MrPromey
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Oh, did they trip?
I thought they were getting down on the ground to try crawling under it somehow.
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I thought they were getting down on the ground to try crawling under it somehow.
MrPromey
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Wow - the hatbox ghost got it's own place on that timeline for 2023.
That's really grasping for anything to fill up a slide, isn't it?
_caleb
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You think children who‘ve never ridden the train at MK are disappointed that Disney didn’t take the opportunity at D23 to announce when the train (that they’ve never ridden) will be rideable again?
_caleb
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I mean, I like the train. But you must really love the train.
lazyboy97o
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Walt Disney Imagineering has never had the authority to green light projects. That’s not their role and it never has been.
The size of Walt Disney Imagineering had always fluctuated based on projects and to varying degrees things have also been contracted out.
People have long moved around and Universal didn’t pick up a bunch of people due to Disney’s recent pandemic layoffs. Universal played the public much better by continuing Velocicoaster (which wasn’t really in a position to be paused).
They originally expanded the margins and chose a larger typeface and double spaced.
bhg469
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We go to pointe orlando all the time with friends to Capital Grill.. Aside from going to Taverna Opa it is fairly dead.. These places are going to be very popular!!This is already happening and Disney is going to lose some of that convention business with everything across the street from the convention center:
Immersive Dining and Entertainment Coming to Pointe Orlando
We are proud to work with Brixmor Property Group to bring a world-class immersive dining and entertainment experience to Pointe Orlando.pointeorlando.com
bcoachable
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To be clear- I love Themed Parks…
To not figure out a way to continue the “Show” (as Disney likes to lean into movie culture when describing the way they conduct park business) of the train - that also eats a few people up, and gives people something else to do other than wait in other lines…. Inexcusable leadership choices- again IMO.
uncle jimmy
Premium Member
Will D23 do a survey after this for feedback?
EPIC UNIVERSE IS A THREAT TO DISNEY
Just not at opening, but with what the expansion represents. Up until now, Universal has not been a full week draw for most people. Most families would split with Disney (so both “won”) however, now Universal is building its 3rd park and if you look back to when WDW built its third park that’s when surrounding businesses started to see loss of revenues as people started staying in the Disney bubble for their entire trip. Disney has never had a competitor that could legitimately provide entertainment as varied as them, that expansion plot will eventually contain 2 theme parks, another entertainment district and 3+ hotels. UO will in the coming decade grow to challenge Disney in amount of parks and attractions and become a place you legitimately need an entire week to see. It’s coming, and if Disney doesn’t start planning to blunt Universals gains it will happen sooner. Most American vacations last 9 days at the most, and very, very soon consumers will need to pick Disney or Universal. This idea that Disneys position in Orlando is unmatchable is no longer valid. Yes Comcast will lose some immersion with having 2 campuses, but at the end of the day, weither I’m on a 20 min bus ride from AK to MK through forests or weither I’m on a 20 min bus ride in a dedicated bus lane going through suburban sprawl doesn’t really matter.
Just not at opening, but with what the expansion represents. Up until now, Universal has not been a full week draw for most people. Most families would split with Disney (so both “won”) however, now Universal is building its 3rd park and if you look back to when WDW built its third park that’s when surrounding businesses started to see loss of revenues as people started staying in the Disney bubble for their entire trip. Disney has never had a competitor that could legitimately provide entertainment as varied as them, that expansion plot will eventually contain 2 theme parks, another entertainment district and 3+ hotels. UO will in the coming decade grow to challenge Disney in amount of parks and attractions and become a place you legitimately need an entire week to see. It’s coming, and if Disney doesn’t start planning to blunt Universals gains it will happen sooner. Most American vacations last 9 days at the most, and very, very soon consumers will need to pick Disney or Universal. This idea that Disneys position in Orlando is unmatchable is no longer valid. Yes Comcast will lose some immersion with having 2 campuses, but at the end of the day, weither I’m on a 20 min bus ride from AK to MK through forests or weither I’m on a 20 min bus ride in a dedicated bus lane going through suburban sprawl doesn’t really matter.
They did? Your source on that, please?
They did? Your source on that, please?
They do? Your source on that, please?
Here's how many paid vacation days the typical American worker gets
Almost one quarter don't receive any paid time off at all.
15-20 days (weekends not included) a year. Use more then 5 at a time and you can’t do much the rest of the year especially if those days are also used for sick days.
As for the others, most families visiting who go to Universal do Disney too on the same trip now. Note, I’m not saying a majority of Disney guests do Universal as part of their trip, I’m saying a majority of families who go to Universal also do Disney.
As for evidence from 1989 I couldn’t easily find news articles from 30 years ago, but I seem to remember that’s when all the 1 day or less tourist places not on I drive around Disney started going downhill.
Basil of Baker Street
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I have that pass also. After 2 or 3 days of that, I'm looking for something else to do.
michmousefan
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Whether Disney is truly worried about EU or not (I kinda now lean towards the "not"), that blue-sky content at the end felt really shoehorned into the preso as a "well, if we think Wall Street wants to see some kind of response to EU, let's just throw this spaghetti at the wall and see if anything sticks". I think they were just hedging their bets with some hastily-assembled concept art, despite Josh's oh-so-obvious "no, this is *serious* stuff!" proclamations.
Greetings from another Michigander, btw...
BrianLo
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People keep repeating this, but the singing is for the audience and largely enjoyed by it. What it doesn’t seem to translate for is people streaming from home. I get it, but the singing is sometimes the best part and the real reason to attend live.
Where else can one see the actual princess voice actresses come out and sing their major songs?
michmousefan
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I really think you are discounting the immersion of a contiguous property that is really its own "world." Universal will never be able to mimic the feeling of driving under the Walt Disney World arches that border the Disney property. That's the curse of having two separated plots of property.
Also, I haven't seen any evidence that gives me confidence that the bus ride from Universal back and forth will be anything but a standard experience. Will they be able to keep guests who are staying at their new high-end, in-park hotel at EU happy with a bus ride to IOA or Studios? Time will tell, I suppose, but that's a tough ask. Or do they expect those folks to split their time between two different luxury resorts during their vacation?
cheezbat
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This was forever ago now, but during that time, much of 192/Kissimmee which made big money off of Disney started waning. Of course, with Typhoon Lagoon opening, Water Mania took a hit. With Disney/MGM Studios opening, Disney became a week long trip. With Downtown Disney/Pleasure Island, hot spots on I-drive and Church Street downtown also began to see declines.
Disney built the bubble. Guests couldn’t resist. I know many of my friend’s vacations changed from a day or two at Disney and the beach or things off 192 to nothing but a Disney vacation in the 90’s.
bcoachable
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Slightly off topic but what happened to the World Showcase expansion (Brazil or South America) that had been on tap?? I mean I know what happened - but as close as that was to bring green lit- and it doesn’t even get mentioned… would have been a perfect place to cram Encanto IP into
UNCgolf
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Putting an Encanto ride in a Brazil pavilion wouldn't work.
Not that that would have prevented Disney from potentially doing it, but those countries don't even speak the same language.
DisneyDodo
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For better or worse, these days the WS pavilions essentially represent the greatest region that encompasses its nominal country and no other pavilion’s country. Norway effectively serves as the Scandinavian pavilion, Morocco as the Middle Eastern pavilion, etc. If they add Brazil, it would undoubtedly serve as the South American pavilion.