SamusAranX
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That would be good and all, IF not for the fact that Publix is in on it. Pretty sure Amazon contributed to the microchip research fund as well
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Jenny72
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Counterintuitively, some research finds that offering big incentives to get the vaccine can make anti-vaccine people even more resistant to getting it. The idea is that if you have to pay people to do it, it must be bad. On the other hand, the feeling of scarcity might actually make people more want to get it, because if it's hard to get, it must be good. Plus you get the reward of scoring something precious. Maybe one extremely small upside to the current disastrous rollout?
Kevin_W
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Interesting data from Israel: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...e-dose-in-israel-less-effective-than-we-hoped
There are a lot of articles that just quote the headline, but this one at least gives some data (and justifiably draws the conclusion that it's hard to draw conclusions from the data). I think overall, it just emphasizes that you can't dramatically change behaviours the day after your first shot - it still takes time for the body to build immunity.
There are a lot of articles that just quote the headline, but this one at least gives some data (and justifiably draws the conclusion that it's hard to draw conclusions from the data). I think overall, it just emphasizes that you can't dramatically change behaviours the day after your first shot - it still takes time for the body to build immunity.
correcaminos
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So I was contacted today by the trial and I have been unblinded. I did receive the Pfizer/BioNTech vaccine in September. Unlike some here I was not out of commission the next day. I felt warm one day but not bad and the fever was 98.4 vs my normal 97.1. That lasted an hour or so. My arm hurt like the dickens though for two solid days both times. I was fine to go in for work that I do as a music coordinator. Requires lifting heavy binders and putting music together for the musicians at church. So a lot of arm movement. That was the worst. No nausea, or muscle/joint pain for me. Second shot hurt worse than the first going in.
They really only started this week. My dad has his appointment at Kroger for next week when 75+ are allowed. Those who had the shot had to be caregivers or in a care facility.
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GoofGoof
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The goal of offering an incentive is not to attract the anti-vaxx crowd. They aren’t getting it no matter what. The goal would be to attract people who are indifferent and on the fence. If the logistics for getting the vaccine are challenging like waiting in long lines or clicking or calling frequently to get an appointment some people may not bother or get frustrated and give up. Throwing them a carrot may help.
Polkadotdress
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NY is reporting that they will be completely out of vaccine by THURSDAY of this week.
DisneyCane
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Either indifferent, lazy or don't want the side effects being felt by a pretty high percentage of people.
DisneyCane
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If that is true then their reporting to the CDC is WAY behind. I can't imagine they were doing around 200,000 injections a day over the holiday weekend.
DisneyCane
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For anybody 65+ in Palm Beach County or who have friends or relatives that meet that criteria, all Publix locations will have limited appointments online tomorrow for vaccinations. https://www.publix.com/covid-vaccine
This was announced a bit ago by Governor Desantis.
This was announced a bit ago by Governor Desantis.
_caleb
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Now we're trying to convince people who can't be bothered to wear masks (correctly), distance, and stay home as much as possible to willingly suffer day of fatigue and a sore arm.
Or were you trying to imply that worse side effects are widespread?
Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine Reactions & Adverse Events | CDC
Information about reactions and adverse events reported by recipients of the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine
www.cdc.gov
Polkadotdress
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Apologies...it's NYC that's soon out of vaccine doses.
GoofGoof
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That’s good news. Wasn’t the goal to administer the shots quicker so the shots used would be a higher percentage of shots delivered? The big complaint was the states were holding back too many shots. Seems like they are doing that better if they are using all of the available shots.
It’s definitely way behind. I want To know how things are going but I almost feel like that real time tracker is more of a problem than a benefit. Easy to cherry pick a number and write up a negative article or tweet. From the places that have shared more detailed information it seems like the states are doing a better job than reported of using all available doses.
correcaminos
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Because arm soreness is a bad thing? Only roughly 15% are noted to have worse side effects last I read. Thanks again to the news for reporting the way they do. Some friends have had worse than I did, but I can count on one hand those who did. Most were like me or less. Truly your post is not helpful either.
GoofGoof
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I think the point is there are some people who don’t think Covid is a big deal...it’s just the flu...etc... and so they may not be interested in enduring a day or 2 of mild discomfort when they are convinced the virus is no big deal for them. Adding in an economic incentive could motivate them to do it. Sure, it would be great if people just got the vaccine for the greater good and for the economy but for some people that’s just not enough.Now we're trying to convince people who can't be bothered to wear masks (correctly), distance, and stay home as much as possible to willingly suffer day of fatigue and a sore arm.
Or were you trying to imply that worse side effects are widespread?
Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine Reactions & Adverse Events | CDC
Information about reactions and adverse events reported by recipients of the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine
Recent polling still showing only 39% of Trump voters are expected to get the vaccine with 4% already vaccinated. Not sure the motivation of all of the other 57% who won’t get it, but a big part is likely driven by his constant downplayimg of the virus for almost a year now. If you are convinced it’s no big deal you aren’t likely going to change your mind now. Those people are the ones you may reach with the carrot.
Less than 40 percent of Trump voters want the coronavirus vaccine, poll finds
A person's 2020 presidential vote is proving the biggest indicator of whether or not they want a coronavirus vaccine.People who supported President-elect Joe Biden in November are overwhelmingly in favor of getting the COVID-19 vaccine, with 79 percent saying they want it and 4 percent saying...
Disney Experience
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It is good to hear that the second shot does not always bring on chills, body aches, and tiredness as others have (and I had) from the second Pfizer shot.
I have not yet been unblinded, but given the side effects from the second shot I did get , still pretty sure I got the vaccine.
I am not sure if I help the science much by staying blinded, but have done so for now.
Vegas Disney Fan
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Until we have a surplus of vaccines there’s really no reason to offer any incentive, most people I know who are on the fence are worried about the speed it was approved, that problem should solve itself as more and more people know someone who has received the vaccine with no, or minimal, complications.
My age group is still months away from being eligible for a vaccine, it makes no sense to bribe people who don’t want it when there’s tens of millions patiently waiting who do want to get it.
correcaminos
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From all I have read you are more of the exception. Same among friends. Only one wasn't happy the next day, but the rest had arm soreness or a headache and that was it. More friends are getting second dose of Moderna this week.
I received contact from my trial last week about it. Had a call yesterday and 2 follow ups today. Pretty easy. Keeping on my regular 4th visit schedule now for mid March.
Hope you find out soon! Any contact from your company who did the trial?
lazyboy97o
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What concerns me about the side effects is that it does knock people out for a day and for some that means taking off a day of work they might not be willing to take off. I'd like to see more companies offer time off for getting the vaccine. Not so much to induce demand but to help spread it out so we don't get bottlenecks as people wait for Friday to have time off.
The FDOH now has a vaccine locator tool on its website -
"Florida has many sites providing COVID-19 vaccine. Use the vaccine finder to find a site near you. Supplies are limited and appointments may be required.
At this time, vaccine is available for:
"Florida has many sites providing COVID-19 vaccine. Use the vaccine finder to find a site near you. Supplies are limited and appointments may be required.
At this time, vaccine is available for:
- Persons 65 years of age and older.
- Health care personnel with direct patient contact.
- Residents and staff of long-term care facilities."
oceanbreeze77
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I think we will see this more often
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