Dead Monsters?

[WDW1974]

Apparently.

The word from Glendale is the Monsters doors coaster for TPFKaTD-MGMS is dead. Completely.

Apparently, TDO has decided that park doesn't need added capacity (under what hallucinogens they were under when they came to that conclusion is anyone's guess).

Almost all money coming to WDW is going to MK (and at this point, I don't disagree with that at all).

Star Tours 2.0 is obviously on the way. And I've been told a few 'smallish' projects could come to EPCOT.

But that's it.

The money is going to the stalest MK of them all ... and I'm not gonna criticize it.

But it does look like they are trying to kill the Studios. That park is gonna be the one that hurts the most from WWoHP, you watch.

People aren't gonna ever give up MK or EPCOT ... but those other Disney parks? Well, that's a different story.

As always, things can change. Disney did recently buy the domain 'MONSTERS2.com' so obviously a sequel is on the way and that could revive this coaster ... but for now, that appears very unlikely.

 

[EpcotServo]

Will Studios hurt from Harry Potter? Nope. Not anymore than the other three at least. Does Studios need the ride? Yes, if only to add to the already great selection of shows and attractions, as well as expanding into the most empty part of the park still remaining. Does the lack of this ride coming hurt the park? No. Am I mad it's not coming?



Furious.

 

[The Conundrum]

Can't wait to see how the DOM's try to spin this one. Yet another foolish move on Disney's part Oh well maybe one day DHS will get a scaled down version of the new Ratatouille E-ticket that just got greenlit for Paris

Will Studios hurt from Harry Potter? Nope. Not anymore than the other three at least. Does Studios need the ride? Yes, if only to add to the already great selection of shows and attractions, as well as expanding into the most empty part of the park still remaining. Does the lack of this ride coming hurt the park? No. Am I mad it's not coming?

Of the 4 Disney parks DHS will suffer the most from Harry Potter. If guests are only coming for 4 or 5 days they will skip the Disney Studios and visit the Universal Studios instead. Star Tours 2 is not enough to save DHS. DHS needs Star Tours/Indiana Jones/Pixar triple whammy to compete with Harry Potter.I guess the rumor mongers wishing for Mysterious Island can kiss that dream good bye as well.

 

[krankenstein]

That's shocking! I had Monsters was basically locked in. :dazzle: I'm not going to criticize them for giving stuff to MK (I love the idea of it and think it is in the most need), but DHS could REALLY use that coaster.

I'm guessing Imagination is off again than?

 

[CaptainMichael]

Meh, I'd rather a Monsters coaster than a forest of glorified meet-and-greets.

I agree with '74 that WWoHP will win the battle for a family trying to decide between IoA and DHS. They should have timed Star Tours to reopen next year.

 

[The Conundrum]

I'm guessing Imagination is off again than?

you betcha

 

[CaptainMichael]

That's shocking! I had Monsters was basically locked in. :dazzle: I'm going to criticize them for giving stuff to MK, but DHS could REALLY use that coaster.

I'm guessing Imagination is off again than?

Nothing shocks me anymore. After the Adventurers Club closed, I was made immune to "shocking" news. DHS needed *something* and at least Star Tours 2.0 is coming (someday).

As for EPCOT, I'd say they'll try to finish SSE and work on the asthetics of Future World for now (removal of remaining millenium crap, painting, etc)

 

[The Conundrum]

Nothing shocks me anymore. After the Adventurers Club closed, I was made immune to "shocking" news. DHS needed *something* and at least Star Tours 2.0 is coming (someday).

As for EPCOT, I'd say they'll try to finish SSE and work on the asthetics of Future World for now (removal of remaining millenium crap, painting, etc)

Actually as far as Disney is concerned SSE is complete and no further work will be done on it (at least nothing planned in the near future)
Also, expect some cuts to those "lavish" fantasyland blueprints

 

[krankenstein]

As for EPCOT, I'd say they'll try to finish SSE and work on the asthetics of Future World for now (removal of remaining millenium crap, painting, etc)

That's what I'm thinking.

 

[WDW1974]

I don't know about Imagination per se. But the implication I got (and I trust my source on this implicitly) is that all the WDW $$$ are going to MK.

And I'll just repeat what I've said a zillion times about DAK expansion -- it's not happening for the forseeable future. No matter how many rumors and threads pop up.

 

[The Conundrum]

I don't know about Imagination per se. But the implication I got (and I trust my source on this implicitly) is that all the WDW $$$ are going to MK.

And I'll just repeat what I've said a zillion times about DAK expansion -- it's not happening for the forseeable future. No matter how many rumors and threads pop up.

Somewhere in the New Mexican wilderness...Jt's heart...is breaking

 

[Missing20K]

Actually as far as Disney is concerned SSE is complete and no further work will be done on it (at least nothing planned in the near future)
Also, expect some cuts to those "lavish" fantasyland blueprints

Such as?? And why do you think that? Inside source? Or educated guess?

Also, it is too bad they have stopped the Monsters, Inc. coaster from being created. Could have been really neat, and it was much needed in the park. I still love the studios (I can't call it MGM anymore, and can't call it Hollywood, so....) but it could use another, dare I say it, Pixar attraction, just to give the area a more complete feel. One ride and Luxo and some nice brickwork, doesn't make a very complete "land."

 

[CaptainMichael]

Actually as far as Disney is concerned SSE is complete and no further work will be done on it (at least nothing planned in the near future)
Also, expect some cuts to those "lavish" fantasyland blueprints

I choose to believe Lee and Marni:wave: When the new fiscal year begins, there should be money to finish SSE.

Somewhere in the New Mexican wilderness...Jt's heart...is breaking

"I shot the Sheriff, but I didn't shoot the deputy..."

