Damage Control PR Spin for Star Wars Begins

Dead2009

Dead2009

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TROR said:
Whether it's a month or ten years, this land's a dud with nothing fun to do. The Falcon's boring and, until Rise of the Resistance opens, that's the only ride that doesn't cost at least $100.
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Then go do everything else in the park or don't go at all. If you're only dropping hundreds of dollars to see one mini land inside a theme park then you're doing it for all the wrong reasons. Waste of time and money.
 
THE 1HAPPY HAUNT

THE 1HAPPY HAUNT

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WDW Pro said:
Since you seem to struggle with that new thing called Bing and Google, I'll help you out with what publicly leaked from what I know:

Here's an article from when it leaked that Trevorrow was fired for wanting Luke alive in Episode 9:
https://www.inverse.com/article/42797-star-wars-episode-ix-rumor-luke-lives

And now what I'm going to let you do, since you are so worried I'm writing a "fanboy manifesto" instead of having worked with Lucasfilm at times in the past, is I'm going to let you use that Bing / Google contraption that I told you about to find the interview where Mark Hamill confirms that he and Trevorrow worked on Luke's character in Episode 9 together, and that Luke would have both been alive and VERY powerful. Mark was not happy when Trevorrow was fired, he was not happy at all with Rian Johnson (the two sort of hate each other), and Mark still holds a pretty big grudge that the original gang didn't get to be together in the first film. He's not a happy camper.

Now... all that said, I'm going to give you a little bit of insider information below... it is in the spoiler-ish category, so if you don't want to read it, you need to skip this now:

Episode 9 SPOILER ALERT (highlight to see):
The call came down from Alan Horn as a non-negotiable late last year that Luke Skywalker is to return in Episode 9 in a non-ghost form. The call also came down that Luke Skywalker was to be in a battle in the finished product in which he wins, and that he must appear triumphant and heroic by the end of the film. This was very contrary to Kennedy and Abram's script, as well as Lucasfilm Story Group's ethos. However, it was given as a concrete directive. This resulted in rewrites and reshoots beginning in January of this year to bring Mark and the gang back in to get Luke Skywalker much more prominently featured in the film.

Spoilers End

As for Galaxy's Edge, there's more spin today, but I've typed enough for the morning, so I'll grab those articles later for another update.
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I pray this is true about the spoiler part
 
TROR

TROR

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WDW Pro said:
Since you seem to struggle with that new thing called Bing and Google, I'll help you out with what publicly leaked from what I know:

Here's an article from when it leaked that Trevorrow was fired for wanting Luke alive in Episode 9:
https://www.inverse.com/article/42797-star-wars-episode-ix-rumor-luke-lives

And now what I'm going to let you do, since you are so worried I'm writing a "fanboy manifesto" instead of having worked with Lucasfilm at times in the past, is I'm going to let you use that Bing / Google contraption that I told you about to find the interview where Mark Hamill confirms that he and Trevorrow worked on Luke's character in Episode 9 together, and that Luke would have both been alive and VERY powerful. Mark was not happy when Trevorrow was fired, he was not happy at all with Rian Johnson (the two sort of hate each other), and Mark still holds a pretty big grudge that the original gang didn't get to be together in the first film. He's not a happy camper.

Now... all that said, I'm going to give you a little bit of insider information below... it is in the spoiler-ish category, so if you don't want to read it, you need to skip this now:

Episode 9 SPOILER ALERT (highlight to see):
The call came down from Alan Horn as a non-negotiable late last year that Luke Skywalker is to return in Episode 9 in a non-ghost form. The call also came down that Luke Skywalker was to be in a battle in the finished product in which he wins, and that he must appear triumphant and heroic by the end of the film. This was very contrary to Kennedy and Abram's script, as well as Lucasfilm Story Group's ethos. However, it was given as a concrete directive. This resulted in rewrites and reshoots beginning in January of this year to bring Mark and the gang back in to get Luke Skywalker much more prominently featured in the film.

Spoilers End

As for Galaxy's Edge, there's more spin today, but I've typed enough for the morning, so I'll grab those articles later for another update.
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Luke had a heroic ending in The Last Jedi. Why would anyone want that undone?
 
THE 1HAPPY HAUNT

THE 1HAPPY HAUNT

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TROR said:
Luke had a heroic ending in The Last Jedi. Why would anyone want that undone?
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no he didn't!!! how dare you. Luke went out like a gimp. He died from force exhaustion which was never established in the OT. sure he could sense leia and vader and vice versa from far way but he could not astro project. no one could before this film. It would have made more sense for Luke to actually go to red salt planet and actually die in battle. that would be more heroic. it serves the same purpose as his projection self only he actually was there. having him never leave the island was awful. you could still have the twin sun set shot but on crait as he sacrifices himself for real. They absolutley did not get Luke right in the film and Mark Hammil himself says so and no one besides lucas himself knows Luke better.
 
