Only when it doesn’t fit your narrative, of course.
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DisneyCane
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Um, no. I can certainly see the conservative bias in reporting from certain sources.
GoofGoof
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No just the concept that any story that is remotely negative or doesn’t follow the narrative is fake. There has always been bias, there have always been opinions interjected with facts. I think as time goes on we will move away from labeling everything as fake news. Sometimes a story has bias and some stories are even fake, but that doesn’t mean every negative story is automatically fake. This deep state conspiracy stuff dies pretty soon. That’s a good thing.
JoeCamel
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I don't know about the deep state going away, how long have the Illuminati been a thing?
DisneyCane
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I agree that not all stories are fake. Even the ones with strong bias are usually fact based. The article I initially commented on was based on the fact that there was a gap in reporting earlier deaths. The bias was the way it was presented and how it jumped to conclusions about the reason for the gaps. It wasn't made up completely and I never said it was.
SpoiledBlueMilk
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There's bias on both sides. It's increasingly rare not to find it in the most cited news sources - especially on cable news. But that's what we get when media consolidation makes news entertainment instead of journalism most of the time.
GoofGoof
Premium Member
It drew possible conclusions from the available information and clearly stated that the intent was unclear but that it coincided with the election and there was a clear and obvious desire to downplay Covid for the election so it could suggest wrong doing. I don’t think it’s a huge leap either, but the article never said it was a smoking gun. If the reporting changed for good several weeks before the election and stayed that way it would be more of a reach but changing it and then changing back right after the election smells bad. If the possible allegation is true it is astonishing so not a reach to call it that either.
oceanbreeze77
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BIG YIKES. BIG. BIG. BIG. YIKES.
www.politico.com
‘We want them infected’: Trump appointee demanded ‘herd immunity’ strategy, emails reveal
Then-HHS science adviser Paul Alexander called for millions of Americans to be infected as means of fighting Covid-19.
www.politico.com
"Disney Cruise Line quietly removed all March 2021 sailings from their online booking page just before midnight. The removal of sailings from further booking comes just over a week since February sailings were canceled and a couple months after the CDC allowed the No Sail Order to expire and issued framework for the conditional sailing of cruise ships within the jurisdiction of the United States.
There has yet to be an industry wide suspension of sailings through March 2021 which would potentially extend the shutdown a full year. However, the removal of sailings from online booking has been a precursor to previously cancellation announcements."
disneycruiselineblog.com
There has yet to be an industry wide suspension of sailings through March 2021 which would potentially extend the shutdown a full year. However, the removal of sailings from online booking has been a precursor to previously cancellation announcements."
March 2021 Sailings Removed From Disney Cruise Line’s Website • The Disney Cruise Line Blog
Disney Cruise Line quietly removed all March 2021 sailings from their online booking page just before midnight. The removal of sailings from further
disneycruiselineblog.com
Who’s surprised? Anyone? Anyone? Bueller?BIG YIKES. BIG. BIG. BIG. YIKES.
‘We want them infected’: Trump appointee demanded ‘herd immunity’ strategy, emails reveal
Then-HHS science adviser Paul Alexander called for millions of Americans to be infected as means of fighting Covid-19.
DisneyDebRob
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It’s pretty bad when you read something like this and sort of say to yourself.. sounds like something they would do. When did the surprise of this stuff disappear into , “oh well, knew he or they would do that”.BIG YIKES. BIG. BIG. BIG. YIKES.
‘We want them infected’: Trump appointee demanded ‘herd immunity’ strategy, emails reveal
Then-HHS science adviser Paul Alexander called for millions of Americans to be infected as means of fighting Covid-19.
DisneyDebRob
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There were people here saying the sailings would start by up by September of this year. Still think it will be pushed out even further."Disney Cruise Line quietly removed all March 2021 sailings from their online booking page just before midnight. The removal of sailings from further booking comes just over a week since February sailings were canceled and a couple months after the CDC allowed the No Sail Order to expire and issued framework for the conditional sailing of cruise ships within the jurisdiction of the United States.
