Covid Vaccine Updates and General Discussion About Vaccines

Will you take a Covid vaccine once one is approved and deemed safe and effective by the FDA?

  • Yes, stick me please

  • No, I will wait

  • No, I will never take one


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GoofGoof

Premium Member
Original Poster
CDC approval is in. The first doses will be arriving in the US for use on Monday. 3 million initial doses will be sent out to arrive Mon, Tue or Wed. Very exciting stuff. I know it was basically assumed it would be approved, but it’s still great to hear it officially. If all goes as planned the Moderna one is a week behind.

 

ToTBellHop

Well-Known Member
Here’s your ingredient list. Nothing too surprising but avoid it if you’re allergic to any component. The salts and sugar shouldn’t impact anyone (your body already has all of them), so it’s the fats. Most are already found in humans except for polyethylene glycol (PEG), which some are allergic to. It’s commonly found in cosmetics, pharmaceuticals (e.g. laxatives), and some foods. It’s in a rather low dose here, however.

Active Ingredient
30 mcg of a nucleosidemodified messenger RNA (modRNA) encoding the viral spike (S) glycoprotein of SARS-CoV-2.

Fats
lipids (0.43 mg (4-hydroxybutyl)azanediyl)bis(hexane-6,1-diyl)bis(2-hexyldecanoate), 0.05 mg 2[(polyethylene glycol)-2000]-N,N-ditetradecylacetamide, 0.09 mg 1,2-distearoyl-sn-glycero-3- phosphocholine, and 0.2 mg cholesterol)

Salts
0.01 mg potassium chloride
0.01 mg monobasic potassium phosphate
0.36 mg sodium chloride
0.07 mg dibasic sodium phosphate dihydrate

Sugar
6 mg sucrose
 

GoofGoof

Premium Member
Original Poster
My hospital should hopefully be getting the vaccines sometime this week. I’m tentatively hoping to get mine by Friday. My mom, who works at a hospital in another state, is already signed up to get hers first thing Wednesday morning
Good stuff. Let us know how it goes after you get it :)
 

GoofGoof

Premium Member
Original Poster
Just some quick math on timing of doses available to the public. According to the head of Warp Speed between Pfizer and Moderna we will have 40 million doses of vaccine by the end of December with 50 to 80 million doses a month in Jan and Feb. With 40 million in Dec and 160 million in Jan/Feb that‘s the 200 million upfront doses purchased (enough to vaccinate 100M people). If the timeline slips a little some of those doses could still be arriving in March, but the point is 100 million vaccinated by the end of March. That’s 30% of the population :). The US already has 100 million additional doses coming from Moderna in Q2 and is actively negotiating with Pfizer on exercising the option for 100 million more doses. If they secure that it’s another 100 million people in Q2 or up to 60% of the population by the end of June.

If either AstraZeneca or JnJ gets approved in January that’s another 100 million people vaccinated by June as well and gets us to 300 million available doses or over 90% of the population which means likely extra doses that we don’t need. The other wildcard is children. So far nobody has started a trial for kids under 12. It could take months to approve the vaccine for kids. With only 250 million adults in the US the 400 million doses from Pfizer and Moderna alone may be enough since that would cover 60 to 80% of adults depending on if we get the extra 100 million doses from Pfizer.


 

Heppenheimer

Well-Known Member
Here’s your ingredient list. Nothing too surprising but avoid it if you’re allergic to any component. The salts and sugar shouldn’t impact anyone (your body already has all of them), so it’s the fats. Most are already found in humans except for polyethylene glycol (PEG), which some are allergic to. It’s commonly found in cosmetics, pharmaceuticals (e.g. laxatives), and some foods. It’s in a rather low dose here, however.

Active Ingredient
30 mcg of a nucleosidemodified messenger RNA (modRNA) encoding the viral spike (S) glycoprotein of SARS-CoV-2.

