Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

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_caleb

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It is articles written like this that show clear bias in the media. I don't know one way or another if anything strategic or nefarious was done but the article doesn't stick to reporting facts or even report sources to back up any intent of this "gap."

The opening paragraph is purely sensational and speculative:

"An astonishing pattern has emerged in Florida’s COVID-19 death tally — one that suggests the state manipulated a backlog of unrecorded fatalities, presenting more favorable death counts in the days leading up to the 2020 presidential election."

Using words like "astonishing" injects the reporter's opinion at the very beginning of the article. Then using the word "suggests" shows that the entire article is a speculation. Later on, the article even says, "Thus the state’s intent in manipulating the data remains unclear." Even here, using the word "manipulating" is meant to suggest something nefarious.
Just out of curiosity, how many people commenting about "media" in this thread have any advanced journalistic education? I do. Show of hands please and taking a journalism class in college doesn't count. I mean people for whom journalism was an integral part of their education.
 

Sirwalterraleigh

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Just out of curiosity, how many people commenting about "media" in this thread have any advanced journalistic education? I do. Show of hands please and taking a journalism class in college doesn't count. I mean people for whom journalism was an integral part of their education.

Well I know who DOESN’T have one. (Besides me)

Hint: it shows when one blames the coverage because they don’t like the events...which can be seen with the naked eye most of the time with little room to argue.
 
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DisneyCane

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Just out of curiosity, how many people commenting about "media" in this thread have any advanced journalistic education? I do. Show of hands please and taking a journalism class in college doesn't count. I mean people for whom journalism was an integral part of their education.
Reading comprehension and recognizing bias doesn't require a journalism degree. Scientific education is required (with few exceptions for true geniuses) to understand advanced mathematical and scientific concepts.
 

Sirwalterraleigh

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Reading comprehension and recognizing bias doesn't require a journalism degree. Scientific education is required (with few exceptions for true geniuses) to understand advanced mathematical and scientific concepts.

There are some very easy litmus tests to check if one’s understanding is grounded...despite personal opinions/priorities.

Like Home Depot, Isle 12 easy. We’re just gonna spin on this. Best to get back to whatever “covid sucks” topic this thread is actually supposed to be about and move on.
 

GoofGoof

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It is articles written like this that show clear bias in the media. I don't know one way or another if anything strategic or nefarious was done but the article doesn't stick to reporting facts or even report sources to back up any intent of this "gap."

The opening paragraph is purely sensational and speculative:

"An astonishing pattern has emerged in Florida’s COVID-19 death tally — one that suggests the state manipulated a backlog of unrecorded fatalities, presenting more favorable death counts in the days leading up to the 2020 presidential election."

Using words like "astonishing" injects the reporter's opinion at the very beginning of the article. Then using the word "suggests" shows that the entire article is a speculation. Later on, the article even says, "Thus the state’s intent in manipulating the data remains unclear." Even here, using the word "manipulating" is meant to suggest something nefarious.

The article doesn't even include the total backlogged deaths added upon resumption of posting them. The 7 day rolling average of the daily cases reached its lowest point of the post-summer dip on 10/4. Isn't it an expected result that the 7 day rolling average of actual deaths would happen around 11/6 when it did?

The cases were increasing significantly in this pre-election time period. Wouldn't it have been a good idea to suppress the cases also by limiting testing or something? I would think an extra 2,000 cases a day would lead to a more negative perception than reporting 40 deaths instead of 70.

If the goal of this grand scheme was to influence the election, why wait to start doing it until after early voting and "absentee" voting were already well underway?
Fake news!!!!!

35 more days to use that phrase :)
 

Miss Bella

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Anybody who thinks there is any place where there are other people and it is impossible to be infected is deluded.

I picked Birx because I remembered her speaking about it. I'm sure if I dug around I could find Fauci saying something similar.

As for the "raid," have you watched the full length body cam video? Not exactly reminiscent of an action movie. https://www.tallahassee.com/story/n...s-raid-florida-fdle-bodycam-video/3885998001/
It was said that you were just as likely to be infected at Wal Mart as at WDW. I don't recall anyone every saying you couldn't get infected at WDW. I wouldn't consider either of those places high risk.
 

Sirwalterraleigh

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It was said that you were just as likely to be infected at Wal Mart as at WDW. I don't recall anyone every saying you couldn't get infected at WDW. I wouldn't consider either of those places high risk.

Well now that you put it that way...stay the hell out of Walmart (always the best idea anyway)

All places are “high risk” now due to the lack of proper precautions in a very large segment of the population. It’s not a Disney thing...but it’s also not a “not Disney” thing.

It is what it is.

(I’ve gone cross eyed)

I think that phase is going to be around forever.

So will the ridiculous nature of it being used in the first place.
 

Miss Bella

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Well now that you put it that way...stay the hell out of Walmart (always the best idea anyway)

All places are “high risk” now due to the lack of proper precautions in a very large segment of the population. It’s not a Disney thing...but it’s also not a “not Disney” thing.

It is what it is.

(I’ve gone cross eyed)



So will the ridiculous nature of it being used in the first place.
There will always be a certain segment of the population that believes everything main stream media tells them. In my opinion that is more frightening than anything.
 

MisterPenguin

President of Animal Kingdom
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Why are people engaging with the person who says there are motorcycle accident COVID death certificates?

They've proven that they cannot discuss this in good faith.

The only response to that person should be, "Well, yeah, but you think there are motorcycle accident COVID death certificates."
 

Miss Bella

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Most News media is incompetent at best. Any time a story comes up about something I know well, the errors tend to be large or things missed. This is no different (especially in interpreting numbers).
Most news is opinion. Even if the facts are correct they are going to present it in a to sway you. I rarely watch any cable news. Thank God for the internet and multiple news sources.
 

Sirwalterraleigh

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Why are people engaging with the person who says there are motorcycle accident COVID death certificates?

They've proven that they cannot discuss this in good faith.

The only response to that person should be, "Well, yeah, but you think there are motorcycle accident COVID death certificates."

My guess is “clinical insanity”...but what do I know?
 

Sirwalterraleigh

Premium Member
Most news is opinion. Even if the facts are correct they are going to present it in a to sway you. I rarely watch any cable news. Thank God for the internet and multiple news sources.

So hard core Loser Candidate then?

I don’t like to label anyone that. I just want the scourge to be gone. You just labeled yourself.

And now there’s nothing to say.
 

Kevin_W

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100% spot on, especially regarding guaranteed student loans.

I can't get over how some employers (especially in education) are requiring more advanced degrees from their teachers, but the increase in salary isn't proportional to the amount the teachers have to spend to get those degrees/certifications/endorsements. Same with Physical and Occupational Therapy, and I'm sure many other fields. *sigh*

My wife is a PT and there is no way I would recommend someone go into that field these days. she went when it was 2 yrs undergrad + 2 yrs PT school. Now it's 4+4. So 8 years for a somewhat physically demanding job that earns less than an electrician.
 
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