Rumor D23 Expo 2019 expected announcements

britain

britain

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Just based on past history, the ā€œbig modelā€ at each D23 is for a project that will be opening around when the following D23 happens two years later. And it is normally for a project that was announced around two years prior. Carsland, Shanghai, Pandora, Star Wars. This is the pattern.

So, I suspect the Big Model this year to be the new Future World (along with its new name, maybe?) Another possibility would be Marvel Land at DCA, but I wouldnā€™t be surprised if thatā€™s there at D23, but as a secondary smaller model (it is a smaller project than Epcotā€™s, after all).

Beyond that? Nada mas as far as models go. But we might get some announcements/concept art regarding things that will be finished in 3-4 years time. Those will most likely be things weā€™re already aware of because of these boards, but you never know about the dark horse that sneaks up from behind. <CoughPixarPierCough>
 
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jgrinstein

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I hope that they announce DHS's phase 3 expansion, replacement for Stitch, Magic Kingdom's nighttime parade, and Epcot. I still think that DHS needs improvement, the circulation of the park is and will be a complete mess. Some of the different themes, lands and rides/shows don't have a cohesive and logical location. Some of these are Frozen, Cars, Little Mermaid, Disney Junior, Pixar Place, Star Wars Launch Bay, and Star Tours, which are really there for capacity issues, but do not belong in their respective locations. I believe that Frozen may belong more in Epcot's Norway, than DHS's Hyperion Theater, for example. Epcot still may have the tendency of falling into the same direction, with Guardians of the Galaxy, but I hope not. At least it is a major ride, which will be a positive for Epcot, not a "temporary" show/dance party that DHS is known for. Having said this, I hope that they make positive announcements in D23.
 
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seascape

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jgrinstein said:
I hope that they announce DHS's phase 3 expansion, replacement for Stitch, Magic Kingdom's nighttime parade, and Epcot. I still think that DHS needs improvement, the circulation of the park is and will be a complete mess. Some of the different themes, lands and rides/shows don't have a cohesive and logical location. Some of these are Frozen, Cars, Little Mermaid, Disney Junior, Pixar Place, Star Wars Launch Bay, and Star Tours, which are really there for capacity issues, but do not belong in their respective locations. I believe that Frozen may belong more in Epcot's Norway, than DHS's Hyperion Theater, for example. Epcot still may have the tendency of falling into the same direction, with Guardians of the Galaxy, but I hope not. At least it is a major ride, which will be a positive for Epcot, not a "temporary" show/dance party that DHS is known for. Having said this, I hope that they make positive announcements in D23.
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I am hoping you are right and phase 3 for DHS is announced. However, I am hoping for even more as SWGE needs to be expanded. DHS needs to have capacity for over 20 million guests a year and MK needs capacity for 25 million. The days of worrying about Universal are over. WDW needs more capacity in each of their 4 parks and 2 water parks. Once they finish those expansions they can open their 5th gate in about 2025. WDW will draw 90 million before Universal draws 30. Water Parks don't count.
 
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Franklin47disneyguy

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MickeyMouse10 said:
Yep, the only way they'll think of a 5th gate is if Universal's 3rd one sounds really, really amazing. Disney usually only does things if they feel they have no choice.

Disney's last 2 parks were made because Universal opened 2 parks in Orlando around the same times. They've even opened lands because of their competition as well (New Fantasyland, Pandora, etc).
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Lets give AK, EC & DHS at least 15 RIDES. Then think about a fifth gate. Ak currently just 9, DHS just 6!
 
BlakeW39

BlakeW39

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seascape said:
I am hoping you are right and phase 3 for DHS is announced. However, I am hoping for even more as SWGE needs to be expanded. DHS needs to have capacity for over 20 million guests a year and MK needs capacity for 25 million. The days of worrying about Universal are over. WDW needs more capacity in each of their 4 parks and 2 water parks. Once they finish those expansions they can open their 5th gate in about 2025. WDW will draw 90 million before Universal draws 30. Water Parks don't count.
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LOL yeah idk about that one.

I think 20M people going to DHS any time soon is massively hyperbolic. DHS might take second spot at WDW but not by that wide a margin.

You are correct in adressing the issue of capacity, though. The fact of the matter is that all 4 parks need additional attractions and more space. MK even does, it should be brought at least on par with DL in terms of attractions given its popularity. Ofc what's there needs sprucing up but I feel as if we'll get that. With the 50th coming up, I anticipate (and hope) - based upon what insiders have said and trends which have gone noticed - that the MK will get some of this. Upgrade to BTMRR and possibly others. Massive TL rehaul, which is needed. New attractions (especially Es which MK honestly could use) I am not so sure about.

DHS could use much more work. It needs to become, simply put, a much better park lol. Right now it's a mess and should be more cohesive. If they want an IoA then they need to put in the work to make that so. I can see them announcing the fate of some old shows, but to the extent people want... new lands, attractions (B-E), I'm not so sure.

Epcot will likely be the focus with a new FW and some plussing of WS. Its fallen behind as I've said and will now be the least attended park (and for good reason). All Epcot stuff will almost surely be announced andor expanded upon.

DAK is looking iffy, but it seems as if all four parks to have some major plans and while DAK does seem least on the radar and I would not count on anything major, it is possible that a Dinoland redo or demo may be announced. I highly doubt anything else but I'll keep my fingers crossed for them moving the seas.
 
