Having been to the Indy ride in Disneyland, their queue is horrible. It had to have been built before fastpass, because you think you are skipping this big line, then BAM... you are waiting with everyone else from the door all the way to the ride!

 

[flynnibus]

Having been to the Indy ride in Disneyland, their queue is horrible. It had to have been built before fastpass, because you think you are skipping this big line, then BAM... you are waiting with everyone else from the door all the way to the ride!

It's one of the best queues in Disney history. Alas, when they added FP in DL they screwed it up like they did many things there (part of the reason DL locals despise FP so much..). The queue has two very impressive interactive gags (when they are working) and is quite exotic. But alas now due to their needs for egress, etc.. they keep FP merge outside the temple, which means you basically run through 80% of the queue forever.. until you get to the waiting area before the screening room.

It's an incredible thing - ruined by poor FP implementation by DL.

 

[Californian Elitist]

Couldn't we just get rid of the big space that Indy takes up, and put a new Indy ride there. It could still use the "Dinosaur" sytle ride system, but a new story. Would that be terribly hard to do? Having been to the Indy ride in Disneyland, their queue is horrible. It had to have been built before fastpass, because you think you are skipping this big line, then BAM... you are waiting with everyone else from the door all the way to the ride!

The level of detail in the queue is worth the long wait, in my opinion. Worth every minute of waiting time.

 

[ChrisFL]

Couldn't we just get rid of the big space that Indy takes up, and put a new Indy ride there. It could still use the "Dinosaur" sytle ride system, but a new story. Would that be terribly hard to do? Having been to the Indy ride in Disneyland, their queue is horrible. It had to have been built before fastpass, because you think you are skipping this big line, then BAM... you are waiting with everyone else from the door all the way to the ride!

Indiana Jones and the Nuked Fridge!