News Cost Cutting Measures Coming Early 2025

[John park hopper]

False Hope? Do people really love Dinosaur that much? I get that in the context of Rivers of America or Muppets, but Dinosaur?

What kid doesn't love dinosaurs

 

[mkt]

Then explain Galaxies Edge? There was supposed to be a lot more to that land but it got cut at the last minute New Fantasyland was supposed to be a lot different but we ended up with a bunch of Princess stuff.

That sounds more like a change of scope than a budget cut

 

[mkt]

…rockets are expensive, dude

Maybe they should stop serving avocado toast at the employee canteen

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

By cost cutting and cutting budgets on new attractions.

Due to cost cutting and price increases

It’s in the quarterlies…for 3 years

 

[larryz]

This is where all the false rumors will come from in about a year.

I reserve the right to spread false rumors in any thread I so choose...

 

[larryz]

Then again, Indy is an IP, and IPs have synergy and sell merch. Dinosaur has no ip. If dinosaur survives Indy somehow, NO WAY it is forever.

Uh, did you miss this bomb?

 

[JD80]

I feel like some of the people that are complaining about "budget cuts" etc. have never actually worked on a complex project before. It happens all the time at every level of the project which include increasing budgets, changing goals etc.

 

[Jrb1979]

I feel like some of the people that are complaining about "budget cuts" etc. have never actually worked on a complex project before. It happens all the time at every level of the project which include increasing budgets, changing goals etc.

That's fine but then don't announce all these things before hand. Be like every other park and only announce new attractions well into the construction phase. End the D23 expos

 

[GhostHost1000]

That's fine but then don't announce all these things before hand. Be like every other park and only announce new attractions well into the construction phase. End the D23 expos

If they want the D23 expos that’s fine, but enough with showing things that aren’t in progress. The more they do that and things get cancelled, the less trust we have in what they tell us which is why every time I see concept art now I’ll believe it looks like that or even happened when I see it

 

[Dranth]

That's fine but then don't announce all these things before hand. Be like every other park and only announce new attractions well into the construction phase. End the D23 expos

Come on man.

Disney shouldn't announce projects to prevent some people feeling like things were budget cut? They should just ignore all the people who like these announcements? Who like watching the progress? Who appreciate seeing how these projects evolve? D23 exists for a reason.

How about the people who can't handle their own expectations just stop paying attention instead of insisting others lose out.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

If they want the D23 expos that’s fine, but enough with showing things that aren’t in progress. The more they do that and things get cancelled, the less trust we have in what they tell us which is why every time I see concept art now I’ll believe it looks like that or even happened when I see it

It’s just a comic con…

But for some reason people now pick and choose whether it’s that…or an SEC filing…

And then they make excuses or do lame podcasts…vacillate between the 2

 

[Jrb1979]

Come on man.

Disney shouldn't announce projects to prevent some people feeling like things were budget cut? They should just ignore all the people who like these announcements? Who like watching the progress? Who appreciate seeing how these projects evolve? D23 exists for a reason.

How about the people who can't handle their own expectations just stop paying attention instead of insisting others lose out.

I never said not to announce anything. If they need announce new attractions at D23 keep it to things that are well past the concept art of phase. Attractions that are coming in the next year or two.

 

[WorldExplorer]

I swear I feel like I've fallen into an alternate dimension whenever people start acting like dinosaurs aren't a huge thing. I see those things everywhere.

Uh, did you miss this bomb?
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Dinosaur was the fifth highest grossing film of 2000 (highest grossing animated film) and fourth highest home video seller of 2001. Adjusted for inflation it made over 600 million.

It didn't have a lasting impact, but it was absolutely not a bomb.

 

[Dranth]

I never said not to announce anything. If they need announce new attractions at D23 keep it to things that are well past the concept art of phase. Attractions that are coming in the next year or two.

Again, some of us enjoy the earlier look at things but even if they waited, that still wouldn't prevent a budget running over and modifications being made.

 

[mattpeto]

It would take something catastrophic for Indy to not happen now.

Unfortunately some people here would like that just to be proven right…

 

[lazyboy97o]

Then explain Galaxies Edge? There was supposed to be a lot more to that land but it got cut at the last minute New Fantasyland was supposed to be a lot different but we ended up with a bunch of Princess stuff.

How many times does this need to be explained? If you’re redoing your kitchen and end up buying a more basic refrigerator because you got a fancier oven, you didn’t cut your budget. You spent the same amount of money, just differently.

In general yes that's true. Compared to other park companies most don't cut the budget much. For most the new attractions, what they reveal is what they end up being.

Most parks are spending the bulk of their money on something that already exists. Even custom coaster layouts are compromised of lot established and understood components.

I understand many of you have been around a lot longer than me, but the jaded pessimism is really something.

How is pessimism not the appropriate response to this subject? What is supposed to be the world’s premier fixed amusement company is once again starting to panic over something that anyone with a modicum of sense and experience would have foreseen. There is absolutely no reason for cuts unless you have no understanding of the business and are thoroughly incapable of explaining the ups and downs of the business.

 

[Disgruntled Walt]

It would take something catastrophic for Indy to not happen now.

I would consider it miraculous!

 

[BrianLo]

We could reduce 75% of this thread if people understood the difference between operational cost cutting and capital expenditure.

How did we escalate from they are reducing kitchen staff to Tropical Americas is in trouble?

The last real significant tightening (during normal times) was 2015 against Shanghai. It really did nothing to WDW's capital expenditure plan. Quarterly belt tightening is pretty normal when we know they are having a soft 2 quarters followed by improved metrics post Epic..

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

Unfortunately some people here would like that just to be proven right…

the only people I see insisting they are 100% right are the people that are 100% sure it’s going to happen.

I believe it’s still the plan but until dinosaur actually closes I do believe that plans could change. The odds of them changing I have no idea.

 

[BrianLo]

1. I’d say that one is almost certain to never happen…a “blue sky” misdirection by design to sell timeshares
2. That one I think is pretty assured. Like 75%. Only if water management is a headache Will they scrap that
3. Nah…that’s a go. Its ip bombardment and reskinned RNRC to call it something “new”. Not really a net add either…assuming no show ever arrives…just the door ride.
4/5. That’s a go…more ip bombardment. Though I bet what they’re planning is inadequate to provide Crowd relief or a new draw to dak. Gotta aim bigger.

Even Walter thinks 4/5 of the major projects are going to occur. That's practically unbridled optimism.