Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

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Timmay

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They do when there is a visitor limitation. Anyone with a medical problem can check into the ER, but the pubic can and will be removed from the premises.

I’m sure there is either an outright ban or a severe limit on visitors in those hospitals because of Covid.
There is a difference between people visiting patient care areas and people seeking life-saving shelter. Hospitals have many areas, conference rooms, cafeterias, etc., in which people can stay temporarily that has no impact on clinical staff.

Hopefully it won’t come to hospitals having to decide to turn people away.
 

Heppenheimer

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The slooooow March towards vaccine coverage continues, and at this rate we will be in a better place by…February?!?!


70% seems kind of arbitrary at this point. It certainly is better than where we stand now, and it will definately relieve some of the pressure on hospitals. But as we've seen, 70% isn't nearly enough to prevent the virus from ripping through the unvaccinated population.

Pediatric EUA can't come soon enough, although I fear the same pattern of low uptake in certain regions will probably mirror the adult population... unless state and regional governments show some courage and mandate the vaccines for schools.
 

Heppenheimer

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There is a difference between people visiting patient care areas and people seeking life-saving shelter. Hospitals have many areas, conference rooms, cafeterias, etc., in which people can stay temporarily that has no impact on clinical staff.

Hopefully it won’t come to hospitals having to decide to turn people away.
Either way, its going to further strain a system that's already heavily overburdened. True, someone simply sheltering in a hospital won't chew up nearly as many resources as an admitted patient, but it will still require extra staffing, security and food.

And if I-10 gets knocked out like happened during Katrina, the situation will be even worse.
 

Zummi Gummi

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The slooooow March towards vaccine coverage continues, and at this rate we will be in a better place by…February?!?!


Once the EUE for 5-11 comes, I think you’ll see that number increase at a much faster rate. A lot of parents of school aged children will want their kids vaccinated right away.
 

Timmay

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Either way, its going to further strain a system that's already heavily overburdened. True, someone simply sheltering in a hospital won't chew up nearly as many resources as an admitted patient, but it will still require extra staffing, security and food.

And if I-10 gets knocked out like happened during Katrina, the situation will be even worse.
Absolutely.
 

MaximumEd

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Katrina was a cat 5 and the real damage was from flooding caused by the canal wall failure. It played out over days as the water rose.
The wind effects are secondary but the storm surge will tell the tale of what damage is done.
I don’t think Katrina was a 5 at landfall. Pretty sure I read only 4 have made landfall as a 5…..Labor Day, Camille, Andrew, and Michael. I could be wrong.
 

Disney Experience

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For some reason, the Pfizer-BioNtech vaccine is now named Comirnaty. I guess they wanted something less pronounceable.
It was given that name ( By Pfizer/BioNtech ) last fall. I even linked the name announcement back then.

Pfizer vaccine is just easier to say and spell. I do not think Pfizer will get much traction in getting people to use the brand name, they haven’t so far.
 
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Heelz2315

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I track this every day. We’ve seen a sizeable uptick in first shots this month. We’re averaging around 300k/day for the month. Around 400k over this past 10 days.

even if things slow we’ll be close or or surpasses 200M fully vaccinated by the end of the year. We’ll probably need somewhere in the neighborhood of 230-250 k fully vaccinated to considerably slow down Covid. We should hit that by May at the latest

if we hit thag goal and nothing comes along that pierces immunity and we can get the boosters administered we should be out of the woods starting next spring
 

Polkadotdress

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70% seems kind of arbitrary at this point. It certainly is better than where we stand now, and it will definately relieve some of the pressure on hospitals. But as we've seen, 70% isn't nearly enough to prevent the virus from ripping through the unvaccinated population.
Well, we were initially thinking 70% was what was needed for herd immunity, right? And now, that the estimate is much higher, if that Tweet were to be updated, it would likely say “Estimate time of completion: when pigs fly.”
 

correcaminos

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It was given that name ( By Pfizer/BioNtech ) last fall. I even linked the name announcement back then.

Pfizer vaccine is just easier to say and spell. I do not think Pfizer will get much traction in getting people to use the brand name, they haven’t so far.
Given all the phizer and pizers and such I see, I am not sure I agree. Nevermind BioNTech
 

DCBaker

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"Florida on Saturday reported to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention that 21,189 COVID-19 cases were added Friday, according to Miami Herald calculations of CDC data.

The state also reported 11 new deaths. In all, Florida has recorded at least 3,200,682 confirmed COVID cases statewide and 43,651 deaths.

There were 16,164 people in the hospital for COVID-19 in Florida on Saturday, according to data reported to the U.S. Department of Health & Human Services from 258 Florida hospitals. This is 293 fewer patients than Friday’s COVID patient population.

COVID-19 patients also accounted for 27.95% of all hospital patients.

Of the hospitalized in Florida, 3,556 COVID patients were in intensive care unit beds, a decrease of 52. That represents 53.27% of the state’s ICU hospital beds from 258 hospitals reporting data."

 

carolina_yankee

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Unfortunately, full hospitals are having an impact on lives.


More stories like this Googling around. The unfortunate things is that a place for treatment was found, but too late. Get the vaccine. Mask and distance if transmission is high in your community.

Another interesting observation (either in this article or another one I read, cna’t remember): since COVID patients are now younger and healthier, they are staying in the hospital longer, and on vents longer, before improving or dying because they have more fight in them. An interesting inverse affect. Youth may give you a higher chance at recovering while still requiring more resources to get you there.
 

SammyMF

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Every day I see the number of Covid positive cases added. But how many are presumed recovered that same day? Perhaps the number from two weeks ago, allowing that amount of time to recover as an example? And of course subtracting deaths. I suppose its possible to get various ballparks but with a pretty significant margin of error since its not a hard number like hospitalizations or confirmed positives. You cant confirm a negative, in logic-speak.

This is not a comment on the seriousness of the pandemic. Nor how to fight it. Just that if we are going to be obsessed over daily numbers then we should also understand all the other numbers that arrive at them. As well as other numbers that, pardon me for saying, just arent as interesting. The media knows that talking about the number of positives reported that day generates viewers and web hits. Recoveries do not.
 

Disney Experience

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Given all the phizer and pizers and such I see, I am not sure I agree. Nevermind BioNTech
How often have we seen the brand name of their covid vaccine used vs news and people calling it “the Pfizer vaccine”.

i know that I have heard it called the Pfizer vaccine alot. Perhaps different outside the USA.
 

Touchdown

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Every day I see the number of Covid positive cases added. But how many are presumed recovered that same day? Perhaps the number from two weeks ago, allowing that amount of time to recover as an example? And of course subtracting deaths. I suppose its possible to get various ballparks but with a pretty significant margin of error since its not a hard number like hospitalizations or confirmed positives. You cant confirm a negative, in logic-speak.

This is not a comment on the seriousness of the pandemic. Nor how to fight it. Just that if we are going to be obsessed over daily numbers then we should also understand all the other numbers that arrive at them. As well as other numbers that, pardon me for saying, just arent as interesting. The media knows that talking about the number of positives reported that day generates viewers and web hits. Recoveries do not.
My state views cases as active until either specifically told the person has recovered (or died) or 30 days have passed since diagnosis.
 
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