Animaniac93-98
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Taco Bell? We're trying NOT to scare the kids away!
Or give them some other virus besides COVID.
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Covid Vaccine Updates and General Discussion About Vaccines
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Taco Bell? We're trying NOT to scare the kids away!
Or give them some other virus besides COVID.
Shouldigo12
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You joke, but there's a possibility that would actually sway my brother. Make it a Chick Fil A card and he'd be first in line.
ToTBellHop
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Hell, have the clinic AT a Chick Fil-A and more people will show up AND they’ll get their vaccines faster than any clinic yet! “Vaccine in your arm before you’re done ordering or FREE chicky nuggies!”
Funny you should mention that.
SC mayor calls in Chick-fil-A manager to help traffic back up at COVID-19 vaccine site
The story has received national attention since the video was tweeted out.
www.wyff4.com
If both Astra and Nova both come through, we'll have enough doses for 215% of the U.S. population, including children.
Everyone can get a booster next year targeting variants.
Not for Covid but for every year during flu season Publix Supermarkets in FL would give you a $10 Publix gift certificate if you got your Flu shot at the Publix pharmacy.
correcaminos
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I think CVS gives a $10 coupon.
Our biggest issue with vaccine hesitancy from all I read is less age, but more to do with racial and political leanings. Young people may be a bit apathetic and if asked in a poll from 3 months ago their response might be "no" because they convinced themselves not to expect it any time soon, but anecdotally seeing my state opening up to 16+ on the 29th, we're seeing big races for the groups wanting to get in. As mentioned by @Animaniac93-98 the media has not been our friend. Most enthusiastic and willing are not the same.
Time and time again the polls are showing Blacks needing to be made to feel safe. Latinos too. Both have histories of being used as guinea pigs. The white extreme right wingers are a different issue. Combating each takes different tactics. Some will refuse, but some can be reasoned with. Simply watching others get vaccinated helps. This is why I'm huge about promoting it. Also big into helping people find shots so they don't think it's impossible and helping talk out fears.
At the funeral home, one of the workers is a white male in his 30s. Based on some comments about masking and such, we could guess where he leaned politically. Not to make it political but many do. Oddly it was his mom asking him when he was going to get it (he was not) made him. He said his mom said he needed to get it and so he now had one shot lol. Some of these "nope" people are not as hard noped as some think too. This is completely different than those with legit fears though. The former is guiltable the latter is not.
ToTBellHop
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With the groups you mention, I think JnJ will go a long way. I’ve had great luck with a handful of “I don’t know” people by pointing out that the JnJ technology has been in use longer and that if they just get one shot, they will be free to do fun things as those demands appear (we saw this yesterday with the announced resumption of cruising) and they will be protected. 1 shot is an easier sell for skeptics or those who believe their immune systems are strong enough (that particular group does NOT want to be lectured on the science, I’ve noticed).
We just need more JnJ doses.
correcaminos
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Every person will have their hang ups so while this will work for some, it won't help all. Many don't care that J&J has older technology. Though reality is mRNAs have been around for decades. There is concern among many that J&J is not as good, which can be valid. The end story is many feel all were rushed so brand doesn't mean a thing. My personal inner circle will take whatever is offered, but there are pluses and minuses to both.
When dealing with racial issues, older vs newer types of vaccines means pretty much nothing at all. Having faces get the vaccine will matter more. I use my trial status as a walking advertisement. It's actually helped more than how old technology for creating vaccines is. It takes time to reach all. But a one stop idea that x will fix worries is not what will help. That's been my hard part, reasoning with the people on what they need. I just don't think J&J will be the biggest answer from what I've seen and I put myself out there a ton to strangers too being in the trial. For some yes, for others we have to dig deeper. For those who think it's a hoax it would be great, though reality is J&J could turn into two doses which will backfire.
Though some I do tough love with and say not taking it is a slap in the face to me and all I did. Sometimes guilt works too
ToTBellHop
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Oh I was just sharing personal anecdote. I’ve convinced five people to get JnJ and helped them sign up (and a couple coworkers needed help finding the 2-dose they wanted). Every concerned person has different concerns. But no one wants to feel stupid so they need to be met where they are.Every person will have their hang ups so while this will work for some, it won't help all. Many don't care that J&J has older technology. Though reality is mRNAs have been around for decades. There is concern among many that J&J is not as good, which can be valid. The end story is many feel all were rushed so brand doesn't mean a thing. My personal inner circle will take whatever is offered, but there are pluses and minuses to both.
When dealing with racial issues, older vs newer types of vaccines means pretty much nothing at all. Having faces get the vaccine will matter more. I use my trial status as a walking advertisement. It's actually helped more than how old technology for creating vaccines is. It takes time to reach all. But a one stop idea that x will fix worries is not what will help. That's been my hard part, reasoning with the people on what they need. I just don't think J&J will be the biggest answer from what I've seen and I put myself out there a ton to strangers too being in the trial. For some yes, for others we have to dig deeper. For those who think it's a hoax it would be great, though reality is J&J could turn into two doses which will backfire.
Though some I do tough love with and say not taking it is a slap in the face to me and all I did. Sometimes guilt works too
correcaminos
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Got it! Btw thanks for helping out like that! I do know it's tiresome and often thankless work!
