Daily Beast - "Workers Reveal Disney Is Covering Up Its COVID Cases"

[Chi84]

There is no "discussion" in this thread.

Just the usual crying over "fake news" and COVID denials.

That’s pretty extreme. The posts I’ve read state reasons for questioning the credibility of the article and none of them are “Covid denials.” Not everything reported as news is credible - there’s nothing wrong with reading critically and deciding how much weight to give to what’s being reported.

 

[Chomama]

I am not a Disney apologist and I don’t necessarily agree with Disney and their handling of positive cases - if this is true. If I assume that it is I am disappointed but not shocked. I hope Disney can come up with a universal policy for handling positive cases and exposure without negative consequences for any CM. I’m just not shocked that it isn’t clear cut and it is confusing and it’s not really a big story. My two cents

 

[Animaniac93-98]

there’s nothing wrong with reading critically and deciding how much weight to give to what’s being reported.

That's true, but we've already had one person admit to dismissing the article outright before reading it and this is a Disney fan forum, which means people are more likely to be biased towards corporate Disney and wanting to assume the parks are being run safely.

I posted Jenny's tweets because they seemed relevant to the topic. With tens and thousands of employees, it's only natural that they talk among themselves online and bring up concerns they may have.

People are also obsessing over the idea of a "cover up" instead of the broader implication of decisions (either by employees or their leaders) that may not be in the best interest in stopping the spread of COVID.

 

[_caleb]

If Disney wants to reopen DL (and continue to be successful in reopening WDW), they desperately need their front-line CMs (the ones who were fortunate enough to be called back from furlough) to be on board with their efforts. In my opinion, the key to this is clear policies, equal enforcement of those policies, and empowerment/expectation of the CMs to enforce the policies.

On another thread, a furloughed CM admitted to not enforcing mask rules because he didn’t think masks make a difference. If there are a lot of CMs with this attitude, there’s no way Disney can provide a safe and positive-PR environment to employees and guests.

If managers are not uniformly enforcing quarantine and contact tracing procedures, of course CMs are not going to feel safe.

This article—even if it only represents the thoughts of two CMs and a wife—can only be a good thing if it prompts someone at Disney to look into whatever is going on with the Horticulture and Irrigation team and address morale in the ranks.

 

[TrojanUSC]

The blind spot in the safety of park operations has been and continues to be indoor dining, which includes, most problematically, cast member break rooms.

 

[Giss Neric]

So you didn’t read the article, but you jumped into a thread about the article to share an opinion?

Yes cause this is a forum. When you click an article especially a click bait one and leads you to that website, they are getting clicks and get paid for their click baits. If you don't click, they don't get paid.

 

[Jimmy Thick]

All this stuff allegedly happened in July and August and its just now getting reported? In this day and age of instant information and such a hot topic as covid-19?

Me thinks people should take this with a grain of salt or the very least pixie dust.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Not only is this clearly gossip and speculation but I also find it appalling that they’d use the picture of a random CM with a headline stating that workers are saying this. I feel bad for the person in the picture because now he’s tagged to an article almost completely unrelated to him. I love how any outlet can release a “report” and people give it any credibility.

Appalling?

No one knows that person...or ever will. I don’t think it’s a “mantle” to heavy to bear

Typical of the media.

Anyone remember the Disney movie from the 80’a called “Mr. BoogedyMan”?

I don't trust clickbaitey e-"news", and I don't trust Disney after the whole TP2000 reveal among other things.
I can't say I trust either side on this until some solid form of evidence hits the ceiling fan.

I’d say that’s very fair

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

So you didn’t read the article, but you jumped into a thread about the article to share an opinion?

Is reading important?

Yes cause this is a forum. When you click an article especially a click bait one and leads you to that website, they are getting clicks and get paid for their click baits. If you don't click, they don't get paid.

...might have missed something...

Is this like “new math”?

 

[Tonybme]

The 15 minute guideline comes from the CDC...

Health Departments

COVID-19 guidelines, tools, and resources for health departments.

www.cdc.gov

And again here...

Health Departments

COVID-19 guidelines, tools, and resources for health departments.

www.cdc.gov

 

[_caleb]

All this stuff allegedly happened in July and August and its just now getting reported? In this day and age of instant information and such a hot topic as covid-19?

Me thinks people should take this with a grain of salt or the very least pixie dust.

