Details on Space Mountain Refurb

joel_maxwell

joel_maxwell

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brkgnews said:
I remember seeing them all stacked up at WDW Central Shops (that's where the work was being done), but I dunno if they were completely new or just getting fresh fiberglass
EDIT: Lee beat me to it with the real answer, rather than my wild guess. :)
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and you didnt get a pic :fork:

jackie!

:lol:
 
Expo_Seeker40

Expo_Seeker40

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WDW's space mountain has great potential for a story or some sort of story.....its been there in a way....the idea were are on a space station (we'll probably be called spacestation 75 :cool:) and we enter the space port....where in disneyland its a full and complete space port, which I'm sure they will make something for WDW when they enclose our space port, and then we head up the lift hill in the hanger for space station 75 as an RCA explorer ship gets serviced while controllers observe us (a very cool idea, dated, but certainly can be spruced up and redressed) and then we head off on a "Journey through space and time" before we encounter....what is it? a red worm hole? and then enter the space station and mysteriously encounter a post show that takes us back to earth.

We of course have more potential with our queue....I still love the effects in the zig zag windows, but they could easily be updated or upgraded....wheras disneyland only has posters of galaxies....so I'm sure the Imagineers will find something to give us an edge to disneyland's SM queue and postshow.

There's just something about the music, and the darkness, and mood the queue gives that could still work even as a redressed set, unlike disneylands sleek but very sterlie queue in terms of not really having a mood but rather a redressed queue.

:wave:

Oh man, I'm going to have to try and go to the MK be January to ride it one more time before we blast off into the future once again :D












watch them install touch screens and have a postshow with black curtains in this refurb :lookaroun
 
jt04

jt04

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STR8FAN2005 said:
I'd like to see the baby blue base covered with a rock facade.
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Great idea. It would be neat if it looked like it had been built into a crater. I also love the idea of lighting SM's exterior at night. I really like the minimalist white color by day (reflecting the Florida sun) but at night it would be great if SM was retrofitted with a light show.

So now we know there will be brand new track (same config) and brand new cars :D, so the only question is will they be single or side by side seating. I have mixed feelings about it. The bobsleds are nostalgic but the side by side (ala RnRC) seems more practical. :)
 
Buried20KLeague

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jt04 said:
Great idea. It would be neat if it looked like it had been built into a crater. I also love the idea of lighting SM's exterior at night. I really like the minimalist white color by day (reflecting the Florida sun) but at night it would be great if SM was retrofitted with a light show.

So now we know there will be brand new track (same config) and brand new cars :D, so the only question is will they be single or side by side seating. I have mixed feelings about it. The bobsleds are nostalgic but the side by side (ala RnRC) seems more practical. :)
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Just an educated guess... But I would think if they're going to keep the same track layout, they'd have to keep single row seating. Doubling the wideth of the trains mean doubling the width of the track... Which over a long period of track would probably mean MUCH more space required. Probably more than we would think. Plus that would require bulking up the support requred to handle all the extra weight... Plus changing clearances on the sides coming into and out of loading and unloading (which would mean they'd have to bust up all the concrete in place...

That's what I hope anyway. Love the single seating. :sohappy:
 
tirian

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The single-file seating will remain.

I like the rock façade base, but I vote for crystals (think of the Planet Krypton in the original "Superman" movie).
 
tirian

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brkgnews said:
I remember seeing them all stacked up at WDW Central Shops (that's where the work was being done), but I dunno if they were completely new or just getting fresh fiberglass
EDIT: Lee beat me to it with the real answer, rather than my wild guess. :)
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But one of the old DL rockets WAS brought to the MK's Space Mt. for...:zipit:...and it lived behind Space Mt. for a while, too, although not as long as Mr. Ham from Kitchen Kabaret lived inside the Haunted Mansion.

EDIT: I received some confused private messages about this. No, the DL rocket does not fit on WDW's track, and I didn't mean to imply that at all.
 
Slowjack

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Fun2BFree said:
I dunno... I always thought the arcade building looked quite nice- perhaps the travelator and arcade building could be combined into an extended post-show with more ambitious show scenes? :shrug:
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Yeah, I think the arcade building matches the "new" Tomorrowland look better than SM itself.
 
doop

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Just got a chance to read this.

I know this is all up for speculation, but that's what I want out of a Space Mountain refurbishment. I like the fact that they're keeping the trains single rider, that's something about SM that I've always enjoyed.
 
joel_maxwell

joel_maxwell

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doop said:
Just got a chance to read this.

I know this is all up for speculation, but that's what I want out of a Space Mountain refurbishment. I like the fact that they're keeping the trains single rider, that's something about SM that I've always enjoyed.
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i concur. i have always liked that feature as well.
 
DisneyJunkie

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Right now I'm just grateful that this major rehab is taking place AFTER my September trip.....so I have a chance to ride it - period, and so I get a last chance to enjoy it in its current classic state. I'm among those who does not want the bgm to change either going into the ride or exiting. I'm just glad I have full MP3s of both of those tunes. I'm also in agreement with those who say they need to keep the ride cars as one-seaters each (which they're apparently doing anyway). And as odd a thing as it may be to say......I hope they're not planning on replacing the HVAC system. One of the most distinctive smells, for me, in all of WDW is that of the inside of Space Mountain. Please update the ride while leaving the little things alone!
 
Expo_Seeker40

Expo_Seeker40

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yes the star tunnel music is original from 1975 as well as the groovy moog music played in the dark zig zag queue :wave:

there has been music that no longer plays in space mountain, for example there was an orchestral version of RCA's theme song "here's to the future and you" played in the sloping ramp we head down when we enter the building, as well as additional music and lyrics to the song played in the post show.

In 1985 this all changed to a new RCA campaign song "We've come so far". The orchestral part still plays in the entrance room, while the post show now features music from disneyland's 2005 space mountain soundtrack.

the unload room for the space mountain rollercoaster had also featured groovy tomorrowland area music such as bubble shuffle and other songs, also gone now.

So all that's left is the original 1975 star tunnel and moog music and 1985
we've come so far orchestral music heard in the entrance queue. :wave:
 
Expo_Seeker40

Expo_Seeker40

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....and another thing to jog people's memories....do any of you remember when the flooring in the queue....atleast the entrance queue with the sloping ramp was made up of black 3D circles popping up through the floor? The only reason why I remember this was due to my first ride on space mountain in 1996 and remember looking down at the floor and noticing the pattern because it was the same floor pattern used at a local movie theater near my home (the theater was from the 60s or 70s). :wave:
 
Magicot

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Expo_Seeker40 said:
....and another thing to jog people's memories....do any of you remember when the flooring in the queue....atleast the entrance queue with the sloping ramp was made up of black 3D circles popping up through the floor? The only reason why I remember this was due to my first ride on space mountain in 1996 and remember looking down at the floor and noticing the pattern because it was the same floor pattern used at a local movie theater near my home (the theater was from the 60s or 70s). :wave:
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I remember them. Aren't they still there? They look like a black ball pit, right?

Thanks for the SM music info too!
 
Expo_Seeker40

Expo_Seeker40

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the black ball pit is still there, I was talking about the actual floor surface for the queue lines, which I am sure used to be the one I described and then in a later refurb, probably the one in the late 90s when they added fast pass, they redid the flooring
 
jt04

jt04

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tirian said:
The single-file seating will remain.

I like the rock façade base, but I vote for crystals (think of the Planet Krypton in the original "Superman" movie).
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I like the idea if they can find a way to keep the material from deteriorating. It would look cool but unfortunately plastics don't "age" well and are expensive to replace. Remeber the crystal icons in front of SSE? They ended up cracking for that reason. Cement rock work lasts forever as long as it is painted regularly. Let's just hope they do something. It really would help the look of Tomorrowland if they did.
 

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