Dca Stealing From Wdw?!!

[chinitopoop]

Being that a budget of over a billion dollars has recently been approved for DCA what does that mean for WDW? Is DCA taking too much and not leaving WDW with enough? The only rumors or announcements I have heard for WDW is an updated Star Tours, Toy Story Mania, and possibly a Ratatouille themed Crush's Coaster, Nothing substantial IMO, What, if any, are the plans to compete with harry potter at Islands of adventure? Is WDW getting anything substantial (like expedition everest) anytime soon? It just seems to me that Disneyland is getting the majority of the attention and finances and IMHO I think its because "uncle John" has a certain affinity to disneyland and not disneyworld...Your thoughts? and does anyone know is wdw is getting anything good anytime soon? hopefully non pixar related! (not that i have a problem with pixar, its just overkill ).... but anyway Your thoughts? Rumors? Announcements? anything ?!


(and please people, no fighting, I have seen too many people get defensive over non offensive things on these boards, please lets try to stick to the subject of the discussion?

 

[Since1976]

I think the DLR is due for some love and attention.

As far as the general public is concerned (most of whom only visit WDW once every 2 or 3 years (if that). Expedition Everest *just* opened, and is still a new attraction.

 

[Champion]

They have different budgets.

Don't worry.

 

[haveyoumetmark]

They have different budgets.

Don't worry.

Quoted for truth.

DCA's money doesn't have much to do with WDW....

 

[mousermerf]

WDW's parks pretty much pay for themselves. DCA is getting money from the company because it's not paying for itself. If the idea of theft was true, DL-proper would be in real trouble, but that's not true. There is planned developement for the park in the next few years.

 

[chinitopoop]

really? so that billion dollars doesnt have any affect on what they want to do in wdw? Does anyone know anything big that is being planned for wdw? anything substantial?

 

[ImaYoyo]

really? so that billion dollars doesnt have any affect on what they want to do in wdw? Does anyone know anything big that is being planned for wdw? anything substantial?

Correct, a Billion Dollars over 5 years does not have any effect on WDW. The amount of revenue generated from all things WDW; Merchandise, F&B, Tix, Rooms, Convention revenue, ect ect is PLENTY to support the parks' growth w/out needing money from mommy and daddy (TWDC).

 

[KingMickey]

There are rumors of different attractions for all over the parks. There's rumor of a Ratatouille coaster at DHS along with a whole bunch of other stuff, a nighttime parade for AK, and there's always plans for that explansion plot behind Fantasyland.

I do agree with you when you say that Disneyland seems to get A LOT more attention than WDW. It seems as if they always open a new, major attraction every year. And they always get the refurbs for their attractions sooner than ours. I mean, Disneyland got their Haunted Mansion refurb nearly 2 years before WDW.

I'm not saying that WDW's Imagineers are working too slow, it's just that it would be nice to show some love once in a while.

 

[Brian_WDW74]

I do agree with you when you say that Disneyland seems to get A LOT more attention than WDW. It seems as if they always open a new, major attraction every year. And they always get the refurbs for their attractions sooner than ours. I mean, Disneyland got their Haunted Mansion refurb nearly 2 years before WDW.

I'm not sure I agree with this. Since the beginning of 2006, WDW has gotten Expedition Everest, The Seas with Nemo and Friends, and Monsters Inc. Laugh Floor. During that same period, DLR has gotten Finding Nemo Submarine Voyage and what else? I do agree that their rides get refurbed before ours. But as many people have pointed out, DLR has a bigger need to keep their parks fresh for the locals. :wave:

 

[SDav10495]

Well it's not entirely true that the money being thrown at DCA will have no effect on WDW's growth, is it? True, separate budgets means WDW has nothing to worry about in terms of financial growth and staying fully operational day-to-day. But it's only natural that DCA will be "stealing" a little from a creative standpoint. When one park gets as much attention as DCA will be getting it makes sense that some creative ideas originally envisioned for, say, MK--rides, shows, restaurants, little touches--will be put into the pipeline for DCA and thus will not materialize over in Florida...at least for the time being.

The flip side, of course, is that in the long run this means that WDI will be pumping out new ideas for DCA that might then eventually be duplicated in some of the parks they were originally intended for. More creative development in Glendale today is always a good thing for the Florida parks a few years down the road.

In the short term, however, you can bet that WDW will miss out on a few creative touches--however small--that are now being fastracked for DCA. I just find it hard to believe that a project the size of DCA 2.0 will really not "steal" anything from WDW, at least creatively.

 

[jt04]

Well it's not entirely true that the money being thrown at DCA will have no effect on WDW's growth, is it? True, separate budgets means WDW has nothing to worry about in terms of financial growth and staying fully operational day-to-day. But it's only natural that DCA will be "stealing" a little from a creative standpoint. When one park gets as much attention as DCA will be getting it makes sense that some creative ideas originally envisioned for, say, MK--rides, shows, restaurants, little touches--will be put into the pipeline for DCA and thus will not materialize over in Florida...at least for the time being.

The flip side, of course, is that in the long run this means that WDI will be pumping out new ideas for DCA that might then eventually be duplicated in some of the parks they were originally intended for. More creative development in Glendale today is always a good thing for the Florida parks a few years down the road.

In the short term, however, you can bet that WDW will miss out on a few creative touches--however small--that are now being fastracked for DCA. I just find it hard to believe that a project the size of DCA 2.0 will really not "steal" anything from WDW, at least creatively.