What is hard to believe about CMs not feeling safe to go back to work? Especially in July and August? Now, whether or not CMs on the Horticulture team actually tested positive for the virus would be the next thing to investigate. But the article doesn’t assert that was true- only that CMs believed it to be true, talked about it amongst themselves, and wrote letters to the Mayor of Anaheim and the Governor of CA.

 

[Raineman]

Does anyone else miss the days where you could find a news source that was fact based, non-biased and without an underlying political/social agenda? The way these "news" outlets attempt to pass speculation off as fact, and twist elements to fit their agenda, is disgusting and irresponsible.

 

[John park hopper]

Does anyone else miss the days where you could find a news source that was fact based, non-biased and without an underlying political/social agenda? The way these "news" outlets attempt to pass speculation off as fact, and twist elements to fit their agenda, is disgusting and irresponsible.

If you find one let me know--- there is no factual news any more its all hearsay, anonymous sources that never come forward and agenda driven opinions ===what is worse is people take it as fact

 

[Raineman]

If you find one let me know--- there is no factual news any more its all hearsay, anonymous sources that never come forward and agenda driven opinions ===what is worse is people take it as fact

It's getting to the point where it's hard to distinguish major news networks from the propaganda broadcasts in countries like North Korea. CNN & Fox News are prime examples. Make $$ from your news broadcasts and push your agenda/narrative using fear, hate and mistrust-just wonderful.

 

[JoeCamel]

Does anyone else miss the days where you could find a news source that was fact based, non-biased and without an underlying political/social agenda? The way these "news" outlets attempt to pass speculation off as fact, and twist elements to fit their agenda, is disgusting and irresponsible.

Blame it on Rupert

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Blame it on Rupert

1000%

I’m shocked this isn’t common knowlege.

Rupert, Wilfred Brimley’s diabeeeetus commercials, and those reverse mortgage ones with magnum PI

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

The 15 minute guideline comes from the CDC...

Health Departments

COVID-19 guidelines, tools, and resources for health departments.

www.cdc.gov

And again here...

Health Departments

COVID-19 guidelines, tools, and resources for health departments.

www.cdc.gov

Their credibility has seen better days - frankly.

 

[_caleb]

Does anyone else miss the days where you could find a news source that was fact based, non-biased and without an underlying political/social agenda? The way these "news" outlets attempt to pass speculation off as fact, and twist elements to fit their agenda, is disgusting and irresponsible.

I‘m no apologist for The Daily Beast, but this particular article makes it clear that they are reporting 1) some Disney CMs are back to work, 2) DL is handling reopening differently than WDW, 3) some DL CMs are reported to have tested positive, 4) other CMs (and the spouse of a CM who spoke to the reporter) don’t feel safe going back to work, 5) the CMs claim that Disney is not being forthcoming with information about virus exposure and possibly calling COVID-positive CMs in to work.

These are opinions that are being reported, why would you say this isn’t news? Wouldn’t the public be interested to know that CMs are reporting these things? The journalist in this case practiced good journalism in reporting.

The headline (likely not written by the journalist) is sensationalized. They use “reveal” rather than something like “concerned...” or “tell authorities...” This does not change the reporting, but it does mean that anyone with an opinion about it should READ the ARTICLE.

 

[_caleb]

Yes cause this is a forum. When you click an article especially a click bait one and leads you to that website, they are getting clicks and get paid for their click baits. If you don't click, they don't get paid.

We are discussing the Daily Beast article. I understand that every click generates revenue for The Daily Beast, and you are free to click or not click the link. But if you’re not willing to read the article, you really can’t have much of value to contribute to a thread discussing the article, can you?

 

[_caleb]

Between the member who won’t read the article, the member who can’t understand the article, and the members who can’t seem to know how journalism works, I’m not sure it’s possible to have a beneficial conversation about the article.

An opinion formed about a source of news without having read the news source is, by definition, an uninformed opinion. Reading the source carefully and not twisting it to say something it’s not saying is also important to formulating an informed opinion. Understanding how journalism works—that anonymous sources are not anonymous to the journalists making the report, that reporters investigate to make sure that their sources are who they say they are, and that news outlets are almost always biased one way or another and should be treated as such—is really important to maintain an informed public.

Once you’re informed, by all means, have whatever opinion you like!