Finding what the real hang ups are often the hardest part. Some even talk in circles making it impossible to figure out. I think the ones who just need to see that someone else was safe x many months later are my easiest. Love meeting those people who huff and puff about safety change the moment they realize they are talking to someone in a trial. Wish all were that easy.
The demand for vaccines here in Northern Virginia remains fierce. The combined leadership sent a letter to the governor this week advising that 400,000 people are "in line" for Group 1B shots, far outpacing vaccine supplies, and asking for relief.
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The 5 Northern Virginia health districts have high demand and have assembled the capacity, outreach and procedures to quickly and equitably administer MANY more vaccine doses.<br><br>Together we have written to <a href="https://twitter.com/GovernorVA?ref_src=twsrc^tfw">@GovernorVA</a> asking he give us the doses and authority to finish off COVID. <a href="https://t.co/pqDBn3VkCC">pic.twitter.com/pqDBn3VkCC</a></p>— Justin Wilson (@justindotnet) <a href="">March 19, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The 5 Northern Virginia health districts have high demand and have assembled the capacity, outreach and procedures to quickly and equitably administer MANY more vaccine doses.<br><br>Together we have written to <a href="https://twitter.com/GovernorVA?ref_src=twsrc^tfw">@GovernorVA</a> asking he give us the doses and authority to finish off COVID. <a href="https://t.co/pqDBn3VkCC">pic.twitter.com/pqDBn3VkCC</a></p>— Justin Wilson (@justindotnet) <a href="">March 19, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
I think this could be a real problem in FL particularly. I get wanting to vaccinate 65+ and high risk groups first but the Governor seems to go out of his way to say that that is the only priority group and once they are done hospitalizations and deaths should flatten out and that’s really all that matters. It’s dangerous to tell the public it’s only critical to get 65+ vaccinated. He is going to have some work to do convincing the young and healthy to go in and get the shot after telling them they didn’t need it. I hope the tone and narrative changes soon or the state is going to stall out and fall behind and that’s bad news for anyone who lives there obviously, but also for the rest of us who want to visit our favorite theme parks.
I am a FL resident, and have watched many of the Governor's press conferences. He did not - to my knowledge - say that younger people did not need to get vaccinated. Just that older residents needed it more, so should get it first. And advised those younger to be patient.
I think we are getting close to a time when doses will start being allocated by the states based on demand. If there are areas way behind due to higher demand they will need to start allocating extra doses to meet the demand if they want to hit the May 1 target. Eventually the Federal government will need to start allocating to states based on demand too. No point sending doses to Alaska to be put in storage if there’s no demand while people in Virginia still can’t get an appointment. We aren’t there yet anywhere, but as states open to the general public we will start to see some burn through all available demand much faster than others.
I’m more referencing his refusal to create a priority group for essential workers. Going from age and medical condition based straight to the general public. In many places other essential worker groups are being told they are high priority as well. There is going to be some work needed to convince some people, especially in urban areas to go get vaccinated.
correcaminos
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Some states are still doing this too. My neighboring state of Indiana has been equally as stubborn about this. My own state really didn't give to essentials before health issues outside of medical workers. My husband was an essential here and age opened before job did. Though I managed a shot before that even happened. We don't really have a unified direction outside of suggestions. People in Ohio were going to PA because they opened differently. It's a real issue having so many variances.
I think a bigger hurdle here is getting rural areas to accept it. So far I have sent friends a county or two over to get vaccinated because people in that region just are not scheduling. It's crazy how Columbus Public health or Franklin County (biggest, most densely populous in the state) can book up in minutes to hours but I can send people 3 and 4 days later to Fayette Co or Shelby co for easy to find doses. This does concern me as those regions sucked with mitigation.
Even within PA we have had different rollouts in Philadelphia vs the rest of the state. Philly has been hyper focused on getting more minority groups and lower income workers done faster than the rest of the state. I know it was frustrating for my parents who live there and are 74 but were not eligible as fast as the rest of the state. I don’t know if in the long run it helps get acceptance rates higher in the communities more deeply impacted by Covid but they can’t be blamed for not trying.
One thing that seems to have worked pretty well in PA is using the JnJ doses to target essential worker groups. The first batch went to teachers pretty successfully and the Governor has said they plan to do something similar for firefighters and first responders, grocery store workers and factory workers next. The check out person at our local supermarket said she has already been told by the union that they are securing the doses and will have someone come in to give them the shot a of JnJ at the store so one and done and no need to fight for an appointment. It may delay the opening of vaccine appointments to the general public but when it does open there will be less people in the general public group so that much easier to get an appointment.
That could be an issue of some who do not need to get vaccinated. Some in FL have family in NJ/NY. Just imagine if the non vaccinated try to attend Yankee/Mets games in NY. Requirements are proof of vaccination or negative covid test. Newark Airport which I connected at was advertising covid test w/results in 15 min - $200 per person.
correcaminos
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I'm not sure there is an exact right way to do this either. I had no idea Philly was so different than western PA (which was far more open than we were for a while, then we leap frogged)
For me I am ever so grateful for all the essential workers. I know some were vaccinated in the health departments but there were so many others I was grateful and remain grateful for. I do not think of them as unworthy of shots the way I've seen some people be. I'm glad that your workers will be vaccinated soon! I've thought the J&J would be great for those as it could easily be done as an onsite type clinic for workers.