I agree 100% but just wanted to add that I believe the reason so much emphasis at WDW is on the infrastructure, maintenance and removals is because the creative folks are busy elsewhere. But "soon" attention will turn back to WDW and we will see plans for DHS and after that, I believe, there will be a building era that will last a long time. IMHO of course.

 

[EpcotServo]

I'm so mad DCA is ganking our MGM gates......they already have a great park, and now their stealing our ride systems and details?



This is going to hurt if WDW doesn't start doing more...
:brick:

 

[Nicole220]

I'm so mad DCA is ganking our MGM gates......

I agree.
I don't care for them...they look tacky and misplaced imho... :shrug:
What happened to the crafty wood entrance?!

they already have a great park

You're in the minority there (I sorta feel the same as you), but the attendance numbers don't back up your opinion.
While the park is considered 'good' for some, it is seriously lacking.

 

[chinitopoop]

it just sucks because it seems like disneyland already has so much more compared to mk and now theyre adding even more of the "quality" attractions us wdw geeks long for, like a little mermaid ride, WE CAN REALLY USE THAT IN MK! MK only has like wut 3 or 4 dark rides? and then dca is also getting the cars land, which looks to be pretty good, and all we get is a blander version of toy story mania and a star tours update? it makes me hope that harry potter steals some of disney's guests, maybe then imagineers will take notice and actually do something as big as harry potter world

 

[Nicole220]

it just sucks because it seems like disneyland already has so much more compared to mk and now theyre adding even more of the "quality" attractions us wdw geeks long for, like a little mermaid ride, WE CAN REALLY USE THAT IN MK! MK only has like wut 3 or 4 dark rides? and then dca is also getting the cars land, which looks to be pretty good, and all we get is a blander version of toy story mania and a star tours update? it makes me hope that harry potter steals some of disney's guests, maybe then imagineers will take notice and actually do something as big as harry potter world

But WDW has 4 parks, 2 water parks, and a bunch of hotels.
DL has 2 parks and 3 hotels (2 of which aren't up to WDW standards).

A regular guest/ tourist at WDW probably won't notice the conditions of the rides. Locals at DL will. They need to update rides to keep us coming back. WDW has no problem getting people in their parks.

 

[chinitopoop]

^your right i guess, i think i'm just jealous of how much attention dca is getting, and how wdw isnt getting anything nearly as big, it just frustrates me the fact that they can do soo much more with wdw, especially with all the space theyre blessed with but they choose to just play it safe and create these little attractions surrounded by alot of hype, but at the least i was expecting disney to announce "beastly kingdom" or something as big to compete with harry potter, and they havent done anything of the sort, theyre just renaming the studios, is that all we should expect? a renaming of a park? with 2 added d-ticket pixar rides? call me greedy but i was excpecting more

 

[ImaYoyo]

Not necessarily. Remember, WDI does have offices in Celebration and in Lake Buena Vista. And there's so much creative talent in the company that there's no way EVERYONE is headed on board with DCA. I haven't heard of a single person locally moving out to Cali for this.

Well it's not entirely true that the money being thrown at DCA will have no effect on WDW's growth, is it? True, separate budgets means WDW has nothing to worry about in terms of financial growth and staying fully operational day-to-day. But it's only natural that DCA will be "stealing" a little from a creative standpoint. When one park gets as much attention as DCA will be getting it makes sense that some creative ideas originally envisioned for, say, MK--rides, shows, restaurants, little touches--will be put into the pipeline for DCA and thus will not materialize over in Florida...at least for the time being.

The flip side, of course, is that in the long run this means that WDI will be pumping out new ideas for DCA that might then eventually be duplicated in some of the parks they were originally intended for. More creative development in Glendale today is always a good thing for the Florida parks a few years down the road.

In the short term, however, you can bet that WDW will miss out on a few creative touches--however small--that are now being fastracked for DCA. I just find it hard to believe that a project the size of DCA 2.0 will really not "steal" anything from WDW, at least creatively.

 

[DizFanatic]

I understand all the feelings. We went to DCA in 2005 and we felt that it was a good start, but it was starving for more stuff. So i think it's a great thing and hopefullt the new cars & mermaid rides are truely first class. Then I hope they clont them to WDW (I know some of you hate clones, bit look at Lights, motors action! and why deprive the rest of the world from things like tower of terror, etc)

OK, before I get on a soap box, let me just say, "I'm happy for DCA". And yes, I too hope that it doesn't steel from WDW.

Have a great Friday all!!!:wave:

 

[Tigerdaly]

They have different budgets.

Don't worry.

As big as Disney is, $1 billion ain't sitting in no budget. That kind of dosh has to be raised from somewhere. You dont nip into the housekeeping pot for $1 billion.
"Dont Worry".....................you say.
That money will have to be taken from elsewhere in the business, and without fail, somewhere else will not get its allocation of funds.
When corperate decissions are made on this magnitude, all of the business is going to have to pull in the same direction to be able to service such a commitment.
Lets hope it isn't at the expense of other park improvements.
Happy Holidays

 

[Champion]

As big as Disney is, $1 billion ain't sitting in no budget. That kind of dosh has to be raised from somewhere. You dont nip into the housekeeping pot for $1 billion.
"Dont Worry".....................you say.
That money will have to be taken from elsewhere in the business, and without fail, somewhere else will not get its allocation of funds.
When corperate decissions are made on this magnitude, all of the business is going to have to pull in the same direction to be able to service such a commitment.
Lets hope it isn't at the expense of other park improvements.
Happy Holidays

Its over 5 years. $200 million a year for a company the size of TWDC isn't really that much.

Again, the two resorts have different budgets. As others have said, WDW pays for itself.

Don't worry.