There has yet to be an industry wide suspension of sailings through March 2021 which would potentially extend the shutdown a full year. However, the removal of sailings from online booking has been a precursor to previously cancellation announcements."
March 2021 Sailings Removed From Disney Cruise Line’s Website • The Disney Cruise Line Blog
Disney Cruise Line quietly removed all March 2021 sailings from their online booking page just before midnight. The removal of sailings from further
_caleb
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You spelled "Hey, everyone, I’m sorry for that condescending post!" wrong.
The South Florida Sun Sentinel article does use the words you complain about, but not in the way you seem to think. I'm surprised your superior reading comprehension skills didn't pick up on the fact that after using the word, "astonishing," the articles goes on to explain who it was that found the pattern to be astonishing (hint: it was University of South Florida professor Jason Salemi, who analyzed the data and was "surprised" by it, and Scott David Herr, a Florida computer scientist who tracks the daily COVID-19 data and was "perplexed") and what was astonishing about it.
Suggests is precisely the right word to describe the relationship between data when the connection is closer to causation than correlation. As a trained scientist, I'm sure you're aware of that.
Likewise, what's a better word than manipulating to describe what Florida did with the data? The State changed the numbers without notifying the public. Yet to maintain journalistic neutrality, the sentence you cite: "Thus the state’s intent in manipulating the data remains unclear" literally refuses to assign motive to what they report the State had done.
Those who consistently complain about "the media" frequently fail to read the actual reporting but when they do, they read assuming some agenda. And then they turn to outlets that don't even attempt to demonstrate any journalistic integrity and trust them completely.
Please stop dismissing anything that doesn't fit your narrative, and please give those of us who've suffered your opinions for the last 2,400 pages a bit of respect. If you're not going to engage in good faith and just a little bit of humility, I would prefer you didn't engage at all.
oceanbreeze77
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"Thats your opinion"
I think communicating factual news and information is the biggest challenge we face as a connected culture. There has to be some way of vetting the truth, no matter what the source is. I am picky about my news sources. While I recognize there is bias to some mainstream media reporting, there is still a certain level of professionalism obvious in the 'in-depth' (read: NOT 'breaking news') coverage from legacy news sources such as newsrooms at the big 3 broadcast networks, PBS / BBC / NPR, and select print outlets that have been able to remain journalistically independent like the Tampa Bay Times. I wouldn't say fact-based reporting is rare these days so much as that it is not as easily accessible as it might once have been.. and it certainly doesn't fit in a tweet, so it gets ignored more often then it should now.
How am I supposed to vet internet sources? Do I take the top 5 trending tweets and average them? How do I know who is funding the information stream and lending bias to it when it's a facebook post? Do I just trust my own echo chamber and ignore the opposing side? Should I just invent my own truth and publish it and make millions? My apple news feed is even guilty of biasing the content it gives me based on the headlines I click on.. I regularly have to reign it in and tell it to show me a wider view so I can see multiple takes on the same 'truth', and train it not to veer me into right or leftward bias. I'm sure most people just let it swerve them into whatever lane they are most comfortable in, bias and all, and the feedback loop continues.
The historical art of true 'journalism' might not be perfect, but from my perspective it's the only tool we've got right now to find any real truth.
Disstevefan1
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I stand corrected. The motorcycle accident was indeed counted as a COVID related death, see link but then was later corrected. I wonder how many cases were not corrected....
GoofGoof
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304,840?
A follow up question is how many Covid deaths (especially in Feb/March) were not counted as Covid? It is well documented that people dying in the beginning in areas without known community spread were not even tested for Covid if they didn’t travel to China or have direct contact with people who did. Who knows how many deaths never got counted.
lazyboy97o
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Not hundreds of thousands. Maybe you could tell us how Canadian doctors are lying about cause of death to get US Medicare funds.
danlb_2000
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Probably not enough to make the current state not so bad. Even if 25% of the deaths were incorrectly reported the numbers would still be pretty bad.
danlb_2000
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Unfortunately there are very few people who watch a new show that was just the facts. It's sad to say, but most news today is entertainment, and bad news is much more "entertaining" then good news.
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