Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

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DisneyCane

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We have an all employee meeting tomorrow. One major thing we assume is everyone going back to being masked.
But at this point there are rumors or speculation about if the company plans to mandate vaccination as well now. Guess we'll find out, if so I'll update.

There is definitely some buzz around my company too. We are already back to masks for everyone. we shall see.
If I owned a company with employees (I don't currently), I'd mandate vaccination but not out of some altruistic motivation. I wouldn't want my employees missing extended time due to getting sick with COVID.

I'd probably not make it a condition of employment but have a policy that if you don't get vaccinated, you don't get paid sick time. If you are out sick with something that isn't COVID, I'd require a negative test as proof to get the sick time paid.
 

Patcheslee

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Did you ever drive through a DUI checkpoint? The vast majority of people who do are not drunk. It happens all the time that someone who isn’t drunk is inconvenienced in an attempt to eliminate drunk drivers.
I absolutely hate those checkpoints but that's cause they aren't always legit looking for DUI. I was pulled out and given a road side test: red eyes from allergies lol. Passed that because I hadn't been drinking. That turned into suspension of drugs and a K9 search. Only "drugs" in my car were SUPRISE my zyrtec. But I'm also in a small town where cops assume if you dress a certain way, then you must be up to something bad.
 

Andrew C

You know what's funny?
I absolutely hate those checkpoints but that's cause they aren't always legit looking for DUI. I was pulled out and given a road side test: red eyes from allergies lol. Passed that because I hadn't been drinking. That turned into suspension of drugs and a K9 search. Only "drugs" in my car were SUPRISE my zyrtec. But I'm also in a small town where cops assume if you dress a certain way, then you must be up to something bad.
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Patcheslee

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If I owned a company with employees (I don't currently), I'd mandate vaccination but not out of some altruistic motivation. I wouldn't want my employees missing extended time due to getting sick with COVID.

I'd probably not make it a condition of employment but have a policy that if you don't get vaccinated, you don't get paid sick time. If you are out sick with something that isn't COVID, I'd require a negative test as proof to get the sick time paid.
We're union so if they planned on mandating it would take more time to work with the union on it.
I'm hoping they change our time off policy because it's honestly BS to still be required to take off if vaccinated but have negative result, but no pay. Only time that is paid is with a positive result at 50-80% depending on attendance. Kinda seems like a punishment for the ones trying to do the right thing reporting symptoms.
 

GoofGoof

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If I owned a company with employees (I don't currently), I'd mandate vaccination but not out of some altruistic motivation. I wouldn't want my employees missing extended time due to getting sick with COVID.

I'd probably not make it a condition of employment but have a policy that if you don't get vaccinated, you don't get paid sick time. If you are out sick with something that isn't COVID, I'd require a negative test as proof to get the sick time paid.
We don’t have sick days so that wouldn’t work, but I get your point. I think most companies are doing it to keep their workers safe, keep production from being distrusted or in retail or customer facing roles to instill a sense of safety and comfort in customers. I saw a recent poll that said consumer confidence in visiting theme parks dropped recently. It would be a nice benefit for Disney to be able to advertise that their CMs are all vaccinated.
 

draybook

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You guys went maskless at your workplaces? We've been full masks forever. Of course, we send out medical supplies, so it makes sense.
 

GoofGoof

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You guys went maskless at your workplaces? We've been full masks forever. Of course, we send out medical supplies, so it makes sense.
We switched to no masks for fully vaccinated. You had to provide a copy of your vaccination card to be allowed to not wear a mask. We are now back to everyone wears a mask on-site regardless of vaccination status.
 

dreday3

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If the results from both Pfizer and Moderna Phase 3 6 month trial review holds true in the larger population and with delta then Pfizer vaccinated population will need a booster three times sooner than Moderna vaccinated population.

Anecdotal , but my wife being Phase 3 trial Moderna and getting her final shot one month ( October ) after my Phase 3 trial Pfizer shots … combined with Moderna’s slower decline in effectiveness may be why in June she did not get covid and I did.