BlakeW39

BlakeW39

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Franklin47disneyguy said:
Lets give AK, EC & DHS at least 15 RIDES. Then think about a fifth gate. Ak currently just 9, DHS just 6!
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Yes. DAK needs another E and maybe a D in Africa (flume or wate coaster?), maybe another attraction for Pandora, and replace the two pre-A tickets over at Dinorama with one more E.

DHS needs a ton of everything it's almost hard to touch on. But it needs to at least double its line up with A-E.

Epcot has attractions (given WS needs more) but most of them are dated. And its lineup definitely has the fewest really great attractions. So it could use updated or rehauls more than anything.

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Yes. DAK needs another E and maybe a D in Africa (flume or wate coaster?), maybe another attraction for Pandora, and replace the two pre-A tickets over at Dinorama with one more E.

DHS needs a ton of everything it's almost hard to touch on. But it needs to at least double its line up with A-E.

Epcot has attractions (given WS needs more) but most of them are dated. And its lineup definitely has the fewest really great attractions. So it could use updated or rehauls more than anything.

MickeyMouse10 said:
Yep, the only way they'll think of a 5th gate is if Universal's 3rd one sounds really, really amazing. Disney usually only does things if they feel they have no choice.

Disney's last 2 parks were made because Universal opened 2 parks in Orlando around the same times. They've even opened lands because of their competition as well (New Fantasyland, Pandora, etc).
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WDW does not need a 5th until they can manage 4. Which they cannot do for another 5+ years. And it definitely has no place at this year's D23.
 
nickys

nickys

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Hereā€™s a wild card:

What about the link between AKL and AK? Martin has said there are plans, and we have several pointers elsewhere. Too early for an announcement @marni1971?

I know with the Skyliner they waited until the permits were filed and ā€œour guysā€ had figured it out before they officially announced them. But maybe theyā€™ll surprise us this time.
 
marni1971

marni1971

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nickys said:
Hereā€™s a wild card:

What about the link between AKL and AK? Martin has said there are plans, and we have several pointers elsewhere. Too early for an announcement @marni1971?

I know with the Skyliner they waited until the permits were filed and ā€œour guysā€ had figured it out before they officially announced them. But maybe theyā€™ll surprise us this time.
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Between resort and park? Nothing I know of.
MickeyMouse10 said:
I've seen Marni abbreviate something with the letters TLF a few times. What does that mean? The Laugh Floor?
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The Laugh Floor. Itā€™s more family friendly.
 
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doctornick

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nickys said:
The Space Restaurant was one of several cryptic clues that Martin gave us. So although it wasnā€™t widely discussed elsewhere, it wasnā€™t a surprise to those who were following on this site!
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Yeah, cryptic clues... that no one understood until the actual announcement (the Mickey ride was another). Maybe he'll do something similar this year as it gets closer. But I wouldn't say it wasn't a surprise.
 
nickys

nickys

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doctornick said:
Yeah, cryptic clues... that no one understood until the actual announcement (the Mickey ride was another). Maybe he'll do something similar this year as it gets closer. But I wouldn't say it wasn't a surprise.
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Ummm, no! The majority were solved. The Space Restaurant was one of the first (and I should know ;)). And I think a train ride with Mickey was also worked out. Maybe you werenā€™t following the clues thread, they were referenced from several different threads IIRC.
 
DisneyRoy

DisneyRoy

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BlakeW39 said:
Does anyone have a (reasonable, not armchair) wishlist? I'd be interested in hearing it.
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MK - more details on the 50th celebration (Tron, parade, etc.)
Epcot - more details on Space restaurant, more details on GotG coaster, timeline for Rat open, MAYBE UK ride & country expansion
AK - not a lot (chester & hester replacement?, Pandora expansion (doubtful))
DHS - RotR update, MMRR update

Just my ideas on what is realistic. I would expect something surprising no one here is aware of (except maybe Martin).
 
FigmentFan82

FigmentFan82

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999th Happy Haunt said:
The main reason Zootopia doesnā€™t belong in DAK, in my eyes, is because of the setting. Itā€™s a giant metropolitan city. It would be so out of place with how lush every other land in the park, and go against the idea that most buildings in the park are to stay below the tree line. Add on top of that the lack of a conservation message and characters that are more like people than animals, and you have a very poor fit for DAK.

Sorry to get off-topic again, I just had to get that out.
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Just to counterpoint a little, but in no way in a combative nature, but the rumors (which could be 100% false for all we know) suggest Rafiki's Planet Watch to be the site of a potential Zootopia area, so sightlines would not be an issue if you have a metropolis animal city that far removed from the rest of the park. But wo know how real or not real those rumors are.

(full disclosure, I really like Zootopia, but I'm not trying to ruffle feathers)
 
999th Happy Haunt

999th Happy Haunt

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FigmentFan82 said:
Just to counterpoint a little, but in no way in a combative nature, but the rumors (which could be 100% false for all we know) suggest Rafiki's Planet Watch to be the site of a potential Zootopia area, so sightlines would not be an issue if you have a metropolis animal city that far removed from the rest of the park. But wo know how real or not real those rumors are.

(full disclosure, I really like Zootopia, but I'm not trying to ruffle feathers)
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Only problem here is having a brand new popular land only being accessible by a small train would be an operational nightmare
 

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