Dca Stealing From Wdw?!!

[ImaYoyo]

As big as Disney is, $1 billion ain't sitting in no budget. That kind of dosh has to be raised from somewhere. You dont nip into the housekeeping pot for $1 billion.
"Dont Worry".....................you say.
That money will have to be taken from elsewhere in the business, and without fail, somewhere else will not get its allocation of funds.
When corperate decissions are made on this magnitude, all of the business is going to have to pull in the same direction to be able to service such a commitment.
Lets hope it isn't at the expense of other park improvements.
Happy Holidays

I'm assuming a lot of these thoughts are coming from folks that don't work with TWDC. Here's the best picture I can give. Imagine 2 franchised McDonalds restaurants. The franchises have separate owners (read "Presidents"), do their own individual marketing, but also have blanket marketing for McDonalds. (Individual park marketing vs Disney Parks). They also share similar menus (rides, attractions), but many have their own unique items as well. Though the same people come up with new sandwiches and items (McDonalds chefs, R&D, ect compared to WDI in Cali), there are also people who make these decisions on a regional or local basis (WDI in FL vs WDI in Cali/Paris, ect).

I can understand how that's difficult to make sense of from the outside, but believe me, 200 million a year will not be coming straight out of WDW's wallet, nor will it have any effect on future development plans.

 

[ChrisFL]

I'm so mad DCA is ganking our MGM gates......they already have a great park, and now their stealing our ride systems and details?

They have a great park in DL, but they have DCA too which needs a TON of help to even be worthy of the Disney name

 

[wickedfan07]

it just sucks because it seems like disneyland already has so much more compared to mk and now theyre adding even more of the "quality" attractions us wdw geeks long for, like a little mermaid ride, WE CAN REALLY USE THAT IN MK! MK only has like wut 3 or 4 dark rides? and then dca is also getting the cars land, which looks to be pretty good, and all we get is a blander version of toy story mania and a star tours update? it makes me hope that harry potter steals some of disney's guests, maybe then imagineers will take notice and actually do something as big as harry potter world

The Imagineers probably have at least three different ideas for new "lands" they could built to combat Harryland. But the Imagineers don't write the checks that get attractions built. Its not their fault that everything they dream up isn't built in the parks around the world.


If the second DL gate had been built as intended (WestCot), or Imagineering was given more time and money to build DCA, Disney would not need to throw over a billlion dollars at it right now. WDW does not have the same problems as DCA does (severely lacking attendance), therefore, WDW is not going to get $1 billion thrown at it right now. Disney isn't giving DCA a billion just for kicks - they're trying to fix its problems. Will WDW suffer...not really. Will DL gain...heck yes.

 

[Champion]

If the second DL gate had been built as intended (WestCot), or Imagineering was given more time and money to build DCA, Disney would not need to throw over a billlion dollars at it right now. WDW does not have the same problems as DCA does (severely lacking attendance), therefore, WDW is not going to get $1 billion thrown at it right now. Disney isn't giving DCA a billion just for kicks - they're trying to fix its problems. Will WDW suffer...not really. Will DL gain...heck yes.

Ah, but they WOULD have spent that money originally (or since), so its not really like they are spending extra. They are spending what they should have spent originally.

This is where Parks and Resorts is going to be going for the next 8-10 years. Spending tons of money in the existing parks to make them even better.

Would you complain if they said they were going to spend $1b in 5 years upgrading DHS? No, of course not. But it needs a lot of help getting up to date, same as DCA. And while $1b might be a little high, DHS will be getting lots of money spent at it in the next 5-10 years.

 

[wickedfan07]

Ah, but they WOULD have spent that money originally (or since), so its not really like they are spending extra. They are spending what they should have spent originally.
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Would you complain if they said they were going to spend $1b in 5 years upgrading DHS? No, of course not. But it needs a lot of help getting up to date, same as DCA. And while $1b might be a little high, DHS will be getting lots of money spent at it in the next 5-10 years.

I agree with you; that's what I meant when I posted. I'm glad that DCA is getting the attention it needs; I'm not complaining about it. I'm excitied to see the changes that come to both DCA and DHS. If a billion is what it takes to get DCA up to where it needs to be, they should spend a billion and do it right. :wave:

 

[mousermerf]

I'm assuming a lot of these thoughts are coming from folks that don't work with TWDC. Here's the best picture I can give. Imagine 2 franchised McDonalds restaurants. The franchises have separate owners (read "Presidents"), do their own individual marketing, but also have blanket marketing for McDonalds. (Individual park marketing vs Disney Parks). They also share similar menus (rides, attractions), but many have their own unique items as well. Though the same people come up with new sandwiches and items (McDonalds chefs, R&D, ect compared to WDI in Cali), there are also people who make these decisions on a regional or local basis (WDI in FL vs WDI in Cali/Paris, ect).

I can understand how that's difficult to make sense of from the outside, but believe me, 200 million a year will not be coming straight out of WDW's wallet, nor will it have any effect on future development plans.

I think a really simplified view is 2 kids and their parent.

One kid is busy with a job, supporting them self, and every so often their parent sends a gift. Money borrowed is paid back quickly, and otherwise child is self sufficient.

Other kid, not so self relient, having trouble, wrecked their car, and calls parent for help. Parent forks out a large sum, knowing with the car the kid can get to work and will eventually pay the money back.

It really has no effect on the first kid's life. He can buy a new TV, a stereo, etc on his own income. He can't buy a new car yet though. If he goes to parent, he will be told the money is a little tight - and your car works just fine.

Rebuilding 50% of DCA is new-car level purchase. Installing most new rides and refurbs is a much smaller purchase, like a stereo or TV.

Attractions like M:S that cost a fortune (a new car) come every so often, and require a loan from the parent. It gets paid back quickly. However, sometimes the responsible/functional kid can afford it on their own (why WDW often gets more in rapid succession).