Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

[Kman]

I think it's definitely coming. It's a way to avoid another lockdown and keep businesses open.

Living in Ontario...I sincerely hope they bring this in.

 

[Kman]

I think you are right, unsure what Quebec’s rules are, but I figured once one of us did it, many more would follow.

Just came back from Quebec City and nothing is in place yet but I believe September 1st is when it is happening

 

[CLEtoWDW]

Took a trip to WDW last weekend, fully vaccinated. Covid test results came back today (4-5 days after trip end) and Negative. No symptoms, but was still curious after being around so many people in close quarters.

I wasn't too worried but I know that many others are, so I figured I'd add this data point.

Went last week when Florida was “on fire” and entire family is fine. Just goes to show it’s far more likely to not come down with COVID versus catch COVID from the theme parks. But the media continues to make it seem like if you even leave your home you will get COVID. Nonsense.

 

[Lilofan]

Went last week when Florida was “on fire” and entire family is fine. Just goes to show it’s far more likely to not come down with COVID versus catch COVID from the theme parks. But the media continues to make it seem like if you even leave your home you will get COVID. Nonsense.

Leaving your home is always a risk. A forum member recently posted that 90 out of 205 Reedy Creek firefighters at WDW are out of work for covid and or quarantine.

 

[Sans Souci]

I guess our FDA is unaware that millions of doses of Ivermectin has been given to humans around the globe for decades with a very good safety record.

Whoever at the FDA posted that or approved it to be posted should be fired. A more reasonable tweet would have effectively given the message to not take horse pills. This was a government sponsored troll and not helping in my opinion. It was a sick burn and really funny, I'll grant you, but we sure don't like the shoe being on the other foot.

Perhaps the energy would be better spent determining whether or not this drug has a place in fighting or preventing covid.

I don't think the FDA is trying to say ivermectin is not useful drug. They are warning people not to buy ivermectin at Farm and Fleet for personal consumption. Medicine for livestock is likely to be in a concentration that is injurious to humans.

 

[LaughingGravy]

Speaking of risky, Jesse Jackson is a pretty public figure. I wonder how much he and anyone else with a breakthrough symptomatic infection practiced in the way of good habits since getting the vaccine. I'm confident there are some with breakthrough cases who have thrown caution to the wind.
It's still a good idea to mask up in public, keep greater distances than pre-covid, minimize contact, and also still wash hands well and avoid touching of face, including eyes until hands are washed or sanitized.
Our local theater started set construction this weekend and the rules are vaccinated and masked only.

 

[Lilofan]

I don't think the FDA is trying to say ivermectin is not useful drug. They are warning people not to buy ivermectin at Farm and Fleet for personal consumption. Medicine for livestock is likely to be in a concentration that is injurious to humans.

A few in Mississippi have already used ivermectin according to reports and are now hospitalized.

 

[Heppenheimer]

Thank you.

And I thought I saw somewhere supposition that the reason, some areas of the world saw some benefit to patients given Ivermectin, was because parasitic infections were common in those areas. That by treating the parasitic infection, their bodies were able to have that little bit extra to successfully fight off SARS-CoV-2 infection. But all the medicine was doing was treating the parasitic infection, and nothing against COVID directly. So if Americans are asking if this can help them. The first question they should ask themselves is: "Do you think you have an untreated parasitic infection?"

The original trial also was not properly randomized. Upon review, the placebo group contained more comorbities. So, although it was presented as evidence that ivermectin is an effective COVID treatment, when those results could not subsequently be replicated under better controls, all it did was reinforce what we already knew- unhealthier people fare worse with COVID.

 

[Lilofan]

Speaking of risky, Jesse Jackson is a pretty public figure. I wonder how much he and anyone else with a breakthrough symptomatic infection practiced in the way of good habits since getting the vaccine. I'm confident there are some with breakthrough cases who have thrown caution to the wind.
It's still a good idea to mask up in public, keep greater distances than pre-covid, minimize contact, and also still wash hands well and avoid touching of face, including eyes until hands are washed or sanitized.
Our local theater started set construction this weekend and the rules are vaccinated and masked only.

Jesse Jackson made news when he publicly advised he got the Pfizer vaccine in January and encouraged more to do so. On the flip side, TN conservative talk show host Phil Valentine recently succumbed to covid at age 61 and before telling his audience about downplaying covid and vaccines. He refused to get vaccinated.

 

[Heppenheimer]

See everyone... Was that so hard? Answering a simple question.