 

[EpcotServo]

Of the 4 Disney parks DHS will suffer the most from Harry Potter. If guests are only coming for 4 or 5 days they will skip the Disney Studios and visit the Universal Studios instead. Star Tours 2 is not enough to save DHS. DHS needs Star Tours/Indiana Jones/Pixar triple whammy to compete with Harry Potter.I guess the rumor mongers wishing for Mysterious Island can kiss that dream good bye as well.

A: No.

A (Epilogue): Why? because it has two power thrill rides, Several Kids shows, Dozens of shows the whole family can enjoy, a hit dark ride with uber-rerideability and an already proven crowd pleaser, A must-see Fireworks/Nighttime Entertainment show, three of the most reserved restaurants on property, several more D and C Tickets, constantly talked about atmospheric entertainment, and if planned correctly, can be done in an entire day?

Yeah. No. If people who are coming to DAK/EPCOT/KINGDOM, they're also going to AT MINIMUM park hop over for a few rides if they don't want to see everything.

Studios is ONLY lacking to people who don't go the park, but talk bad about it to look like they have serious opinions on things and enjoy acting like they have a wealth of Disney Knowledge and (furthermore) deserve it. Anyone who goes down to Studios these days can see the park's doing just fine. In upkeep, attendance, and guest satisfaction. It's a myth, a Disney Urban Legend, that Circa 2009, Studios is a "lacking park". Heck, it survived and came out stronger from a horrible name change. Anything contrary is all just a shot in a dark room from a million miles away.

 

[WDWFigment]

Will Studios hurt from Harry Potter? Nope. Not anymore than the other three at least. Does Studios need the ride? Yes, if only to add to the already great selection of shows and attractions, as well as expanding into the most empty part of the park still remaining. Does the lack of this ride coming hurt the park? No. Am I mad it's not coming?
Furious.

Why wouldn't the Studios be the one to hurt the most? Sure, we here are savvy enough to know that Universal and DHS are dramatically different, but the casual guest, never having visited either and having 4 days to allocate between Universal and WDW? It seems that they would often choose to cut the duplicitous park, and that would (to their logic) be the "extra" Studios park.

As for the actual news, my expectations are low at this point. When and if anything is officially announced this year, I will be pleasantly surprised.

 

[The Conundrum]

I choose to believe Lee and Marni:wave: When the new fiscal year begins, there should be money to finish SSE.

Thats fine just remember what I said next year at this time =D

I shot the Sheriff, but I didn't shoot the deputy..."

lmao

 

[WDWFigment]

A: No.

A (Epilogue): Why? because it has two power thrill rides, Several Kids shows, Dozens of shows the whole family can enjoy, a hit dark ride with uber-rerideability and an already proven crowd pleaser, A must-see Fireworks/Nighttime Entertainment show, three of the most reserved restaurants on property, several more D and C Tickets, constant talked about atmospheric entertainment, and if planned correctly, can be done in an entire day?

Yeah. No. If people are coming to DAK/EPCOT/KINGDOM, they're also going to AT MINIMUM park hop over for a few rides if they don't want to see everything.

Studios is ONLY lacking to people who don't go the park, but talk bad about it to look like they have serious opinions on things and enjoy acting like they have a wealth of Disney Knowledge and (furthermore) deserve it. Anyone who goes down to Studios these days can see the park's doing just fine. In upkeep, attendance, and guest satisfaction. It's a myth, a Disney Urban Legend, that Circa 2009, Studios is a "lacking park". Heck, it survived and came out stronger from a horrible name change. Anything contrary is all just a shot in a dark room from a million miles away.

Let's toss aside all of the above as irrelevant to most "once in a lifetime visitors" (irrelevant in that they wouldn't know any of this one way or the other). I think they will likely not go to DHS (if they are skipping any one park) because of the word "Studios" in the title, and they will have "already seen Universal Studios, why go to another Studio?"

To more informed guests, I agree with you. There are enough uninformed guests to make a difference, though.

 

[EpcotServo]

Let's toss aside all of the above as irrelevant to most "once in a lifetime visitors" (irrelevant in that they wouldn't know any of this one way or the other). I think they will likely not go to DHS (if they are skipping any one park) because of the word "Studios" in the title, and they will have "already seen Universal Studios, why go to another Studio?"

To more informed guests, I agree with you. There are enough uninformed guests to make a difference, though.

If you've spent time on the frontlines at Studios, those that uninformed ALWAYS assume Studios is Universal Studios.

"Where is Back to the Future?"
-Most asked question at Star Tours, still to this day

Anyways, if they're uninformed and have young spawn, they'll probably end up regretting going to Universal Studios if their kid can't meet any of the gajillion hight requirements Disney Studios does not have.

 

[WDWFigment]

If you've spent time on the frontlines at Studios, those that uninformed ALWAYS assume Studios is Universal Studios.

"Where is Back to the Future?"
-Most asked question at Star Tours, still to this day

Doesn't that sort of go to my point (although we do have to assume that some of these uninformed guests are minimally intelligent enough to differentiate DHS from Universal Studios)?

 

[The Conundrum]

Outside of MK, DHS is the most stale theme park I have ever seen. Star Tours, Backlot tram tour, sounds dangerous, and half the other stuff in the park have long outstayed there welcome. Tower of Terror still a big draw but its so old now and they haven't really added any major e-ticket since (Rock N Roller is just meh). Don't even get me started on American idol. Universal has the studio park + Islands of Adventure packed to the hilt with rides, shows and attractions. More importantly they have NEW, technologically advanced rides with Harry Potter at the centerpiece.DHS will be no match.