I feel like...I got my second Moderna shot beginning of Feb....if they say I need a booster before winter, I want my booster! :D
 

draybook

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We switched to no masks for fully vaccinated. You had to provide a copy of your vaccination card to be allowed to not wear a mask. We are now back to everyone wears a mask on-site regardless of vaccination status.


That's what was put out in a company memo a couple of months ago but then it was left open to each site's descretion. Our director is all about staying masked up, shots, no contact even with family, the whole works. He said he wants us to mask up for at least 2 more months and then go from there. Thank God the facility has a/c.
 

Wendy Pleakley

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Isn't that what they said about a full lockdown and masks on everyone?

No. No one said this. How is this still a talking point?

Masks and other restrictions were tools to control COVID as much as possible, to avoid having hospitals over capacity and to buy some time until vaccines were ready for use.

Vaccination has always been the goal. Herd immunity is the goal, but too many people aren't getting vaccinated so COVID continues to be more of an issue than it could be.
 

Lilofan

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Where was he shopping?

Are you sure you aren't confusing this story with the agent in Brooklyn who was fired. In the Brooklyn incident in probably had more to do with him telling the Asian manager to "go back to China" vs. the refusal to wear a mask.
It was Florida Man at Ft Myers Costco. His employer then fired him after the guy went all out Karen on staff and fellow customers.
 
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RobbinsDad

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If this is a real plateau and not the result of data reporting anomalies or severe lack of testing, it would indicate that there are a lot more naturally infected/protected people in Florida than thought. It would indicate the spike peaking much more quickly relative to India and the UK.
And half the adult population is fully vaccinated. Not nearly enough, but between vaccinations and antibodies the damage from Delta might be capped. The problem will lie if/when another Greek letter catches hold.
 

RobbinsDad

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If I owned a company with employees (I don't currently), I'd mandate vaccination but not out of some altruistic motivation. I wouldn't want my employees missing extended time due to getting sick with COVID.

I'd probably not make it a condition of employment but have a policy that if you don't get vaccinated, you don't get paid sick time. If you are out sick with something that isn't COVID, I'd require a negative test as proof to get the sick time paid.
Insurers are going to have a lot to say about this before it's over too. Can absolutely see them charging a higher group rate for employers without a COVID vaccination policy. All once the vaccine is fully-approved and available for the entire population of course.
 

Andrew C

You know what's funny?
This is not meant to be a political statement. Just showing how covid makes not great situations even worse...

 

CaptainAmerica

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This mentality is exactly the problem now. Vaccines never work in the singular like you are saying. They rely on groups to create solid immunity for all. Otherwise with any disease running rampant vaccines singularly won't be as effective. The amount of people who do not understand this astounds me. Do pediatricians not use this as a line of explaining why one should vaccinate?
I mean, these vaccines DO work in the singular though. They're not 100% effective in the singular, of course, but if you were the only person on the planet with two doses of Pfizer and nobody else got vaccinated at all, it's still EXTREMELY effective.
 

DisneyFan32

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In the Parks
Yes
Masks and other restrictions were tools to control COVID as much as possible, to avoid having hospitals over capacity and to buy some time until vaccines were ready for use.
Until FDA approval vaccines by end of August or early September before fall season starts.:D
 

GoofGoof

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And half the adult population is fully vaccinated. Not nearly enough, but between vaccinations and antibodies the damage from Delta might be capped. The problem will lie if/when another Greek letter catches hold.
Technically close to 60.7% of adults nationally and 59.1% in FL. So while FL is below average they actually aren’t bottom 10. I suspect part of the issue is FL heavily pushed the vaccinations for 65+ and due to a larger than avg number of 65+ (according to Family Guy FL is heavens waiting room:)) the adult percent is boosted. The under 65 crowd is the problem right now and FL is further from average there.
 

CaptainAmerica

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Technically close to 60.7% of adults nationally and 59.1% in FL. So while FL is below average they actually aren’t bottom 10. I suspect part of the issue is FL heavily pushed the vaccinations for 65+ and due to a larger than avg number of 65+ (according to Family Guy FL is heavens waiting room:)) the adult percent is boosted. The under 65 crowd is the problem right now and FL is further from average there.
There's also the seasonality component. July is when Florida, Texas, and Louisiana are indoors.
 
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