That's what Bill Gates wants you to believe...
They probably just call their manager to deal with the situation.
So I have friends at Disney right now. People are constantly taking masks off for pics and such. You think getting a manager for every non mask wearing person is feasible? If it is anything like our zoo with same requirements it will just be ignored after a while outdoors.
Teachers are eligible now (or will be very soon). There's no legit reason to hold up returning to school for kids to be vaccinated. Many parents won't even consent for their kids to receive vaccines.Quick update on the Pediatric trials. According to a Pfizer spokesperson they expect to have data from the 12-15 year old trial in the coming weeks and they expect to have data from the newly launched trial on kids under 12 in the second half of 2021. The new trial began phase 1/2 with the first of 144 kids already receiving various doses. Once the proper dosage is determined they will launch the larger phase 3 trial with 4,500 participants. 2nd half of 2021 could mean as soon as July or it could mean as late as December but will most likely be somewhere in between. I’m holding out hope that they finish 5-11 year olds by the end of Summer so all school aged kids can get the vaccine around the start of the school year or a little after. That could really go a long way towards a full return to normal school ASAP. As is right now my kid’s district is going forward with plans to still have an all virtual option and is keeping the systems in place to flex back to virtual if necessary. I’m all for planning ahead, but it’s depressing to think of another messed up school year.
Pfizer, BioNTech launch COVID-19 vaccine trial in kids under 12
Pfizer Inc and German partner BioNTech SE began testing their COVID-19 vaccine in children under 12, with hopes of expanding vaccination to that age range by early 2022, the U.S. drugmaker said on Thursday. The first volunteers in the early-stage trial were given their first injections on...news.yahoo.com
Quick update on the Pediatric trials. According to a Pfizer spokesperson they expect to have data from the 12-15 year old trial in the coming weeks and they expect to have data from the newly launched trial on kids under 12 in the second half of 2021. The new trial began phase 1/2 with the first of 144 kids already receiving various doses. Once the proper dosage is determined they will launch the larger phase 3 trial with 4,500 participants. 2nd half of 2021 could mean as soon as July or it could mean as late as December but will most likely be somewhere in between. I’m holding out hope that they finish 5-11 year olds by the end of Summer so all school aged kids can get the vaccine around the start of the school year or a little after. That could really go a long way towards a full return to normal school ASAP. As is right now my kid’s district is going forward with plans to still have an all virtual option and is keeping the systems in place to flex back to virtual if necessary. I’m all for planning ahead, but it’s depressing to think of another messed up school year.
Pfizer, BioNTech launch COVID-19 vaccine trial in kids under 12
Pfizer Inc and German partner BioNTech SE began testing their COVID-19 vaccine in children under 12, with hopes of expanding vaccination to that age range by early 2022, the U.S. drugmaker said on Thursday. The first volunteers in the early-stage trial were given their first injections on...
That schedule lines up with what I expected. Realistically, given that it’s a two-dose, I wouldn’t expect full vaccination of kids much before Thanksgiving (optimistically).
I think that plan works really well in schools too where there’s an expectation that people need to follow rules. Once the vaccines are approved for all school aged kids, kids fully vaccinated don’t need to wear a mask, kids without the vaccine do and then they keep everything open without restrictions. There would probably also need to be a separate table or tables setup for the unvaccinated kids to eat lunch with spaces still distanced. At the middle and high school level my guess is most kids get vaccinated to avoid the stigma. Younger kids have less control so that puts the call more in the parent’s hands.
There‘s a big difference between open and open without restrictions. Lots of schools are open right now but there’s a lot missing. Kids don’t have a lot of the fun stuff and social interaction that‘s pretty valuable for development. I’d love for the next school year to be mostly back to normal. If cases are way down maybe it can be, but if not and if kids can’t get vaccinated yet then it’s masks and distancing and limited social interaction for another school year. That would be disappointing.
Except kids can get it and spread. We are in school though full time. Modified schedules though and masks as well as distancing.
Related note for all the STUNNING folks that are getting/have gotten their vaccinations? Please, HANG ON to your COVID vaccination card like a DRIVERS LICENSE or PASSPORT! If done at a Pharmacy, and you also have prescription receipts with your data on them? PLEASE keep them. Don't publish them. DO back them up digitally?
Why: At least one state (HI), is seriously looking into that which MUST show up: VACCINE PASSPORTS. Early in the game, HI is already concerned that there is insufficient documentation that they can work with to establish real proof of vaccination.
Sooner or later, US businesses WILL start to demand proof of vaccination. Right now, your COVID vaccination card is all you have. Keep the original safe, make digital PDF or JPG copies, and carry these on your smart phone. Yes, they can be faked... but it's all we have right now, until business pressure forces the US to come up with a Nationally, or Internationally, recognized solution.
But once again, if the teachers are vaccinated, then they can protect themselves.
I don’t know much about it, but I’ve read that the FDA regulations say EUA status is conditioned on the drug being voluntary. Voluntary can mean different things, though, and I don’t know which organizations it would apply to. I found this article.
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You blew right past my point.
Rutgers is already requiring itI don’t know much about it, but I’ve read that the FDA regulations say EUA status is conditioned on the drug being voluntary. Voluntary can mean different things, though, and I don’t know which organizations it would apply to. I found this article.
Federal law prohibits employers and others from requiring vaccination with a Covid-19 vaccine distributed under an EUA
As decision-makers at organizations decide on their Covid-19 vaccination policy, they should be careful to not let this passion lead the organization to run afoul of the law.
If at DHS, that could be a job for the Star Wars Storm troopers with firearms ready to enforce the mask policy
Though they'd likely miss their targets when going after peopleIf at DHS, that could be a job for the Star Wars Storm troopers with firearms ready to enforce the mask policy
My point is that kids don't have the serious complications in great numbers like adults. If adults protect themselves through vaccination, then the most at risk will be covered.
I wonder if there would be a difference with college because it’s not required education. I honestly haven’t done much research into EUA, but if the FDA is talking about full approval soon it won’t matter.
The Equal Employment Opportunity Commission has said they think it would be acceptable to exclude employees who are not vaccinated when one is “available” and describes Emergency Use Authorization as “available.” Phrasing like “will likely be at odds with federal law if it requires its employees, students or other members to get a Covid-19 vaccine that is being distributed under emergency use authorization” suggest that despite so many headlines there is not a specific prohibition on the practice and it would likely fall to the courts to interpret.I don’t know much about it, but I’ve read that the FDA regulations say EUA status is conditioned on the drug being voluntary. Voluntary can mean different things, though, and I don’t know which organizations it would apply to. I found this article.
Federal law prohibits employers and others from requiring vaccination with a Covid-19 vaccine distributed under an EUA
As decision-makers at organizations decide on their Covid-19 vaccination policy, they should be careful to not let this passion lead the organization to run afoul of the law.
Kids don’t have as high a risk of serious illness or death as adults but when kids do get sick it’s still pretty disruptive to school. Kids testing positive and then other kids in that class have to either be tested or quarantine or both. It’s very disruptive to the classroom. If cases of Covid are nearly gone in the community then maybe it’s not an issue, but if Covid is still spreading then the districts will need to still keep restrictions in place. So that means masks, distancing and limited social interactions for the next school year. what I don’t see happening is school districts just going back to school as normal and ignoring Covid infections among students because they are lower risk. That’s unlikely to happen most places.
