Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

[Touchdown]

With the vaccines coming on line the pandemic will end this year as long as enough people take it even if there was nobody serving as President.

The vaccines are what will end the pandemic, not policies or anything else.

No vaccinations will end this pandemic and our civil leaders will have a part (not just development but organization and selling to the public) to play.

 

[jmp85]

Alright fellas. Booked a trip for the middle of May. As my old buddy Rafiki would say, it is time.

 

[Disstevefan1]

With the vaccines coming on line the pandemic will end this year as long as enough people take it even if there was nobody serving as President.

The vaccines are what will end the pandemic, not policies or anything else.

I agree, but dont worry when the pandemic ends Joe and Kam will take FULL CREDIT. Joe & Kam 2024! Unless Joe is removed/replaced by Kam before 2024, then it’s Kam & AOC 2024! ..... Donald J who?

This is going to be a wild ride!

 

[DisneyDebRob]

I agree, but dont worry when the pandemic ends Joe and Kam will take FULL CREDIT. Joe & Kam 2024! Unless Joe is removed/replaced by Kam before 2024, then it’s Kam & AOC 2024! ..... Donald J who?

This is going to be a wild ride!

There is a political forum for all your latest posts.

 

[Touchdown]

Hey GimpYanclent, what’s so funny about my post? The vaccine does nothing if it doesn’t go into arms. As the past month has demonstrated, simply having the vaccine isn’t enough, America’s vaccine rollout has been nothing short of embarrassing. Of the roughly 36 mil doses we supposedly have, only 16 mil have been given (and only in 14 mil people, 2 million have gotten both shots.)

This country has 331 million people, we have a long way to go, and the federal government will need to do its part.

 

[DCBaker]

Numbers are out - there were 142 new reported deaths, along with 3 Non-Florida Resident deaths.

 

[DisneyDebRob]

Just another report released on why masks, especially indoors is so important.

 

[DisneyCane]

Hey GimpYanclent, what’s so funny about my post? The vaccine does nothing if it doesn’t go into arms. As the past month has demonstrated, simply having the vaccine isn’t enough, America’s vaccine rollout has been nothing short of embarrassing. Of the roughly 36 mil doses we supposedly have, only 16 mil have been given (and only in 14 mil people, 2 million have gotten both shots.)

This country has 331 million people, we have a long way to go, and the federal government will need to do its part.

There are reporting delays that are making the usage look worse than it really is. Just look at the backfilled data on the FL report every day.

As far as second shot you have to wait either 3 or 4 weeks after the first shot. We're barely into that time frame for the initial injections.

I fully expect supply to be the issue in short order. How much it has to do with the new administration, we'll see. I'm give them credit if they implement things that make a real difference

 

[Disstevefan1]

There is a political forum for all your latest posts.

Look ^^^^^^ this thread is tagged politics and I was replying to a post about Joe & Kam so I am indeed in the right place. Besides now all is right with the world...... Oh look a butterfly

 

[DCBaker]

I agree, but dont worry when the pandemic ends Joe and Kam will take FULL CREDIT. Joe & Kam 2024! Unless Joe is removed/replaced by Kam before 2024, then it’s Kam & AOC 2024! ..... Donald J who?

This is going to be a wild ride!

Look ^^^^^^ this thread is tagged politics and I was replying to a post about Joe & Kam so I am indeed in the right place. Besides now all is right with the world...... Oh look a butterfly

As a reminder again, this is not a general political thread - there is an entire section for that.

Please try to remain on topic. Thanks

 

[DisneyDebRob]

Umm...

This is a political forum. It says so right at the top.

Please see DCBaker’s post. It’s not a general political thread, must pertain to the thread.. not personal feelings on who’s in charge.

 

[sullyinMT]

There are reporting delays that are making the usage look worse than it really is. Just look at the backfilled data on the FL report every day.

As far as second shot you have to wait either 3 or 4 weeks after the first shot. We're barely into that time frame for the initial injections.

I fully expect supply to be the issue in short order. How much it has to do with the new administration, we'll see. I'm give them credit if they implement things that make a real difference

For the timing of second shots you’re absolutely right. Reporting delays are also valid. There is still a lot that can be done, from cleaning up reporting delays and some type of ad/info campaign as to why getting vaccinated is safe and important.

We can’t retrofit factories to produce vaccine like it was a P51 or B17, but the DPA can be expanded in its use to procure components and clear up supply chain distribution channels. In the spirit of OWS that cleared the bureaucratic and monetary way for vaccine development, we need a more centralized response in how to get the shots into patients. States have done some things very well, and have learned on the fly. But we can do better if there were clearer communication from the top as to what was coming when. It seems weekly distribution shipments are still a bit haphazard.

Lastly, why FEMA hasn’t been dispatched in all 50 states and our territories (or at least where states of emergency are still declared which I assume is everywhere) to assist where they can is something I’d like to understand better.

I don’t believe our new president can do all of this on his own, nor do I believe he and his team will deserve sole credit when things shake out and improve. But I’m hopeful that some or all of these things will be done in some fashion, and that’s not a bad thing for us as a nation. If manufacturing of vaccines gets up to full bore, it will be good for the globe, as well, as production will far outstrip our population.

 

[SamusAranX]

For the timing of second shots you’re absolutely right. Reporting delays are also valid. There is still a lot that can be done, from cleaning up reporting delays and some type of ad/info campaign as to why getting vaccinated is safe and important.

We can’t retrofit factories to produce vaccine like it was a P51 or B17, but the DPA can be expanded in its use to procure components and clear up supply chain distribution channels. In the spirit of OWS that cleared the bureaucratic and monetary way for vaccine development, we need a more centralized response in how to get the shots into patients. States have done some things very well, and have learned on the fly. But we can do better if there were clearer communication from the top as to what was coming when. It seems weekly distribution shipments are still a bit haphazard.

Lastly, why FEMA hasn’t been dispatched in all 50 states and our territories (or at least where states of emergency are still declared which I assume is everywhere) to assist where they can is something I’d like to understand better.

I don’t believe our new president can do all of this on his own, nor do I believe he and his team will deserve sole credit when things shake out and improve. But I’m hopeful that some or all of these things will be done in some fashion, and that’s not a bad thing for us as a nation. If manufacturing of vaccines gets up to full bore, it will be good for the globe, as well, as production will far outstrip our population.

FEMA has for most of its history been a crapfest. No matter what party, it seems to be so hit or miss with disaster relief.

 

[Incomudro]

Joe and Kamala could effectively end the pandemic this year if things go fast enough

They'll certainly take the credit for ending it, and most of the media will gushingly praise them for it.

 

[sullyinMT]

FEMA has for most of its history been a crapfest. No matter what party, it seems to be so hit or miss with disaster relief.

I won’t dispute that. They don’t do much well, optically anyway. Perhaps they can help deliver syringes, needles, help set up mass vaccine clinics, operate data entry. At least that seems easier on paper than aiding in rebuilding homes and coordinating clean up.

 

[Heppenheimer]

For the timing of second shots you’re absolutely right. Reporting delays are also valid. There is still a lot that can be done, from cleaning up reporting delays and some type of ad/info campaign as to why getting vaccinated is safe and important.

We can’t retrofit factories to produce vaccine like it was a P51 or B17, but the DPA can be expanded in its use to procure components and clear up supply chain distribution channels. In the spirit of OWS that cleared the bureaucratic and monetary way for vaccine development, we need a more centralized response in how to get the shots into patients. States have done some things very well, and have learned on the fly. But we can do better if there were clearer communication from the top as to what was coming when. It seems weekly distribution shipments are still a bit haphazard.

Lastly, why FEMA hasn’t been dispatched in all 50 states and our territories (or at least where states of emergency are still declared which I assume is everywhere) to assist where they can is something I’d like to understand better.

I don’t believe our new president can do all of this on his own, nor do I believe he and his team will deserve sole credit when things shake out and improve. But I’m hopeful that some or all of these things will be done in some fashion, and that’s not a bad thing for us as a nation. If manufacturing of vaccines gets up to full bore, it will be good for the globe, as well, as production will far outstrip our population.

Just to clear something up...FEMA is not what many people seem to think it is. It primarily functions as a coordinating body, but other than access to emergency funds, it has very few assets of its own. Even many of the specialists they send to disaster areas function more like the National Guard. They have normal day jobs outside of FEMA, but get activated by request. They're not sitting around at the ready in some kind of centralized FEMA depot. And FEMA generally doesn't stockpile emergency supplies themselves, but they coordinate the transfer between states.

So, they probably aren't particularly well suited for this task, and for them to get involved in the first place would require a governor to declare a disaster.

 

[DCBaker]

Current Florida vaccine report (there was a format change starting today - they have removed the count of people who are overdue for their 2nd dose) -

 

[GoofGoof]

If the pandemic ends this year I could care less who takes credit for it. Joe, Kam, crazy uncle Rudy, one of the Kardashians....makes no difference to me. I can’t believe people are so dug in with politics that there’s actually a concern about who gets credit when this all ends. We’re talking about the end of this god forsaken mess. Keep your eye on the ball.

 

[sullyinMT]

Just to clear something up...FEMA is not what many people seem to think it is. It primarily functions as a coordinating body, but other than access to emergency funds, it has very few assets of its own. Even many of the specialists they send to disaster areas function more like the National Guard. They have normal day jobs outside of FEMA, but get activated by request. They're not sitting around at the ready in some kind of centralized FEMA depot.

So, they probably aren't particularly well suited for this task, and for them to get involved in the first place would require a governor to declare a disaster.

Thanks for clearing that up. I thought disasters had been declared, but I could be confusing disaster and public health emergency.

So perhaps the brand of alphabet soup was misstated. But I stand by the sentiment that some facets of a centralized response, beyond shipping coordination and collecting data by the CDC, is what we need short term to get things moving more smoothly.

 

[Polkadotdress]

There are reporting delays that are making the usage look worse than it really is. Just look at the backfilled data on the FL report every day.

As far as second shot you have to wait either 3 or 4 weeks after the first shot. We're barely into that time frame for the initial injections.

I fully expect supply to be the issue in short order. How much it has to do with the new administration, we'll see. I'm give them credit if they implement things that make a real difference

Today, NYC, San Fran, and south FL are all reporting a shortage of vaccine dosages, which is causing them to have to cancel appointments.