WDW Pro

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THE 1HAPPY HAUNT said:
I pray this is true about the spoiler part
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It's big reason that Episode 9 is not scheduled to finish post-production until sometime around October, and reshoots are still occurring this summer. Force Awakens was done six months ahead of its release. This movie will be finished right at the absolute deadline.
 
TROR

TROR

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THE 1HAPPY HAUNT said:
no he didn't!!! how dare you. Luke went out like a gimp. He died from force exhaustion which was never established in the OT. sure he could sense leia and vader and vice versa from far way but he could not astro project. no one could before this film.
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No one could move things with their mind before Empire Strikes Back. No one could use force lightning before Return of the Jedi.

It would have made more sense for Luke to actually go to red salt planet and actually die in battle. that would be more heroic. it serves the same purpose as his projection self only he actually was there. having him never leave the island was awful. you could still have the twin sun set shot but on crait as he sacrifices himself for real. They absolutley did not get Luke right in the film and Mark Hammil himself says so and no one besides lucas himself knows Luke better.
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Mark knows the over powered, lame, nerdy, joke character of Luke from the EU. Rian Johnson knows the real Luke Skywalker.
 
britain

britain

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The real Luke Skywalker threw away his lightsaber at the end of Return of the Jedi. He defeated the empire through pacifistic love. He never should have picked it up again, but foolishly did years later, thinking he could train new Jedi. Doing so led to the creation of Kylo Ren, and the death of billions throughout the galaxy. I’d be down and grumpy if it were me.

Sorry, I just had to jump in on the Luke debate 😄

However they end episode nine, it should not end with the good guys “kicking butt” since that’s essentially a dark side move.
 
mikejs78

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TROR said:
No one could move things with their mind before Empire Strikes Back. No one could use force lightning before Return of the Jedi.


Mark knows the over powered, lame, nerdy, joke character of Luke from the EU. Rian Johnson knows the real Luke Skywalker.
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If we want to reference the EU though, force projections were part of it.
 
Nirya

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It's big reason that Episode 9 is not scheduled to finish post-production until sometime around October, and reshoots are still occurring this summer. Force Awakens was done six months ahead of its release. This movie will be finished right at the absolute deadline.
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Maybe cite your sources on this one.
 
THE 1HAPPY HAUNT

THE 1HAPPY HAUNT

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TROR said:
No one could move things with their mind before Empire Strikes Back. No one could use force lightning before Return of the Jedi.


Mark knows the over powered, lame, nerdy, joke character of Luke from the EU. Rian Johnson knows the real Luke Skywalker.
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Well here is why you are wrong. flat out. while no one moved things in the original film with Jedi powers we got to see how the force was used to influence things and once could say Luke used the force to make his laser blast on the death star go in perfectly. but when we see Luke move the lightsaber on hoth in EMPIRE we were amazed because it showed us how much he has grown in his powers in the years since the original film and shows us an ability we did not know could be done with the force. luke was discovering what he could do wit the force and so were we as an audience because like Luke we didn't at that point know much about the force or all the powers you can do with it. Hence a call back later in the film where Vader just throws crap at Luke to show his knowledge and powers are far beyond his skills. but that is not true here in Last Jedi. off of the original films and prequel films we have seen EVERYTHING a Jedi can do. we saw them at their height of the peak and powers in the prequels so Luke being able to do a projection trick no one has ever done before, Leia being able to suddenly fly through space with no prior jedi training by luke that we are aware of also doing something no one else as done is STUPID!!!!!! IT'S DO DOO!!! And I am not even going to respond to your last sentence about Johnson knowing more a bout Luke than Hammil does. that is you trolling for fun.
 
TROR

TROR

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THE 1HAPPY HAUNT said:
Well here is why you are wrong. flat out. while no one moved things in the original film with Jedi powers we got to see how the force was used to influence things and once could say Luke used the force to make his laser blast on the death star go in perfectly. but when we see Luke move the lightsaber on hoth in EMPIRE we were amazed because it showed us how much he has grown in his powers in the years since the original film and shows us an ability we did not know could be done with the force. luke was discovering what he could do wit the force and so were we as an audience because like Luke we didn't at that point know much about the force or all the powers you can do with it. Hence a call back later in the film where Vader just throws crap at Luke to show his knowledge and powers are far beyond his skills. but that is not true here in Last Jedi. off of the original films and prequel films we have seen EVERYTHING a Jedi can do. we saw them at their height of the peak and powers in the prequels so Luke being able to do a projection trick no one has ever done before, Leia being able to suddenly fly through space with no prior jedi training by luke that we are aware of also doing something no one else as done is STUPID!!!!!! IT'S DO DOO!!! And I am not even going to respond to your last sentence about Johnson knowing more a bout Luke than Hammil does. that is you trolling for fun.
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Star Wars (1977) showed us everything that can be done with the force! How dare Empire Strikes Back make up new powers?

That’s how dumb you sound. If the first six movies had shown us everything that could be done, then why did no one complain about Kylo stopping a laser bolt? Because it was an awesome moment? So was Luke’s sacrifice. Get over it.
 

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