Lol.

Thank you for taking the time.

My thoughts are (and again, I'm not trying to weave a conspiracy here)... Did they know there would be this "leakage"? Did they know that the spike protein would dissipate rather quickly or was it a happy accident? It makes some sense that they would as best as I can discern from your medical textbook. (still awaiting my medical degree after wading through that)

I have other thoughts pertaining to some other stuff regarding narrative but I may take that to the other forum.

Again...

The spike protein, whether generated by the virus or vaccine, lacks the HLA residue that each person's immune system uses to identify "self". A naked spike protein without the other features of a viral particle that allow it to replicate pretty much gets mopped up by the immune system very quickly. This is a deliberate feature of the vaccine. It doesn't make sense to engineer a spike proetein to feature each individual's HLA sequence, because then it wouldn't generate an immune response. Which is, of course, the whole purpose of the vaccine.

 

[Jrb1979]

Living in Ontario...I sincerely hope they bring this in.

I think they will. Going by the fact the OHL and MLSE have said all fans need to be vaccinated to enter the arena, I think they are getting ready for it to come in place.

 

[DisneyDebRob]

3rd state to hit 3 million cases is Florida. Surpassed by only 15 countries. That’s just reckless and a disgrace IMO. Someone here was talking about why a radio host would want their listeners to be sick or even possibly die.. you can probably ask some governors the same thing about their people in their state.

Florida's COVID surge 'a crisis of unprecedented proportions,' doctor says; school districts battle for masks. Latest COVID-19 updates

Florida school districts are in the middle of a tug-of-war between state and federal authorities over mask mandates. The latest COVID updates.

www.google.com

 

[LaughingGravy]

You are going to change some anti vaxxer minds when a loved one succumbs to covid.

That appears to be the only convincer for some folks. For even some more, that still doesn't do the trick.
It does seem to work when someone in their 30s and 40s with families ( spouse and kids) and no previous issues with a healthy diet and impressive exercise regimen gets sick and dies within a couple of weeks or less. Sucks for the immediate families, though.

20 years from now in history books...They had a vaccine. It was free. There were so many available to them, the vaccines were starting to expire before demand/use. They had access to all kinds of sources of information, but they chose not to get the vaccine based on the advice of those who themselves got the vaccine but would not volunteer that information to their followers. There were other countries who had inferior or no vaccines which would have helped the situation had they gotten more of the excess from the US.

 

[Nubs70]

I don't think the FDA is trying to say ivermectin is not useful drug. They are warning people not to buy ivermectin at Farm and Fleet for personal consumption. Medicine for livestock is likely to be in a concentration that is injurious to humans.

That's why you look at the concentration of active ingredient and prescribed human dosage in milligram of active/ kg weight. Then compensate

 

[Polkadotdress]

That's why you look at the concentration of active ingredient and prescribed human dosage in milligram of active/ kg weight. Then compensate

No, that’s why you don’t take drugs meant for animals.

 

[kong1802]

That's why you look at the concentration of active ingredient and prescribed human dosage in milligram of active/ kg weight. Then compensate

No. That’s why you go see a doctor and if they prescribe you something you get said prescription at a pharmacy…

You don’t go prescribing yourself something and then go and pick it up at the feed store….

 

[JoeCamel]

That's why you look at the concentration of active ingredient and prescribed human dosage in milligram of active/ kg weight. Then compensate

These people are not that smart.
What was the drug at the beginning of this that people died from? Some type of aquarium cleaner? Was that hydroxychloroquine?

Same thing, they just gobbled it up after hearing the grifters push it

 

[LittleBuford]

That's why you look at the concentration of active ingredient and prescribed human dosage in milligram of active/ kg weight. Then compensate

Better still, you get the vaccine instead.

 

[Ayla]

That's why you look at the concentration of active ingredient and prescribed human dosage in milligram of active/ kg weight. Then compensate

They are stupid enough to claim they won't get the free vaccine because "I don't know the side effects or what's in it" but yet, they'll take a medicine that is meant for horses or cows, not having the faintest clue of the ingredients.

Sounds about right.

 

[lewisc]

No. That’s why you go see a doctor and if they prescribe you something you get said prescription at a pharmacy…

You don’t go prescribing yourself something and then go and pick it up at the feed store….

That's not fun. Some people like thinking they more then the "experts" and place value in their "research" with questionable websites and commentators.

It's amazing how many people accept snake oil suggestions and have no confidence in real medical advice.