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DinoInstitute

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So, someone explained quite well how FP impacts lines. The interesting things is that SE can only handle X number of rides. So, FP+ doesn't impact that capacity per se. However, in my opinion, the impact is on the line not moving consistently. You start moving and then FP groups come in. So, the line stalls (although, if you're the one with the FP you feel pretty happy). Then, the group passes through and then the line starts moving. So, SE's wait times are longer for stand-by to accommodate FP when, if the ride was off of FP, the line times would be a little shorter but would move. I don't know if Tiering is impacting it or not. Bear all this in mind that I do not like the FP+ process at all. I'd rather show up and wait in lines without the aggravation of FP.
Honestly this is a huge operational problem throughout the whole resort. They give out way too many FPs, and give too much precedence to them at most attractions’ merge points. I don’t mind FP as a concept but this seriously needs to be addressed.
 

trainplane3

Well-Known Member
Honestly this is a huge operational problem throughout the whole resort. They give out way too many FPs, and give too much precedence to them at most attractions’ merge points. I don’t mind FP as a concept but this seriously needs to be addressed.
This is part of it.

Last year I went to the front desk to get tickets for the Hoop-dee-doo revue. CM working the desk was asking me about my plans for the day we're going to the show. I said "Oh we're going over to Epcot, ride Test Track, UoE, SSE, and M:S for sure. We'll do anything that's like an hour or less". She asked why I wasn't doing Soarin' and I said we chose TT over it and since they're both tier 1 and it pulls 1+ hour waits, we weren't planning on it. She came back and said we have a FP for Soarin' that could be used for anytime on that day. I didn't even imply I wanted a FP for it.

It was a nice surprise but this is part of the problem.
 

TheDuke

Well-Known Member
Hopefully the changes are minimal aside from getting rid of the awful cartoon ending and fixing the script. Dench's voiceover was fine but the script was just so dumbed down. The Irons one was perfect, I was able to understand it when I was a 4-5 year old and it also worked for adults. This one feels like it's talking down to the audience and trying to over simplify everything. It's still one of the best dark rides, though.
 

yensidtlaw1969

Well-Known Member
Judi Dench or the ghost of Walter Cronkite would both be fine. It needs a new script, a new ending, and a good overall dusting. It’s got the opening day cred and 75% of it is still a masterpiece. Less is more, IMO, when they get around to the next version.

On the whole, I think I would be pretty fine with it if in the next SSE Refurb they worked on the descent exclusively. I personally would do away with the scenes after The Moon Landing and before the 180 Top, but could live with them if they brought us back to a descent that was genuinely stirring, and gave us *SOMETHING* to look at. Everything before that is basically fine the way it is.

This is assuming a new script is included, of course.

And . . . I've preferred earlier versions of the score . . .
 

DreamfinderGuy

Well-Known Member
I just got off of Spaceship Earth and noticed something odd, for the first time ever I could visibly see multiple illuminated Exit signs from on-ride. They were pretty bright and lit up small areas such as the abandoned sections of the decent. Are these new or am I just blind?
 

yensidtlaw1969

Well-Known Member
Bob Zalk?
Jason Surrell?

We could list people all day.

I don't care WHO does it, as long as it's quality. Every iteration until the current one has asked a little of the riders, this one panders to them in a corny way that betrays the masterful concept of the attraction. Ray Freakin' Bradbury was consulted on the original. Head back towards those roots and the ride could be golden again.
 

TJJohn12

Well-Known Member
...I personally would do away with the scenes after The Moon Landing and before the 180 Top...

I think I'd settle for the screen of the TV in the moon landing scene actually working - that happening in 2017 was the most egregious bad show I've had on the ascent in SSE. The "code tunnel" is a little of a dated fast-forward now, but not terrible - just needs to look a little less Matrix-y.

I'd also increase the lumens on the Mammoth projectors, but that's been a perennial problem since this latest iteration debuted.
 

MisterPenguin

President of Animal Kingdom
Premium Member
I think I'd settle for the screen of the TV in the moon landing scene actually working - that happening in 2017 was the most egregious bad show I've had on the ascent in SSE. The "code tunnel" is a little of a dated fast-forward now, but not terrible - just needs to look a little less Matrix-y.

I'd also increase the lumens on the Mammoth projectors, but that's been a perennial problem since this latest iteration debuted.

Ugh. Another ride with SCREENZ!!!


;)
 

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