I've heard if you have a strong immune system the virus will affect you more in terms of side effects as opposed to some with a weak immune system. Approx 9 hrs after my second Moderna shot I encountered side effects for approx 23 hours and I just stayed in bed.
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Covid Vaccine Updates and General Discussion About Vaccines
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correcaminos
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If worse than average I'd say possibly. If average no it doesn't rake that long.
Not sure that's true either. I'm not one to be sick much. Never taken an oral antibiotic and my guys can get strep even and not pass it on. About 2.5 years ago a coronavirus hit my kid's class and school hard. I thought it was strep at first and was loving on him as usual when indeed it was not strep. My husband caught it. I did not. I had sore arm 2 days (like tetanus shots) and that was it. 12+ who are getting it in Isreal (and kids seem to have better immune response as a whole) are having little to no side effects.
I think this is being said to make some who has a stronger reaction feel better.
Undocumented doesn't mean homeless.
Yeah a sore arm can happen almost within minutes.
And of course if you’re the poor soul who is the 1 in 10 million or so genuinely with an anaphylactic allergy to the vaccine, that springs up instantly.
SyracuseDisneyFan
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I hope I'm not jinxing this, but I just seem to have a little bit of a sore arm.
correcaminos
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I like your attitude!
That's all I ever had. Those with stronger reactions usually show by the end of the first day so I have seen (excluding anaphylaxis)
danlb_2000
Premium Member
Things are not looking good for AstraZeneca, Germany has suspended the use of the vaccine for people under 60 and Canada has suspended use for people under 55 due to continued blood clot concerns.
Disney Analyst
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Important to note there have been zero cases of blood clotting in Canada, they are only doing so as a precaution.
BC has stopped use for under 55, but just today announced anyone aged 55-65 in the Lower Mainland can call a pharmacy tomorrow and book the AstraZeneca vaccine.
danlb_2000
Premium Member
Yes, but there is mention of potentially more data out of Europe showing that the instances of clotting may be more common then originally thought. At this point, I don't know if it maters if it is safe or not, the damage has been done.
Perception is everything and at this point AZ needs a really good PR firm!
Chef Mickey
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A vaccine taken once that kills you isn't great. Remember, these vaccines could be taken by billions, which makes ANY problem an issue. If a drug for hypertension causes stroke in 1/100,000 people, its effect is only on the people taking said medication. Vaccines are going to be used on a massive scale. Now, although I believe minor, there are genuine concerns about the AZ vaccine and blood clots. Sure, they are perhaps 1 in 100,000 (as I read today) but if 100,000,000 people take the AZ vaccine, that would be 1,000 dead. And this isn't some political thing. It's concerning enough that Europe and Canada have paused its use for some.
Again, these things happen when you have any drug, injection, product, etc and will be slightly MORE concerning when it is a rush because of a global health crisis that was exacerbated by a media with ulterior motives. And note, I'm not saying it was a hoax, a fake disease, a conspiracy or anything crackpot idea. I'm saying the media did NOTHING but hurt the cause by mostly fear mongering. They are still doing it despite a huge positive trend, multiple effective vaccines, and a 99%+ survival rate.
Remember, I work in pharmaceuticals. I know the industry very well and even non-public information. I am also long several pharmacy stocks including some vaccine makers. I respect and encourage all the work they do, support these companies 100%, and even condone the insane profits they make because they take tremendous risks developing these drugs and need to be rewarded. I am however extremely aware of the imperfect nature of bringing and product to market, particularly one taken by billions. It is not easy and is NOT a risk-free option. We have demonstrated that children are very close to risk-free to dying from Covid, because that's what the numbers say. And yes, this recognizes SOME kids still have died of Covid, like many other things in small numbers.
Similarly, planes are the safest form of travel, but we do have planes crash. Not a strawman. This is how the world works.
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correcaminos
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I totally agree with this.
Just read that this morning. Well tolerated as well by teens. Seeking approval in the coming weeks. All good news!Pfizer is 100% effective against disease on kids 12-15.
AstraZeneca vaccine - was it really worth it?
AstraZeneca has become a political football in a European blame game over its Covid vaccine.
www.bbc.co.uk
ToTBellHop
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Off to Chit Chat?! No!
Disney Analyst
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Important reminder to not let your guard down even if vaccinated, until a majority are and transmission slows.
Really good news. We can add about 30M additional people to the vaccine pool once fully approved. I know there are anti-vaxx slanted people deeply opposed to kids getting the vaccine but my 14 year old will be getting his shot as soon as they authorize and I can find him an appointment. I assume in states where it’s open to the general public they will be eligible as soon as approved and a little later in other states. 12-17 will still need to get Pfizer only but that shouldn’t be an issue now that supply is ramped up.Pfizer is 100% effective against disease on kids 12-15.
bdearl41
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And I bet all 100 feel just fine
danlb_2000
Premium Member
Not all, but most...
"However, at least eight people with breakthrough cases have been hospitalized. The Washington State Department of Health is also investigating two potential breakthrough cases where the individuals died. Both patients were over 80 years old and suffered from underlying health issues."