Fats
lipids (0.43 mg (4-hydroxybutyl)azanediyl)bis(hexane-6,1-diyl)bis(2-hexyldecanoate), 0.05 mg 2[(polyethylene glycol)-2000]-N,N-ditetradecylacetamide, 0.09 mg 1,2-distearoyl-sn-glycero-3- phosphocholine, and 0.2 mg cholesterol)

Salts
0.01 mg potassium chloride
0.01 mg monobasic potassium phosphate
0.36 mg sodium chloride
0.07 mg dibasic sodium phosphate dihydrate

Sugar
6 mg sucrose
I wonder why the sucrose? A cheap filler for osmotic balance, perhaps?
 

GoofGoof

Premium Member
Original Poster
Exactly. And it’s harmless, so no big deal. Sometimes, simple is best. It apparently was sucrose or microchip.

Sorry. I think I’m in a safe space here...
I’d take either at this point ;)

Would it be inappropriate for me to ask for them add a little extra sucrose? 6mg isn’t getting it done for me. Maybe I should just leave well enough alone and grab a Hershey bar on my way out ;)
 

JoeCamel

Well-Known Member
Here’s your ingredient list. Nothing too surprising but avoid it if you’re allergic to any component. The salts and sugar shouldn’t impact anyone (your body already has all of them), so it’s the fats. Most are already found in humans except for polyethylene glycol (PEG), which some are allergic to. It’s commonly found in cosmetics, pharmaceuticals (e.g. laxatives), and some foods. It’s in a rather low dose here, however.

Active Ingredient
30 mcg of a nucleosidemodified messenger RNA (modRNA) encoding the viral spike (S) glycoprotein of SARS-CoV-2.

Fats
lipids (0.43 mg (4-hydroxybutyl)azanediyl)bis(hexane-6,1-diyl)bis(2-hexyldecanoate), 0.05 mg 2[(polyethylene glycol)-2000]-N,N-ditetradecylacetamide, 0.09 mg 1,2-distearoyl-sn-glycero-3- phosphocholine, and 0.2 mg cholesterol)

Salts
0.01 mg potassium chloride
0.01 mg monobasic potassium phosphate
0.36 mg sodium chloride
0.07 mg dibasic sodium phosphate dihydrate

Sugar
6 mg sucrose
Interesting - if they want to image your colon they have you drink propylene glycol to clean you out. It sucks all the water out of your body into your digestive tract and predictable results ensue. I don't think I have ever heard of an allergy to it.

 

GoofGoof

Premium Member
Original Poster
First American gets the Pfizer vaccine this morning. A critical care nurse in NYC became the first to receive the vaccine under emergency use authorization (thousands received it already in the trial). Somewhere in the U.K. the other William Shakespeare is shaking his head saying “old news”, but we‘re officially in the game now too over here on the other side of the pond :). Moderna’s vaccine is up for review this week too. :)

 

GoofGoof

Premium Member
Original Poster
New poll out shows 84% of Americans will eventually be willing to get the Covid vaccine. Only 15% say they will never get it. 40% said they would get it right away while 44% said they would wait a bit. I think this seems in line with expectations and a large number of people will have to wait a bit anyway. A certain percent are in the anti-vaxx crowd and just won’t do it ever, but they are a relatively small percentage and don’t present a problem with achieving herd immunity.

 

correcaminos

Well-Known Member
New poll out shows 84% of Americans will eventually be willing to get the Covid vaccine. Only 15% say they will never get it. 40% said they would get it right away while 44% said they would wait a bit. I think this seems in line with expectations and a large number of people will have to wait a bit anyway. A certain percent are in the anti-vaxx crowd and just won’t do it ever, but they are a relatively small percentage and don’t present a problem with achieving herd immunity.

This is good enough news for me. As you said people will have to wait anyway so in the end it won't matter. I think we have to get the trust of many (most at risk) who don't trust medicine for other reasons thanks to historically horrific things that have happened to their collective peoples more than we have to worry about the anti-vaxxers. Those are truly the ones I worry for next (and I get the fears - medicine isn't great with many marginalized peoples including my own family)
 

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