You don't need to give blood to get an antibody test. Seriously that would be the dumbest reason. But this had me curious, my last readthrough was a over a month ago so I dug out my first copy. No mention of blood donation in mine. I'll look through later copies later on. The big focus I was while I was in there was about pregnancy. Had to do multiple pregnancy tests and give information on what birth control (required) I use.
I will add in a legit medical exemption. Pregnancy would be one I imagine because of how strict they were about any woman of childbearing age getting pregnant during the trial. They legitimately do not know what this would do to an unborn child. I have a friend whose child cannot get any vaccines and cannot be around anyone with live vaccines even that shed due to what their immune system does. The end result is they never make immunity to the vaccines they get per testing. So we need to make legitimate medical exemptions.
Right now I don’t think these vaccines will even be approved for pregnant women or even kids under 12. They still to potentially run trials for those groups. This first round of emergency approvals will likely not include that.
No, but remember that the flu virus mutates frequently, which is the reason there is an annual vaccine. You don't actually get the same strain of flu every year.
To be fair, that CDC article is full of "may's" and "experts do not know" statements. When you look at other viral diseases, it is only the latent diseases that your body never completely eliminates, such as chickenpox/shingles, and the ones where you have lost immunity (the only one I can think of is tetanus, and that is actually a toxin, not a virus) that have a benefit from vaccination after you have had the disease. More evidence is needed for Covid. The hard part is that evidence takes time, and the disease has only been around for a year.Per the CDC website: someone who has had covid-19 can still benefit from the vaccination.Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19)
CDC provides credible COVID-19 health information to the U.S.www.cdc.gov
My opinion (no supporting evidence, just an opinion) is that mandatory vaccinations will not be required. The vast majority of people get vaccinated and are not part of the anti-vaxxer crowd. Right now, while the benefit side of the vaccine equation is know the risk side is not. Until it is, a rational person will hesitate to take it. It does not help that this is the first mRNA vaccine, so nobody can even compare it to other vaccines. If it in fact does not cause serious adverse reactions then I doubt that people will object.
I don’t disagree with most of this. I have been saying from the start that WDW won’t recover until there’s a vaccine. There are people who feel that if they removed all the restrictions the crowds would return, but that doesn’t seem to be the case, especially for out of state travelers. People aren’t traveling anywhere too far in general. Many people have flexed to more local vacation spots. Without a working vaccine it may be several years before WDW would be likely to return to anything close to normal. I think for many people learning to live with the virus would be a return to things like school and possibly figuring out alternative ways to visit friends and family but would still mean staying away from large crowds like a MLB game or WDW. I also think travel would be more limited.
Yes, that’s for sure part of it. During a pandemic people don’t know what they are going to be doing far in advance. Most people I know that did anything for a vacation this summer stayed local. I live in PA so cabins in the pocono mountains or finger lakes in upstate NY were very popular. Many people who normally go to FL or the Carolinas or the Caribbean for a beach vacation drove the to Jersey Shore. I canceled my WDW trip last summer and we ended up just going to the shore for a weekend in Sept after the busy season ended. We booked a room a few nights before we went and drove down. I wasn’t interested in booking in advance not knowing where cases and Covid restrictions would be at the time.
I can understand people doing things local amidst a pandemic.
I think Canada and UK are 1 and 2 for WDW and should be getting the vaccine in the same timeframe as the US. Brazil and S America may take a little longer but it won‘t be years delayed. It may take a little longer to bring back international travel, but I don’t see it being a lasting impact.
I don't think the distribution plans are that detailed yet. If there's rationing, that would be something for those controlling the supply to determine.
On the subject of how long immunity might last, it looks like according to this study it may be longer than some people thought, perhaps even years or decades. This is based on studying people infected 8 months ago and drawing some conclusions on rate of loss of immunity. The results also line up with other studies that show that people infected with SARS (another coronavirus) still have immune cells 17 years later. It’s not a peer reviewed and published studied, but still a good sign for the vaccines and/or people infected naturally. If it turns out true maybe the virus largely disappears (similar to SARS) if enough of the world gets vaccinated.
Immunity to the Coronavirus May Last Years, New Data Hint
How long might immunity to the coronavirus last? Years, maybe even decades, according to a new study -- the most hopeful answer yet to a question that has shadowed plans for widespread vaccination.Eight months after infection, most people who have recovered still have enough immune cells to fend...www.yahoo.com
My gut feeling is it will all depend on how you provide proof you qualify. For example in the very first phase I assume they will setup vaccination clinics at or near hospitals and also go directly to nursing homes. For healthcare and first responders I am assuming you will get some form of documentation from your employer you will have to show to get the shot. Once they move into the next phase if for example that includes people over 65 and also people in the high risk group I am assuming that you will show ID to prove age and if you have medical conditions you will need a doctor’s note or prescription to qualify. In those cases I don’t know if it would be state specific. If you show ID at a CVS in FL that you are 65+ but you have a NY driver’s license would they reject you? My gut says no, but they could. Maybe they just require proof of residence in FL too, like a utility bill showing your name and a FL address.
Thank you. You hit a good topic. Many snowbirds reside in the South for the winter but their ID says they are from up North.
Yes and there are other parts of the country with similar dynamics. What I envision is a less “organized“ system than something like voting where they have a list of eligible people and you have to be on it to get a vaccine. I see it as more being rules based with age being a big factor. Age is usually proven with a driver’s license and that’s good enough. For medical conditions it would have to be a doctor’s note. Where it gets tricky is how to do phase 2 and 3 from the model below:
