Yes, and in particular, it makes me happy that we all started with those over 65 and have strong uptake in that group (about 2/3 have received at least 1 dose and many states are still filling a large percentage of their appointments with those over 65).
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Do you mean all the more reason to vaccinate if you are over 65 and have recovered from COVID? If reinfection is rare among those younger than 65 who have recovered, they may not necessarily need to be vaccinated since it still appears they have lasting immunity.
No just blanket statement. All the more reason to vaccinate. Sorry I am not going to cherry pick and promote anything remotely anti-vax here. Not who I am after doing the trial. It is absolutely necessary to vaccinate as many as possible. This was just another "get your vaccine" reason to add to the long list.
Yep, good we started with them first. Last I looked our highest at risk ages are majority vaccinated but don't recall exact numbers.
Exactly. And while there are known unknowns, in general, findings such as these provide scientific footing for moving society forward even if younger people aren’t taking the vaccine in high numbers. It is worth noting, before the vaccines arrived, there was about a 3-week lag between case counts moving and deaths moving. Cases stopped falling at such a high rate 4 weeks ago. Deaths continue to fall dramatically. Hospitalizations also continue to fall and are currently at similar levels to early October and soon could fall to their lowest since the pandemic started. Could this be due to a high level of vaccination focused on the elderly and high-risk groups?
Except that it may not be absolutely necessary to vaccinate those who have recovered if the purpose of the vaccine is to gain immunity. Natural immunity clearly exists at this point and there in no evidence to show that a vaccine will provide any greater or longer lasting immunity. That's not anti-vax. That is just taking a logical and unbiased look at the data so far.
Except that immunity even in young people does not last forever they find. The numbers out of Brasil alarm me enough to never rely on natural immunity. I'm not sure why anyone would promote not vaccinating younger people eventually. That's how you reach herd immunity and getting rid of diseases.
There’s no reason not to get vaccinated if you were infected. You have no way of knowing if you are immune or not so why not get the vaccine. What’s the down side?
Of course—we don’t know exactly who had the virus. However, we must function in reality where we know younger people are less likely to take the vaccine. Should we still try to get every willing person on board? Absolutely. My takeaway is more that, even if many young people simple refuse, this is unlikely to have too much impact as hospitalizations and deaths will be low once at-risk groups are protected.
Thanks for the response. And before this falls off the cliff like most of the covid discussions do these days, I appreciate you point of view and I am not trying to discredit it at all. The article you posted is actually about 6 months old. It cites only 2 cases of reinfection and it still appears even now that reinfection is rare. Vaccine distribution is too new at this point to know if it will provide a longer lasting immunity or not. Herd immunity consists of both natural and vaccine immunity as it always has. To take the blanket approach that everyone must receive a vaccine to have immunity is simply not true. While complications from the vaccine may be unusual, they certainly do occur. Someone who has survived the infection certainly has the right to take that into consideration before being told they must take a vaccine that is only approved for emergency use.
All the polls I have read say that 24+ are equally as likely to take the vaccine. College age might be lower but colleges couod require things for admission to make up for it. I know a summer program I did at a university required up to date vaccines.
Yep!
You have more faith in people than I do after a year of the pandemic. I wish I believed we’d get to eradication.
That's the view I took. The downside was a sore arm.
The way I look at it is anyone who got Covid either had it really bad and never wants to go through that again so even a remote chance of reinfection is enough motivation to get the jab or they had it relatively easy and don’t want to roll the dice on a second infection. I’m not sure of the science behind it, but a glancing blow from the virus could mean less immunity if your immune system never fully ramped up. With the vaccine you know you are getting the full dose.
Survey after survey suggests those under 50 are far more likely to refuse the vaccine than those over 50.
I have extremely little faith in humanity. I have a ton in the vaccines!
Checked today and under 50 and over 50 were equal. Sub 24 was the divider.
In surveys now? That would be an improvement. Maybe younger people see their parents and grandparents survived the shot and want it now? Let’s hope.
